PanicFreak
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I don't think so. It's one of the important features in Microsoft's mobile strategy.
SmartGlass and Kinect are untouchable.
OXM: Why splitting Xbox One's OS RAM allocation is good for developers
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I don't think so. It's one of the important features in Microsoft's mobile strategy.
SmartGlass and Kinect are untouchable.
SEGAvangelist
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I can't think of anything app related being removed that would make me say wow.
Chobel
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But have you seen Titanfall?
They truly, truly underestimated Sony. Which I don't understand how that's possible when they threw so much money at brute forcing their way to break that Playstation stranglehold on the industry. Sony stumbles once with early PS3 and they assumed it's game over and they could half-ass it? Now they're scrambling and adjusting to the onslaught they're seeing. Which again is good for the industry.
I don't think that anyone expected Sony to have learned so much from the PS3 and to have such a clear, focus, and well targeted message. I know I was certainly surprised.
Haha that would be so incredible. CBOAT is the guy in charge of trying to find the mole!
I have that's why it'd make me say wow. That game could be a system seller of Halo proportions.
RedAssedApe
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someone gonna start a new thread lol
Stillmatic
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CBOAT---my attempt at a translated edition--- said:
Not entirely sure why, but it comes off as something positive to me. I can't really think of anything big app related though.
LTTP: Can anyone kindly summarize what's going on here (hearing a lot "cancellation" etc)?
I have no qualms about MS sequestering that amount of RAM. Not because I think it should be one way or another but by now, I am acclimated to that fact.
5GB should be plenty for time being (given what we've seen at E3).
I have no qualms about MS sequestering that amount of RAM. Not because I think it should be one way or another but by now, I am acclimated to that fact.
5GB should be plenty for time being (given what we've seen at E3).
I doubt that would make anyone say "Wow!".
look at the post above you. cboat also said its not "kinect required" thats being canceled.
Sports are also the least DVR'd thing out there. People want to catch that shit live which falls in line with the XBO focus on live TV and not DVR'd TV.
Cirekiller
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Cancellations are generally getting rid of a feature so in this case I think that it may mean it will make us say "wow I can't believe they actually got rid of that." Maybe I'm just a pessimist.
You are defending quite a bit in here, so I'll leave you with this...Maybe those people who use their 360 to do other things are no not interested in playing games anymore, and they'll keep doing other things on their 360. That there is zero reason to believe they'll go out and buy a $500 XBO to just watch more Netflix/ESPN/HBO Go, or use Kinect's Snap feature to watch Tv
You can think so, but I will not because it's stupid for them to spend that much money when they already have a 360 to do most of those things.
RedAssedApe
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Maybe something they remove thats running the background to free up more ram for gaming?
It's just all about potential cancellation of an unwanted mandate?
I agree. I think he would of used a different term than wow if it was negative.
PopcornMegaphone
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My money is on the tv content like the halo show. Expensive as hell and no one seems to care.
The original thread was just about the X1's RAM split. Nothing particularly new or interesting, but then CBOAT made this post:
So now we're wondering what, if anything, MS have decided to cancel.
Manmademan
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this is what I'm thinking. no one is buying a 500 dollar system for an NFL app, and you know that's costly
MS is aware that not everyone wants to multitask apps while gaming. some sort of app reveal in september. major cancellation that will make us all say wow (unclear if it would be good for xbone or bad). confirmed not to be kinect requirements.
Not to mention that all those hot titles (INCLUDING Titanfall) will be available on 360. It ain't gonna look as good but for a casual dudebro gamer, they'll still have lots of friends playing these on 360.
jordan0386
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I am not in favor of that.
PanicFreak
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It sounds like there will be some sort of announcement associated with the cancellation. Thus, having someone on stage emphatically saying "There will be no Halo television show!" and then wait for applause doesn't fit the bill.
Although I know I'm in the minority, I hope that's not the case.
Cirekiller
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I meant specifically to your point that Microsoft didn't put out any quality titles on the console, which I said was partially true but that third party made up for it. I wasn't implying anything about whether or not people would buy the XBone for the apps. And if it means anything, I agree with you there.
RedAssedApe
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Cboat's post was in response to this so it seems to be related to either apps and/or multi-tasking or maybe second screening?
RedAssedApe
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we all wish it were kinect + price drop right? hah
i know that's what I want lol
Chobel
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I don't think so, OS redesign it's not something that you do before few months from launch.
Cirekiller
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That would be great, but CBOAT has all but confirmed that it will never happen.
Get rid of Kinect completely and then we'll talk.
I'll keep believing that Microsoft is losing more sales due to Kinect than they are gaining because of it. #1. for the core market seems to be because they are Mandating it to be used with the system, and #1. for the casual market will be due to a higher price because of Kinect.
The new Kinect has not proven that the XBO is a better game console, and people buy game consoles to #1 PLAY GAMES. It doesn't make sense to limit the sales of your game console for a peripheral to get adopted, especially when your main competitor is selling more pre-orders, and they are not including a camera motion controlled device. So that market for developers to latch onto with Kinect is already a segregated market. Most devs will look towards the better selling PS4 instead.
Cirekiller
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I agree with you for the most part. But as CBOAT had said something about MS "riding with it to the grave" or something to that effect, I don't think it will happen, unless the XBone has Wii U level sales.
This article is disappointedly shallow.
A Hyper-V like VM layer holding two seperate operating systems would be incredibly interesting to talk about the inside intelligence.
Shame on MSFT that no one can step up and broadcast the tricky parts like Cerny did.
I really miss Steve Sinofsky and his Building Windows 8 blog.
A Hyper-V like VM layer holding two seperate operating systems would be incredibly interesting to talk about the inside intelligence.
Shame on MSFT that no one can step up and broadcast the tricky parts like Cerny did.
I really miss Steve Sinofsky and his Building Windows 8 blog.
Ironmanxrs2
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I'm pretty sure the NFL licensing deal was pretty expensive. Maybe canceling that and lowering console price? Then again why would they if preorders are sold out?
LukasTaves
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You sure make a good point, but usually devices connected on the TV are for their single use only... Xbone having a hdmi in that could be more accessible than the bak of the Tv or even miracast support can serve as a hub for all your devices to connect to the Tv. Which is kinda nice.
Plus, by using xbone as a hub, you get the benefit of having the xbox overlay available at all times, so you receive messages and game invites (With the possibility of switching to a game session in an instant), and perhaps even snap apps to those inputs too.
SEGAvangelist
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If they knock 50 bucks off somehow doing this and include a headset I'll say wow.
Ironmanxrs2
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If MS stopped charging for XBOX Live it would be so gangster and a knife in Sony's side. They can afford to do it as they'd still make money on store purchases including games & media.
Yes, but how limited were those Pre-Orders?
It took less than a day for the Ps4 Launch Edition $399.99 SKU to sell out on amazon, while it took a month for the XBO Day One Edition to sell out. However, that PS4 SKU is #3, and the XBO Day One is #6 in 2013 sales, and that is not including all the PS4 Bundle SKUs/Standard Edition that are also selling very well.
Like I said, a limited amount available selling out, and I don't find that very impressive when it's clearly behind the cheaper Ps4.
GuiltySpark
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I was actually quite pleased MS reserved 3GB for the OS. A lot of people assumed the X1s OS would have a 3GB footprint day one, but I doubt that and it's a good way of future proofing the device. App snapping is also quite a useful feature, especially because we'd be able to watch/stream videos next to our game. I'd love to stream combo videos or walkthroughs while playing a game. So I hope we'll be pleasantly wowed.
Cboat, can you please confirm if it's a positive wow or negative wow?
Cboat, can you please confirm if it's a positive wow or negative wow?
mhayze
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That's not what a Hypervisor does.
RedAssedApe
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I don't think the cost of a console has every been dictated by the services running on it though. Its always been about the BOM for the hardware and trying to sell it for as low as you can while also making a profit and/or limiting loss.