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[Guess Who]

This might be a very dumb question, but how was Comstock sterilized exactly?

Exposure to the Luteces' tear machine tech.

 

[MotionBlue]

This might be a very dumb question, but how was Comstock sterilized exactly?

Exposure to Lutece's machine, when they were first working with tears. Large amounts of radiation were involved, and the induced cancer was why the "Handyman" enemies exist.

 

[DatDude]

This might be a very dumb question, but how was Comstock sterilized exactly?

Apparently due to the time traveling from what I understand.

 

[LiK]

This might be a very dumb question, but how was Comstock sterilized exactly?

I think one of the Voxophones from Lucete explained it but I forget the specifics.

Edit: ah, thanks duders

 

[disappeared]

made a thread to debate the point noffles raised: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=530991

I brought this up pages ago, but hey, nobody ever pays to attention to my shit.

 

[Voice of Reason]

Exposure to Lutece's machine, when they were first working with tears. Large amounts of radiation were involved, and the induced cancer was why the "Handyman" enemies exist.

Ah, I see.

 

[LiK]

I wonder if the Lucetes "did" it. Sorry, was wondering lol

 

[oktarb]

Exposure to Lutece's machine, when they were first working with tears. Large amounts of radiation were involved, and the induced cancer was why the "Handyman" enemies exist.

They also say Comstock got tumors and withered away in one reality.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Would that be incest or masterubation

 

[Minus_Me]

Exposure to Lutece's machine, when they were first working with tears. Large amounts of radiation were involved, and the induced cancer was why the "Handyman" enemies exist.

Didn't even notice this.

 

[LordCanti]

I wonder if the Lucetes "did" it. Sorry, was wondering lol

He gave her tails the heads.

No, that pun won't do. Not at all.

Would that be incest or masterubation

Why would it be masturbation? Did I miss them being the same person?

 

[Tanolen]

I guess the return of the jedi movie tear makes alot of sense, with booker/comstock being her father. Although they should have used the empire strikes back instead.

 

[Salsa]

Maybe "It is finished" references to the loop being finished. Maybe the Prophet foresaw all of this.

not sure about that. I think even the game being called Bioshock Infinite implies that it just goes round and round

 

[LiK]

Would that be incest or masterubation

Gotta be the latter....

 

[Horse Detective]

Would that be incest or masterubation

Probably masturbation.

 

[Mutanthands]

Exposure to Lutece's machine, when they were first working with tears. Large amounts of radiation were involved, and the induced cancer was why the "Handyman" enemies exist.

So Comstock's cancer was probably caused by the tears as well.

 

[Voice of Reason]

not sure about that. I think even the game being called Bioshock Infinite implies that it just keeps happening

Eh, kind of a false equivalence there. Infinite might just refer to the infinite possibilities of Bookers and Comstocks out there doing their own thing.

 

[MotionBlue]

Didn't even notice this.

Pretty much all the workers in Elizabeth's tower died or suffered from cancer, thanks to the siphon. Widows could opt to have what remained of their husbands to be turned into Handymen.

Only one female scientist(or hell, in general) held any station of considerable power; Lutece.

 

[Arozay]

He gave her tail the heads.

No, that pun won't do. Not at all.

Opened her tear.

 

[LiK]

Eh, kind of a false equivalence there. Infinite might just refer to the infinite possibilities of Bookers and Comstocks out there doing their own thing.

Interesting thing about the Wiki AND Wikia is that they both say they basically ended the loop by killing the source which was the baptism. And both sites say Booker ended up with Anna in the timeline where he didn't sell her in the epilogue. I'll take that.

 

[Salsa]

that pinky is way too big for a baby

 

[Voice of Reason]

Interesting thing about the Wiki AND Wikia is that they both say they basically ended the loop by killing the source which was the baptism. And both sites say Booker ended up with Anna in the timeline where he didn't sell her in the epilogue. I'll take that.

Yeah, I don't understand why people think the final scene in the end to might be ambiguous now that I think of it. They show a crib, and noises from the crib, implying Anna is there. I guess not explicitly showing her may be enough to question it.

 

[Mutanthands]

So, if Rapture and Columbia are variations on theme, does that mean that the System Shock is a further variation on a theme, thus make Bioshock and Infinite official sequels?

Rather that "spiritual" sequels.

 

[LordCanti]

I await the "Kill Lutece" DLC. Thinking about it, I'm kind of amazed that Elizabeth didn't go back and kill them instead of Booker. Did she ever actually see them? I'm trying to remember, but I can't.

 

[LiK]

Yeah, I don't understand why people think the final scene in the end to might be ambiguous now that I think of it. They show a crib, and noises from the crib, implying Anna is there. I guess not explicitly showing her may be enough to question it.

Yea, I prefer to think Levine would end on a final positive note even with all the batshit insane stuff before it. I don't remember a baby noise but I assume she's there. Booker retained all his memories so I assume he's a better man from this journey.

 

[disappeared]

Yeah, I don't understand why people think the final scene in the end to might be ambiguous now that I think of it. They show a crib, and noises from the crib, implying Anna is there. I guess not explicitly showing her may be enough to question it.

I don't remember hearing a baby in that last scene. Was listening pretty closely. Not saying she wasn't in her crib though.

 

[DatDude]

I don't remember hearing a baby in that last scene. Was listening pretty closely. Not saying she wasn't in her crib though.

I heard noises to though.

Hmm, gotta go rewatch the ending on youtube.

 

[Voice of Reason]

I don't remember hearing a baby in that last scene. Was listening pretty closely. Not saying she wasn't in her crib though.

You can hear music, iirc.

 

[Vire]

Yeah, I don't understand why people think the final scene in the end to might be ambiguous now that I think of it. They show a crib, and noises from the crib, implying Anna is there. I guess not explicitly showing her may be enough to question it.

Did she cry? I don't remember that.

I might be mistaken. If someone could link it again that would be great.

 

[disappeared]

You can hear music, iirc.

Hmm.

Doesn't really confirm or deny her being there.

I honestly think it's meant to be ambiguous.

 

[Sblargh]

Good luck with your happy ending raising a daughter without a job, welfare and a big gamble debt that has no way to settle now other than selling your house and accepting to live as a beggar, always remembering that you could have been the prophet king of a city in the sky.

 

[disappeared]

Good luck with your happy ending raising a daughter without a job, welfare and a big gamble debt that has no way to settle now other than selling your house and accepting to live as a beggar, always remembering that you could have been the prophet king of a city in the sky.

But he is a king.

And isn't.

 

[Mutanthands]

Good luck with your happy ending raising a daughter without a job, welfare and a big gamble debt that has no way to settle now other than selling your house and accepting to live as a beggar, always remembering that you could have been the prophet king of a city in the sky.

Better that than being a genocidal white supremacist, and torturing your daughter into carrying out your will.

 

[Voice of Reason]

Good luck with your happy ending raising a daughter without a job, welfare and a big gamble debt that has no way to settle now other than selling your house and accepting to live as a beggar, always remembering that you could have been the prophet king of a city in the sky.

I'd take that over eternal repetition of my life's mistakes.

 

[DatDude]

I just thought of Andrew Ryan line in Bioshock and just realized how well it fit thematically with Infinite.

Andrew Ryan: "We all makes choices. But in the end, our choices make us."

 

[LiK]

Good luck with your happy ending raising a daughter without a job, welfare and a big gamble debt that has no way to settle now other than selling your house and accepting to live as a beggar, always remembering that you could have been the prophet king of a city in the sky.

He knows all the lottery numbers from the future.

 

[disappeared]

I'd take that over eternal repetition of my life's mistakes.

To some degree, most of us do that on a daily basis.

 

[Voice of Reason]

To some degree, most of us do that on a daily basis.

 

[Kurdel]

Wait, when did Comstock travel back in time?

Because, there was a Voxthing in the Lincoln museum, talking about how the emancipaion proclamation motivated the foundation of the new Eden, and that was 10 years before Bookers birth.

 

[gdt]

Heh, just realized that super cool horse scene never made it in. Man, imagine what got cut from this game.

 

[disappeared]

Heh, just realized that super cool horse scene never made it in. Man, imagine what got cut from this game.

Man I was keeping an eye out for that scene the whole fuckin game. It was so powerful.

 

[Mesoian]

That's a nice phone.

Man, that moment when you're transported to Rapture at the end of the game. I bounced around a bit.

So the Luctuce's are basically just the mad hatters right? Super intelligent people driven mad by being killed within their machine and supposedly being stretched so thin between the timelines that all they can do is watch and wait and log results? They're pretty interesting as well when you go back and think about the choices that are made and the results you get to see as a player. Their madness ads to the infinite loop suggestion that the ending can give.

 

[LiK]

Horse scene? I was in media blackout after reveal trailer so I know nothing.

 

[Bucca]

Wait, when did Comstock travel back in time?

Because, there was a Voxthing in the Lincoln museum, talking about how the emancipaion proclamation motivated the foundation of the new Eden, and that was 10 years before Bookers birth.

Just cause an event was before your birth doesn't mean you can't learn about it and that it won't have effects on how you may view certain things.

 

[chogidogs]

I just finished; consider me mindfucked. I liked the Rapture cameo and maybe it's just me, but I liked the idea of Rapture in the context of her being kind of...mmm...outside the mortal coil? It's like she died and got "raptured". I usually hate time travel/universe travel due to the plot holes that it inevitably causes, but I liked the way it was used here.

Rapture was just another dimension just like any other place. Fink implied that that's where they got the ideas for the Songbird/Handyman and the vigors.

 

[DatDude]

Heh, just realized that super cool horse scene never made it in. Man, imagine what got cut from this game.

A whole level got cut as well in the last minutes (according to a levine interview)..apperantly it was to much filler for his taste, and didn't serve the narrative to well.

I tend not to question what got cut, and what didn't. Ideally I would like to have it all, but does it serve the game is the better question.

I'm sure Levine had a reason for everything he didn't want in,.

 

[Toki767]

I forgot all about that horse scene from the trailer...the game was quite captivating from beginning to end though. I notice they also didn't use the scene where Elizabeth gets nabbed in daylight on the tower.

 

[ThreePiMatt]

Heh, just realized that super cool horse scene never made it in. Man, imagine what got cut from this game.

The TV commercial that still plays has a scene where Elizabeth is hanging by a noose, which is pretty much the opposite of what could happen in the game as its made clear that Elizabeth is not to be harmed.

 

[disappeared]

A whole level got cut as well in the last minutes (according to a levine interview)..apperantly it was to much filler for his taste, and didn't serve the narrative to well.

I tend not to question what got cut, and what didn't. Ideally I would like to have it all, but does it serve the game is the better question.

I'm sure Levine had a reason for everything he didn't want in,.

The game's pacing is pitch-perfect. Aside from maybe the ghost-busting section towards the end, I never felt like the game was dragging at all.

The TV commercial that still plays has a scene where Elizabeth is hanging by a noose

WHAT.

 

[papercamm]

Horse scene? I was in media blackout after reveal trailer so I know nothing.

I never found it in the game. Didnt see Revenge of the Jedi either.

So let me see if I've got this right: Comstock is Dewitt that went to Columbia, but then chose to go back in time to become baptized and used foreknowledge to become wealthy enough to create Columbia. What exactly was his reason for that? Was it all for Elizabeth/Anna?

And since the series of events in Columbia were looping because of Comstock's choice what was it about this cycle that got Dewitt (the one we play as) to break the cycle by drowning himself?