League of Legends hits 5 million peak concurrent players.
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LiquidMetal14
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I think we all know it doesn't need to with the ecosystem Valve has in place. I tried it with friends and couldn't get into it.
What's wrong with the word?
Eh, on an individual basis I don't see the point. Your teammates aren't consistent and the number's going to wobble incessantly as a result. Having the fudgier MMR active but unseen makes the most sense to me, given the team MM rating is the more accurate by far.
Baleoce
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Should be doable on the gamepad. They won't do it though. Nintendo likes to be the ones to come up with the ideas I guess.
zerokoolpsx
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Those numbers are crazy. More than the total numbers of steam users currently signed on right now. No way Dota 2 is going to match that.
This is Riot.
This is Riot.
Wolf Akela
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Are Garena numbers included there? It covers a lot of Asian regions but theyre pretty separate from the rest.
GregLombardi
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Yup. That's because it is.
But if don't have this preference and are more lighthearted about the genre, LOL is a fantastic game.
I do not see how moba on consoles is feasible. You need to clear a lot of barriers to get this genre work, it's not just pertaining to the M/KB controls.
For once, professional teams have already settled down in both LoL and Dota 2. If you look at Asia, the home team of Taiwan, China & Korea in LoL are some of the best teams in the world and this actually has great influential power to the normal/casual players in the game. It's kind of a bringing glory to their nation thing. Same thing with Dota 2, except only it's only the chinese team and they have been very dominant in the scene. When you look at the West, some of the most popular teams hit hundred of thousands in subscribers in youtube. TSM for LoL, Navi for Dota 2. In fact, for most of the LoL professional players in the West, they drew a healthy number for streaming revenue, some of the more popular ones hitting 30k+ or so. This is actually important because it's very hard for any professional teams to survive based on just tournament earnings.
Then you look at the amount Riot and Valve put into their own tournaments and circuit, nothing shy of millions and millions of dollar poured into it annually. Balance is also a key, both Icefrog and Riot consult professional teams for their inputs although they have the last say in everything. Icefrog worshipping status easily rivals Gabe. He's a mini celebrity in China with his own chinese equivalent twitter account with around 600k followers. In fact, at the very worst, it's a Chris Brown and Rihanna relationship.
For once, professional teams have already settled down in both LoL and Dota 2. If you look at Asia, the home team of Taiwan, China & Korea in LoL are some of the best teams in the world and this actually has great influential power to the normal/casual players in the game. It's kind of a bringing glory to their nation thing. Same thing with Dota 2, except only it's only the chinese team and they have been very dominant in the scene. When you look at the West, some of the most popular teams hit hundred of thousands in subscribers in youtube. TSM for LoL, Navi for Dota 2. In fact, for most of the LoL professional players in the West, they drew a healthy number for streaming revenue, some of the more popular ones hitting 30k+ or so. This is actually important because it's very hard for any professional teams to survive based on just tournament earnings.
Then you look at the amount Riot and Valve put into their own tournaments and circuit, nothing shy of millions and millions of dollar poured into it annually. Balance is also a key, both Icefrog and Riot consult professional teams for their inputs although they have the last say in everything. Icefrog worshipping status easily rivals Gabe. He's a mini celebrity in China with his own chinese equivalent twitter account with around 600k followers. In fact, at the very worst, it's a Chris Brown and Rihanna relationship.
Dreams-Visions
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and it doesn't have to.
lazorexplosion
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Pretty much the perfect balance of accessibility, learning curve and high skill cap with fun mechanics, plenty of variety and continual development to provide endless hours of gameplay.
And to counter the fact that DoTA fans seem incapable of not being haters whenever LoL comes up, DoTA 2 is just horribly clunky and pointlessly obtuse in comparison. Didn't want to make it a pissing contest, but there it is.
And to counter the fact that DoTA fans seem incapable of not being haters whenever LoL comes up, DoTA 2 is just horribly clunky and pointlessly obtuse in comparison. Didn't want to make it a pissing contest, but there it is.
"They bought Warcraft 3 for this and they will buy Starcraft 2 for this! We will make tons of money and we don't even have to lift a finger! HAHAHAHA!"
/masterplan
BasilZero
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OMG +1 to this *_*!
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What's the highest concurrent peak on consoles?
Technosteve
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That's a lot of salty assholes playing at the same time, dota 2 will catch up to that tho.
Chittagong
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So which one should I play? DOTA 2 looks better and is on Steam, but has no onboarding, tutorials etc. LoL is more popular and I could play it also on my MacBook when travelling... Hmmm.
Didn't want to make it a pissing contest.
Makes it a pissing contest.
Brilliant.
Also, the Dota community generally dislikes Riot because of their wheelings and dealings (re: trash talking Dota on their forums, tournament exclusivity contracts, attempted team exclusivity, and so forth)
Sentenza
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I would guess: nowhere near to LoL.
There were a lot of headlines on gaming sites some time ago about CoD having 3 million concurrent users, but then it turned out that it wasn't true and those were actually unique daily accesses to the servers.
I don't think so. I like Dota 2 a lot more and that partly has to do with I started out in the early years back when I'm in highschool with friends. Transition to another game in this genre has this burden of knowledge barrier, I really doubt Dota 2 being released will pry LoL players away.
Dota 2 doesn't have to overtake LoL. Both of these games can thrive side by side, I'm not so sure if HoN or Blizzard All-Star can expand the audience and make it viable for No.3 though.
What is onboarding? Dota is beginning to introduce tutorials (the first is already in, second should be coming shortly) and has in-game guides for heroes which are quite helpful. You can also check all these guides in with the steam overlay.
You could always try both. It is easier to grasp the basics for LoL, and once you have them down you could have an easier time to understand Dota, since most of the basic mechanics are the same.
edit: This is good advice.
I don't get the paywall complaints.
Didn't play it for THAT long, but couldn't you get any character you wanted just by playing the game once a day or something and then buy it with the points you earn that way? It would take something like a month for a character, but I thought that was an option?
I actually think a system like that helps a game more than anything else really. It's somewhat fun to play(I liked it), but always earning something every match, even small, gives you some sense of progression, which I think leads to things like this many people playing it at once.
At any rate, good on them.
Didn't play it for THAT long, but couldn't you get any character you wanted just by playing the game once a day or something and then buy it with the points you earn that way? It would take something like a month for a character, but I thought that was an option?
I actually think a system like that helps a game more than anything else really. It's somewhat fun to play(I liked it), but always earning something every match, even small, gives you some sense of progression, which I think leads to things like this many people playing it at once.
At any rate, good on them.
if you have friends that play, pick the one theyre playing
Dreams-Visions
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I think about 1,000 hours, iirc. Something like that.
Not a problem if you're having fun, but definitely not fast.
Nah fuck that. Play the one you want to play. Pretty easy to make friends along the way.
Pendragon.
Shorty11857
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The fact that S2 has moved to a new office and doubled in size over the last year probably means even being third is pretty viable (100k peak)
Chittagong
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Whoa. I had no idea they actually implemented an ingame tutorial. Will try. Or maybe I will wait for the second tutorial. Oh, the choice.
Good idea. I have played Dota 2 for 2 games or so with a patient gaffer telling me what to do, so maybe LoL will give me perspective.
1000 hours for all the content in the game might be a tad bit on the low side, but should be in the right ballpark. Note that you might not be interested in all the champions, depending on what you prefer to play.
This guy works at Riot? What a douche :lol
ScepticMatt
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So in relative terms, Dota 2 is growing much faster per month (20-25%) than LoL (5-7%). It would still take them years to outdo LoL though, and they don't have to anyway.
There have been a few cases of Riot workers insulting players, sometimes see them posted on the official forums.
Sentenza
Member
While it's very likely that they could never achieve it, I think we need a DOTA 2 public release before starting any comparison in terms of stats, growth, etc.
And NO, "those keys are very easy to find" still doesn't count as a public release.
Most of the potential user base will never bother looking for a beta key; they will recognize this game's existence when it will be available for download on the Steam store's front page.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
The biggest x-factor in the Dota 2/LoL thing is the Asian countries where Dota 2 hasn't been released yet. I'm guessing at least half of LoLs audience is Korean
Oh absolutely. And I still love their current franchises (still play WoW, enjoyed Diablo III, love Starcraft II) but it's a little surprising to me in hindsight that they didn't try to jump in with a MOBA years ago.
Wolf Akela
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The ban thing has already been explained. Pendragon banned the guy for doing a lot of random/trollpicks in ranked matches. Teammates hate it so it eventually added up. He just accelerated his case because he did it in Pendragon's presence.
Probably half of the Pendragon hate comes from trolls who got banned. Not saying hes a nice guy, but hes generally fair
Negative Riot posts are in fact very rare. I actually cant think of a recent example.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Pendragon is a complete ass and only got the job because he sabotaged the worlds biggest Dota forum for them
is it racism?
Correct me if I'm wrong because I cannot find the official source for this. Didn't Blizzard rejects Icefrog when he went to them at first? Blizzard blew it, they were his first choice. Anyway, blessing in disguise in the end. As an old-timer, I am very satisfied with the current Dota 2/Valve.
Seems good.
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