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[Steelyuhas]

I imagine it's chugging along due to the steam sale

Nah, it was the actually installation wizard that got hung up, working now though so no worries.

So, I guess now that DOTA is out of "beta", they are rolling it out slowly. I'm #1698 on a queue, they said they'll email me when I'm allowed to play it. So YEAH

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

People waiting on this free Halo 3 are blind.

Halo 3 plays fucking awful. Shit is trash nowadays.

 

[Syphon Filter]

People waiting on this free Halo 3 are blind.

Halo 3 plays fucking awful. Shit is trash nowadays.

Not trash at all, it's awesome.

 

[Fotos]

Halo 3 plays fucking awful. Shit is trash nowadays.

Wtf.

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

Not trash at all, it's awesome.

Molasses. Netcode, aiming, playlists, FoV, lag, hitscan etc etc.

Molasses.

 

[Fotos]

Molasses. Netcode, aiming, playlists, FoV, lag, hitscan etc etc.

Molasses.

Still better than Reach/4 by miles.

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

Still better than Reach/4 by miles.

Wrong.

In 2013 Halo 3 is garbage. Amazing in its prime, but now? Fuck that noise.

 

[Tawpgun]

Tawpgun is it still your favorite playlist?

It's one BR start away from getting that title.

 

[Franklinator]

36 Chambers doesn't like Mario Galaxy. Foxtrot wins by default.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

Then

H3 > Reach and 4

Now

Reach > H3 > H4

H3 fell apart hard.

It's one BR start away from getting that title.

Sorry I cant hear you over this beer I'm drinking.

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

36 Chambers doesn't like Mario Galaxy. Foxtrot wins by default.

Hahaha I really cut you deep with that huh? Mario Galaxy was boring.

Then

H3 > Reach and 4

Now

Reach > H3 > H4

H3 fell apart hard.

This man gets it. Shit has aged terribly.

 

[Syphon Filter]

Molasses. Netcode, aiming, playlists, FoV, lag, hitscan etc etc.

Molasses.

Its slow since you are probably used to faster shooters. To me its great. fov is worse in halo 4 you know right?

 

[kittens]

Then

H3 > Reach and 4

Now

Reach > H3 > H4

H3 fell apart hard.

Gotta agree.

 

[Syphon Filter]

Then

H3 > Reach and 4

Now

Reach > H3 > H4

H3 fell apart hard.



Sorry I cant hear you over this beer I'm drinking.

H3 craps on Reach bro. Reach is ok.

 

[Booties]

H3 craps on Reach bro. Reach is ok.

Juices is a reach nerd. Leave him be.

 

[Computer]

I am happy that The Pit is coming back but why do they have to make it look so shitty. The brown gritty look is not Halo.

 

[Booshka]

Halo 3 has been bad since the Beta with Crackdown. Game was never good.

Aiming felt awful, moving felt awful, sloppy BR spread with a bad netcode, yea no thanks.

 

[Booties]

I am happy that The Pit is coming back but why do they have to make it look so shitty. The brown gritty look is not Halo.

uhhhh what? yes it is. maybe except for the skybox, but I never look up unless I'm being jetpack-ARed

 

[Syphon Filter]

Halo 3 has been bad since the Beta with Crackdown. Game was never good.

Aiming felt awful, moving felt awful, sloppy BR spread with a bad netcode, yea no thanks.

wtf no one hated halo 3 lol.

 

[Fuchsdh]

The amount of bitching some of you guys spout, you act like you were stuck in a Russian gulag for years and forced to play Halo.

 

[Fotos]

Halo 3 has been bad since the Beta with Crackdown. Game was never good.

Aiming felt awful, moving felt awful, sloppy BR spread with a bad netcode, yea no thanks.

WTF

 

[Blueblur1]

Guys please be nice to 343. They are trying hard as they can.

I think this will be good, different playlists for different folks ya know?

Yeah, they sure are...

 

[Steelyuhas]

Then

H3 > Reach and 4

Now

Reach > H3 > H4

H3 fell apart hard.

Yeah pretty much how I feel. From a design perspective, H3 is much better than Reach (or H4), but the actual online experience is pretty awful now (and never something I was a fan of. Pace was always slow, really disliked how the aiming felt in that game, movement likewise was ugly thanks to introducing that lovely inertia)

Sorry I cant hear you over this beer I'm drinking.

Told you it would work.

 

[Booshka]

wtf no one hated halo 3 lol.

Only the most unforgivable, elitist Halo assholes like myself and BigShow would shit-talk Halo 2 and Halo 3, but we do because of how much we love Halo CE.

I still enjoyed Halo 2 a ton after the patch, played like 10K games, but it's garbage compared to Halo CE. I never liked Halo 3, it didn't change much compared to Halo 2, it just played like shit and had intentionally random BR spread to marginalize a skill based utility weapon. All in an attempt to help a sandbox comprised of weapons like spikers to blossom.

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

Only the most unforgivable, elitist Halo assholes like myself and BigShow would shit-talk Halo 2 and Halo 3, but we do because of how much we love Halo CE.

I still enjoyed Halo 2 a ton after the patch, played like 10K games, but it's garbage compared to Halo CE. I never liked Halo 3, it didn't change much compared to Halo 2, it just played like shit and had intentionally random BR spread to marginalize a skill based utility weapon. All in an attempt to help a sandbox comprised of weapons like spikers to blossom.

2 isn't garbage compared to CE.

 

[Syphon Filter]

Only the most unforgivable, elitist Halo assholes like myself and BigShow would shit-talk Halo 2 and Halo 3, but we do because of how much we love Halo CE.

I still enjoyed Halo 2 a ton after the patch, played like 10K games, but it's garbage compared to Halo CE. I never liked Halo 3, it didn't change much compared to Halo 2, it just played like shit and had intentionally random BR spread to marginalize a skill based utility weapon. All in an attempt to help a sandbox comprised of weapons like spikers to blossom.

Halo 2 is better and more balanced compared to CE. Overall they aren't that much different.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

The amount of bitching some of you guys spout, you act like you were stuck in a Russian gulag for years and forced to play Halo.

Well they should just fix Halo so we wouldnt have to bitch, you know?

Not exactly that fucking hard to do anyways. Put some good playlists in, fix shitty settings and create some good maps.

 

[Steelyuhas]

Halo 2 is better and more balanced compared to CE. Overall they aren't that much different.

CE to H2 is the biggest change in the series by far.

 

[kittens]

Halo 2 is better and more balanced compared to CE. Overall they aren't that much different.

whaaaaaat

 

[J10]

The amount of bitching some of you guys spout, you act like you were stuck in a Russian gulag for years and forced to play Halo.

In perpetuity.

 

[orznge]

2 isn't garbage compared to CE.

it is but that doesn't make it not fun to play. i swear we're not judging you!

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

it is but that doesn't make it not fun to play. i swear we're not judging you!

CE is better, but 2 is the online Halo GOAT.

 

[Thug Waffle]

Halo 2 is better and more balanced compared to CE. Overall they aren't that much different.

I don't know about that, man. CE was really simple with an enormous skill cap. It gave me CounterStrike vibes, and I don't think it gets much more balanced than that. Not saying CS is perfect, though.

CE is better, but 2 is the online Halo GOAT.

Indeed. I got D's in middle school because of that game. Never did my homework.

 

[Madness]

Pitfall just has that ugly tint that's utilized like crazy in Halo 4 and games like Mass Effect 3. Halo 3 just looked simpler, cleaner, with better lines.

Though it's not a huge issue if it plays well.

I hope with the power of next gen, they utilize the color scheme of the earlier games. Brighter colors, not necessarily that realistic grime of modern shooters.

 

[Ragnarok Flames]

Pitfall just has that ugly tint that's utilized like crazy in Halo 4 and games like Mass Effect 3. Halo 3 just looked simpler, cleaner, with better lines.

Though it's not a huge issue if it plays well.

I hope with the power of next gen, they utilize the color scheme of the earlier games. Brighter colors, not necessarily that realistic grime of modern shooters.

But Halo needs to be Modern /s

 

[Karl2177]

I don't know about that, man. CE was really simple with an enormous skill cap. It gave me CounterStrike vibes, and I don't think it gets much more balanced than that. Not saying CS is perfect, though.



Indeed. I got D's in middle school because of that game. Never did my homework.

And we're all getting D's when we play Halo 4. Heyooo

 

[Booshka]

Halo 2 is better and more balanced compared to CE. Overall they aren't that much different.

If you didn't play at least 100 games of 2v2 Slayer Pro in Halo CE I could understand why you would think this. Halo CE is best played at 2v2, it works pretty well at 4v4 and 1v1, but 2v2 is where it is literally perfect.

Spawns can be predicted and controlled for your team and against the enemy team consistently in 2v2. The lethality of ALL weapons and nades coupled with map design for most of the 2-8 player size maps is perfectly balanced in 2v2. Pistol takes way more skill than any other Halo weapon ever made, all weapons outside of the Needler have a valuable and effective role. With the Power weapons, Rockets and Sniper, being true game changers when combined with Active Camo and Overshield. All power ups and power weapons are expertly placed, and they can be naded to specific locations reliably with skill and memorization.

Game progression with the constant and consistent spawning of power weapons and power ups, facilitates an overall ebb and flow of teams fighting over control of areas and items at all times and from different areas throughout the map. With the struggle for power shifting and changing relative to these items coming up, and the team's ability to control them with skilled Pistol and nade usage, as well as utilizing role weapons like the Shotgun and Plasma rifle effectively.

No other Halo game executes this meta game as well as Halo CE does, the map design and marginalization of individual skill leads to more camping and coordinated pushes in subsequent Halo's. An individual's playmaking ability is no where near what it is in Halo CE. Weapon spawning is broken in Halo 2 with the respawn of weapons being dictated by when a player drops the weapon, as opposed to the consistent timing of Halo CE. Sniping is stupid easy in Halo 2 compared to Halo CE, BR only has a skill gap with glitches, which is still far below Pistol duels in Halo CE.

On an on it goes, but I won't continue.

 

[HTupolev]

Halo 2 is better and more balanced compared to CE. Overall they aren't that much different.

In a lot of ways, CE to 2 represents the largest overall change in the entire series. Overall kill time tendencies, a lot of aspects of the vehicle system, lunge melees, frags whose fuses start on bounce... there are a ton of things quite central to Halo's gameplay that haven't changed all that much since Halo 2 came out, yet were completely different in CE. Names for things aside, CE could easily be from a different franchise.

Not to say that there haven't been some higher-level philosophy changes more recently that rival the CE-2 shift, though.

 

[Dongs Macabre]

Pitfall just has that ugly tint that's utilized like crazy in Halo 4 and games like Mass Effect 3. Halo 3 just looked simpler, cleaner, with better lines.

Though it's not a huge issue if it plays well.

I hope with the power of next gen, they utilize the color scheme of the earlier games. Brighter colors, not necessarily that realistic grime of modern shooters.

Is that an actual picture of Pitfall, or a picture of a remake on that one Forge map I forgot the name of?

 

[BigShow36]

People waiting on this free Halo 3 are blind.

Halo 3 plays fucking awful. Shit is trash nowadays.

Game was always terribad. Don't know how people who loved Halo 3 can hate on Halo 4, similar core gameplay.

Halo 2 is better and more balanced compared to CE. Overall they aren't that much different.

Just fucking awful. If I had the energy to tackle this I would, but frankly, it would be a wasted effort. Just know that you're the reason Halo is now terrible.

 

[Killmanjaro81]

i want in,new to dota.

I Second that

 

[AvalonX]

Pitfall just has that ugly tint that's utilized like crazy in Halo 4 and games like Mass Effect 3. Halo 3 just looked simpler, cleaner, with better lines.

Though it's not a huge issue if it plays well.

I hope with the power of next gen, they utilize the color scheme of the earlier games. Brighter colors, not necessarily that realistic grime of modern shooters.

These guys ever hear of accent lighting? Its like concept art 101. Just add some contrasting shadows and some real light sources. Don't just make it shit brown.

 

[Madness]

Is that an actual picture of Pitfall, or a picture of a remake on that one Forge map I forgot the name of?

Actual picture. Here's some more high quality ones. While it's accurate, I just don't like the darkness and tint added. I liked it when it was brighter and cleaner with simpler colors.

 

[Dongs Macabre]

Actual picture. Here's some more high quality ones. While it's accurate, I just don't like the darkness and tint added. I liked it when it was brighter and cleaner with simpler colors.

Oh.

Why are they making Pit look all brown again?

 

[Omni]

These guys ever hear of accent lighting? Its like concept art 101. Just add some contrasting shadows and some real light sources. Don't just make it shit brown.

It's the gritty 'modern' look. Bright colours blind the demographic that 343i are looking for, so the closer they can get a map to look like a muddy shit stain, the better it is. Same goes for campaign.

CoD player then - "Man, have you seen Halo 3? It's too colourful. So unrealistic"
CoD player now - "Wow! Have you seen The Pit in Halo 4!? It looks so awesome!"

 

[Madness]

Now obviously the Pit was very basic and rudimentary at the time, but it worked. It was crisp and simple. Clean sightlines, easy to pick out enemies, weapons, shots etc.

 

[Booshka]

It's the gritty 'modern' look. Bright colours blind the demographic that 343i are looking for, so the closer they can get a map to look like a muddy shit stain, the better it is. Same goes for campaign.

CoD player then - "Man, have you seen Halo 3? It's too colourful. So unrealistic"
CoD player now - "Wow! Have you seen The Pit in Halo 4!? It looks so awesome!"

Except CoD's brown shit runs at 60 FPS.

 

[Ghazi]

Is it just me, or am the only one who likes the lighting in those pictures. It seems softer than the harsh brightness that was in the OG Pit, I do not, however, like how it all seems to be one shade of brown or maybe the lighting looks like that because of the colors (?). I liked the Pit's original coloration.

 

[Ramirez]

Game was always terribad. Don't know how people who loved Halo 3 can hate on Halo 4, similar core gameplay.

Core gunplay, yea. They're pretty much night and day aside from that...

Though, I do suppose it's why I can play 4 and have the occasional fun match, but Reach is just dog shit I can't go back to.

 

[Omni]

Except CoD's brown shit runs at 60 FPS.

So will Halo 5!11

...

I personally would have went with an overgrown foliage-post apocalyptic look for The Pit. Think TLoU. Or at the very least made one side overgrown and green, and the other the rusted look we got now. Just to add some variety. It doesn't have to make sense - it's a game.

I really don't know why 343/CA (whoever does the maps) chooses to make the most boring environments ever. The game is set in a sci-fi universe! The possibilities are endless and yet all maps look like mud and/or boring.