ElRenoRaven
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Yup he's delusional. They've been catering to the hardcore competitive side more then the casuals he says.
So full of shit.
So full of shit.
GDC: Halo 4 Post Mortem starts right now.
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ChimpBottle
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dragonelite
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ElRenoRaven
Member
Really says a lot when the session is empty as hell. Nobody even wants to bother attending a session about the game.
ii Stryker
Banned
Didact and his motives weren't explored enough in the game and the story was paced way too fast especially after playing Bioshock. I felt way too rushed throughout the entire game and it didn't allow me to absorb what I'd just learned and a lot was given to me without context.
the Prometheans are dull and boring to fight they made the flood seem interesting
The Promethean weapons are uninspired but after listening to Josh talk in the GDC postmortem they tried other mechanics but the players were too dimwitted to use them so they abandoned trying something new and just made variations on the already existing archetypes.
I think 343i needs to ween off of the Covenant stuff entirely in order to allow for better creativity. I think Halo as a whole needs to move on from the Covenant, that chapter is closed and those design tropes are holding the creativity back.
the Prometheans are dull and boring to fight they made the flood seem interesting
The Promethean weapons are uninspired but after listening to Josh talk in the GDC postmortem they tried other mechanics but the players were too dimwitted to use them so they abandoned trying something new and just made variations on the already existing archetypes.
I think 343i needs to ween off of the Covenant stuff entirely in order to allow for better creativity. I think Halo as a whole needs to move on from the Covenant, that chapter is closed and those design tropes are holding the creativity back.
Dudebros are totally the Hardcore audience, dudebro.
dragonelite
Member
I believe one guy was playing angry birds.
good post.
Good questions at the Panel, 343 can't really think they did well for the competive community?
ElRenoRaven
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God some of these questions are cringe worthy. These are actually giving convention general public questions look good.
I NEED SCISSORS
Banned
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But... they already had the ten million+ sales. Why did they feel the need to try to make the game more accessible to broaden the game's appeal to get more?
Don't fix what ain't broken etc.
â Narayan
Member
:/
Goodbye, Halo.
Better than most of the PAX questions
Chasing them CoD Sales.
Clarification: The whole multiplayer portion feels wrong. A mere 2 days after the game came out, I posted this;
dancrane212
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Terrible that nobody wanted new (more crazy) weapons, having Promethean weapons just be cool looking but traditional in function was disappointing.
dark_prinny
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dragonelite
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The game would have sold that much anyway with the marketing and the name halo alone.
-COOLIO-
The Everyman
Its a reasonable argument many times, sometimes a game isn't a good as the old ones, as was the case in halo 4's story and DmC....everything.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Wait fans wanted the progression system? What fucking fans were they talking to?
SkyTurnsRed
Banned
I am certain that people here were going nuts over this game and loving the shit out of it when it was released. Did I miss the memo that it was time to hate it?
Not enough :lols for when he said this.
PhoenixDawn
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Fans wanted a progression system? Where did they find these so called fans?
ii Stryker
Banned
ElRenoRaven
Member
That just told me everything I needed to know. They're happy with things the way they are and they don't have a clue when it comes to Halo.
Yeah, 343, which fans did you hear that they wanted gameplay impacting progression from? Because it sure isn't these people/us, I doubt anyone wanted this.
Of course we were going to try and slant things positively in the first days/weeks. Its called the denial stage. Denial that they were gonna fix anything in a patch.
Also, no. Things like the new CTF were seen in press videos and people were immediately critical.
They're about equal sales wise, no? On 360 I mean.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Damn, the hate is strong already here.
Screw the haters, Halo 4 was excellent
Agree. I think it's the best singleplayer in the franchise, personally.
A lot of angry folks, but I'm not into MP, so none of the MP stuff registers to me. I only get Halo titles for the campaign and story.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Cool, so I don't have to rethink my decision to move to PC and PS4.
I actually like Halo 4, but that's mostly because I generally play SWAT over the other modes. It's a buzzkill that it looks like the franchise is going to be made more casual-driven, because from the sounds of it, they're saying the reasons I love Halo are the problem. I'm already on the fence between jumping on board NextBox in favor of picking up a PS4 first, but dumbing down Halo even more than it already has been will make my choice a lot easier.
You clearly weren't looking into the HaloGAF thread then
Lol exactly, yeeeeah nobody wanted a skill ranking system noooo, everybody wanted this piece of shit stuff.
Good job 343, outsource Halo 5 please.
Yep. As per my post above, it only took me 2 days to figure out I was done with 343's vision of Halo. Pretty sad, considering I've been a fan of the series forever and was even pretty forgiving of their missteps in the past (Halo 2's abrupt ending... all of Reach...)
I guess on the bright side there's no reason to buy a NextBox for Halo5, that's money I can put towards something that isn't coasting on brand recognition and nostalgia fumes.
Oh, those fans... Call of Duty fans.
I know I was bashing the campaign from Day 1, and my goodwill ran out very quickly in regards to the MP.
I remember many others not being satisfied with SP, and the progression system from the start also, the story got a lot of hate.
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Holy shit.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Actually from the beginning many hated the game. In fact I'd say it divided the community pretty badly. Half hated it with a passion and half loved it. Many long term fans moved on quickly. Some of us have lingered holding out hope.
Muffdraul
Member
Ramps.
ii Stryker
Banned
yeah I should've excluded the sales.
But looking at Halo's MP they've been handily beaten by CoD ever since CoD 4 was released and prior to Halo 4's release CoD 4 was beating Reach and all other Halo's for XBL activity.
dragonelite
Member
Good thing for 343 they didn't do a spring or summer beta for Halo 4.
I would have probably cancelled my preorder.
Halo 4 it is a good game but it isn't halo 1,2 or 3.
Aargh dont even know what to feel anger or sadness that such a big part of my gaming life died.
Im pretty sure cod craze really started with mw2.
ArchedThunder
Banned
No.
Fudgepuppy
Banned
Regarding the story, I'm pretty invested in the lore, I've read all the books, comics, movies etc etc, and yet, I felt so goddamn lost. "So is this Ur-didact or what, who, when, where, why?" was all I was thinking.
Then when you read the wikis for hours and hours to fully grasp the story, you understand it's three times as convoluted as it needs to be to convey the story of humanity, the covenant and the forerunners.
Other than that, I thought it was a great game. Not as focused as previous games though.
My biggest gripe with it though, was that it just wasn't very fulfilling coming back as MC, because no one acknowledged that you were gone for so long, or that you were "missed".
Like, I thought there would be this awesome moment meeting up with Lord Hood and the others, but nope, just "Chief, took you long enough".
Then when you read the wikis for hours and hours to fully grasp the story, you understand it's three times as convoluted as it needs to be to convey the story of humanity, the covenant and the forerunners.
Other than that, I thought it was a great game. Not as focused as previous games though.
My biggest gripe with it though, was that it just wasn't very fulfilling coming back as MC, because no one acknowledged that you were gone for so long, or that you were "missed".
Like, I thought there would be this awesome moment meeting up with Lord Hood and the others, but nope, just "Chief, took you long enough".
He did explicitly say that they prioritized making the game accessible to new players over the established fanbase.