Why Did The PS3 Fail?

Phoenix Down said:
If the PS3 gets a price cut this year to 399 GT5 will easily sell 10million next year..its not comming "this spring" fall 08

and IMO MGS4 will sell 8-9
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Aw come on dude between this and the TT Bioshock results, you're killing me. Remember, even MGS2 didn't sell 9 million.
 
Tobor said:
He's not joking.
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Wow... I'm really having a hard time trying to determine who is anihawking, who is serious, and who is batshit insane.
I spent too long in GAF I guess....

On that note, I'm pretty sure the delusion quota in this thread has been reached, surpassed, and totally overflowing at this point.
 
Phoenix Down said:
and IMO MGS4 will sell 8-9
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:lol :lol :lol

Wollan said:
Sho_Nuff82, a lot of those games you just listed are going to get slaughtered by their counter part.
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Eh? Most of the 360 games have a much better chance to sell than the PS3 ones.
 
Arde5643 said:
Wow... I'm really having a hard time trying to determine who is anihawking, who is serious, and who is batshit insane.
I spent too long in GAF I guess....

On that note, I'm pretty sure the delusion quota in this thread has been reached, surpassed, and totally overflowing at this point.
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It's safe to assume batshit insane until proven innocent.
 
Wollan said:
The PS3 2008 lineup shames all others.
People are ultra quick to judge the HS/R&C/Uncharted combo this fall, adventure games and all with ironically the biggest X360 release destined for 08 being Alan Wake (though potentially Halo Wars in my eyes).

There are at least three PS3 exclusives coming next year that will strike higher than that game, those being Killzone 2, MGS4 & GT5 (the first two will hover around 4-5 million copies sold, GT5 will probably be ~10 million).

Now, we have those three games but we also have a total wild card with LittleBigPlanet. It will sell a million or two guaranteed but it could really really take off. There's nothing like it and it sells itself to people in less than 10 seconds, it will be very interesting to watch.

And besides those, we will have to see if Final Fantasy XIII makes it out, that could potentially make it five exclusive 08 PS3 games that outsell the top selling 08 X360 on their own.

Then besides those we have exclusives like WipEout PS3, White Knight, Socom 4. Those are million sellers. Then we have additional quality titles like inFamous and potentially a Insomniac game and other unannounced Sony 1st party titles (they usually announce them nine months ahead).
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You do realize the success of just about all the above mentioned games has been in question for months, right?

Besides fanboy dreams, people have touted the MGS4 360 and FFXIII Wii lines in the past because many feel the PS3 will cause the games to be far less successful than they should be.
 
Phoenix Down said:
If the PS3 gets a price cut this year to 399 GT5 will easily sell 10million next year..its not comming "this spring" fall 08

and IMO MGS4 will sell 8-9
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It's really too bad you won't be around to see it. GT5 would've been a much better game to go 'all in' on instead of Heavenly Sword.
 
Seriously, how the fuck do people think that certain games will be MORE popular on PS3 than fricken PS2? Userbase ALWAYS matters.
 
Oblivion said:
Seriously, how the fuck do people think that certain games will be MORE popular on PS3 than fricken PS2? Userbase ALWAYS matters.
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Zelda was more popular on the N64 than on the SNES.
 
Sho_Nuff82 said:
It's really too bad you won't be around to see it. GT5 would've been a much better game to go 'all in' on instead of Heavenly Sword.
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here we go again..and trust i will be around.. they dont call me Phoenix Down for nothing
 
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Since Dragona Akehi have bookmarked and is keeping track, just to have my 2008 theories on the clear:


• 8 million PS3's sold through at end of 07, 16-18million end of 08.
• PS3 will drop to 399$ next April or right before the first of either KZ2, LBP, GTA4 or MGS4 drops.
• GT5 will sell over 10 million copies, by summer 09 (over 8 million by end of 08).
• Killzone 2 will sell over 4 million copies by end of 08.
• MGS4 will sell over 4 million copies by end of 08.
• LBP will sell at least 2 million copies but it has the absolute biggest potential to explode, total wild card.
• Final Fantasy XIII will have sold 6 million copies within six months of hitting it's last big region.
• Alan Wake will (unless Epic by a miracle finds the time to finish Gears 2 for 08) be the best selling X360 title of 08 and it will be pretty much shoulder to shoulder with Halo Wars and do 3.5 million.
• PS3 will claim 40% of GTA4 sales next year.
• Home will have over 8 million separate accounts signed in by end of next year (that's covering from a single sign in to addict).
 
Wollan said:
Since Dragona Akehi have bookmarked and is keeping track, just to have my 2008 theories on the clear:

• PS3 will drop to 399$ next April or right before the first of either KZ2, LBP, GTA4 or MGS4 drops.
• GT5 will sell over 10 million copies, by summer 09 (over 8 million by end of 08).
• Killzone 2 will sell over 4 million copies by end of 08.
• MGS4 will sell over 4 million copies by end of 08.
• LBP will sell at least 2 million copies but it has the absolute biggest potential to explode, total wild card.
• Final Fantasy XIII will have sold 6 million copies within six months of hitting it's last big region.
• Alan Wake will (unless Epic by a miracle finds the time to finish Gears 2 for 08) be the best selling X360 title of 08 and it will be pretty much shoulder to shoulder with Halo Wars and do 3.5 million.
• PS3 will claim 40% of GT4 sales next year.
• Home will have over 8 million separate accounts signed in by end of next year (that's covering from a single sign in to addict).
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Hmmm.. no comment
 
Wollan said:
Since Dragona Akehi have bookmarked and is keeping track, just to have my 2008 theories on the clear:

• PS3 will drop to 399$ next April or right before the first of either KZ2, LBP, GTA4 or MGS4 drops.
• GT5 will sell over 10 million copies, by summer 09 (over 8 million by end of 08).
• Killzone 2 will sell over 4 million copies by end of 08.
• MGS4 will sell over 4 million copies by end of 08.
• LBP will sell at least 2 million copies but it has the absolute biggest potential to explode, total wild card.
• Final Fantasy XIII will have sold 6 million copies within six months of hitting it's last big region.
• Socom 4 & White Knight will be multi-million seller titles.
• Alan Wake will (unless Epic by a miracle finds the time to finish Gears 2 for 08) be the best selling X360 title of 08 and it will be pretty much shoulder to shoulder with Halo Wars and do 3.5 million.
• PS3 will claim 40% of GT4 sales next year.
• Home will have over 8 million separate accounts signed in by end of next year (that's covering from a single sign in to addict).
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I'm assuming you mean GTA4, and not a snowball's chance in hell. 30%, maybe.
 
Wollan said:
They don't really have that many more studios to tap. They are probably trying to get some exclusivity deals but as far as MS 1st party goes they are pretty much fully tapped.
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I'm sure Microsoft has something up their sleeves. They did announce 2 'casual' games this E3 (VP Party Animals and Scene It), but other than that they have been quiet since X06. Almost a year now. But if you look on the Internet, you'll find out that some independent dev studios are working on exclusive 360 games (for example Blue Castle Games).
 
Where the fuck do people come up with this GT5 selling 10 mil, what is everyone who owns a PS3 going to get 2 copies, I would be shocked if by the end of 2008 it had sold more than 4 million
 
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Oh, and...

Sharp said:
Zelda was more popular on the N64 than on the SNES.
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is the exception, not the rule. To clarify my point, Super Mario Kart, Super Mario World outsold their N64 counterparts in Japan, unsure how units sold world wide went.
 
JCBossman said:
Where the fuck do people come up with this GT5 selling 10 mil, what is everyone who owns a PS3 going to get 2 copies, I would be shocked if by the end of 2008 it had sold more than 4 million
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because every GT has sold around 10 million copies
 
Wow - can we get Wollan sectioned?

For a start Wollan, for the PS3 to have the user base to sell those figures - then that would mean a massive upturn in sales pretty soon. I`d suggest if that does happen, you can kiss the $399 price goodbye for a start.

Even with a very optomistic sales pattern, those games look to be at 100% (or even above) tie ratios.

Good luck to sony and all that, but this just strikes me as delusional given the predicament and is basically a status check on why the sony fans are struggling with their first ever "bad" console run.
 
Phoenix Down said:
because every GT has sold around 10 million copies
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How did every other Hot Shots golf do? GT5 is the epitomey of a Hardcore game.Hell I don't own Froza because I can't stand the car physics.Burnout is more my style and "Maybe" PGR4, what was the PS2 base when GT4 came out? It would be better to go by that % wise.
 
mood said:
GT5 is going to have a 100% tie ratio :lol
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And GT3 had a 200% tie ratio. Lulz.

Edit: I think there are people here incapable of understanding that sarcasm.
There were less PS2's sold when GT3 dropped compared to what there will be PS3's sold when GT5 drops.
 
I predict no PS3 game will ever sell over 10m units. None.

Wii and 360 will each manage at least 2 games over 10m, and DS will manage 6 or more.
 
Segata Sanshiro said:
It's okay to like a system that isn't winning. I do it all the time.
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The key is not to be dismayed when a majority of ppl hate it. Be brave like Wollan, or ignore sales-age threads or take it in stride.
 
• PS3 will drop to 499$ next April , the HDD will be bigger and more will be packed in - including the new controller Sony want you to use. Bargain price at 499$ showing a real price cut. Value-age !
• GT5 will be released just in time for summer 09
• Killzone 2 will sell over 2 million copies by end of 08.
• MGS4 will sell over 2 million copies by end of 08.
• LBP will sell at least 1 million copies
• Final Fantasy XIII will have sold 9 million copies due to going multiplatform and a 09 release
• Socom 4 &
White Knight will be cancelled to allow work on Leyton 3 for wii
• An unannounced title will be the biggest seller on X360
• PS3 will claim 40% less score in GT4 reviews due to poor performance vs. lead X360 version.
• Home will have over 8 million separate accounts signed in by end of next year - then sony announce that this is based on anyone downloading the mandatory firmware update enabling home. Kittonwy shows porn. Dcharlie pisses people off with his "my other console is an X360" poster/tshirt sales.
 
MoxManiac said:
I like my PS3 :(
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So do I, but it doesn't alter the fact that it currently has few games for my liking (I own/plan to own in the near future: Oblivion, VF5 and Ninja Gaiden Sigma), and that it is a complete commercial failure comparing it to Sony's previous offerings.

I loved my Saturn too.
 
DCharlie said:
Even with a very optomistic sales pattern, those games look to be at 100% (or even above) tie ratios.
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I doubt a game will go over 40-50% tie ratio but I believe GT5 will be at the very limit.
In my mind GT5 will hit in July like the creator expressed not long ago. At the end of 08 there will probably be 16-18 million PS3s sold (and 8 million copies of GT5).

Edit: 16-18m.
 
Wollan said:
Since Dragona Akehi have bookmarked and is keeping track, just to have my 2008 theories on the clear:

• PS3 will drop to 399$ next April or right before the first of either KZ2, LBP, GTA4 or MGS4 drops.
• GT5 will sell over 10 million copies, by summer 09 (over 8 million by end of 08).
• Killzone 2 will sell over 4 million copies by end of 08.
• MGS4 will sell over 4 million copies by end of 08.
• LBP will sell at least 2 million copies but it has the absolute biggest potential to explode, total wild card.
• Final Fantasy XIII will have sold 6 million copies within six months of hitting it's last big region.
• Alan Wake will (unless Epic by a miracle finds the time to finish Gears 2 for 08) be the best selling X360 title of 08 and it will be pretty much shoulder to shoulder with Halo Wars and do 3.5 million.
• PS3 will claim 40% of GTA4 sales next year.
• Home will have over 8 million separate accounts signed in by end of next year (that's covering from a single sign in to addict).
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I really would love to know how many PS3's will have sold by the end of 2007 and then again end of 2008 to support these sales numbers.
 
I believe Sony will hit 8 million consoles sold by the end of this year worldwide.
18 million was my max actually, I had 16-18 mill written for end of next year.
I really believe their insane lineup, single sku with strong price drop will help them strongly next year. Next gen came too early, more people will be ready next year.
 
Wollan said:
I doubt a game will go over 40-50% tie ratio but I believe GT5 will be at the very limit.
In my mind GT5 will hit in July like the creator expressed not long ago. At the end of 08 there will probably be ~18 million PS3s sold (and 8 million copies of GT5).
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So approx a MILLION a month in console sales, for the next 14 months?
 
At the end of 08 there will probably be ~18 million PS3s sold (and 8 million copies of GT5
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given your previous confident claim of 12 million by end of 2007, does this mean only 6 million sales next year, or were new battle notes released by Sony?

In my mind
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In my mind i live in a house where chocolate comes out of the taps and super models feed me grapes, it doesn`t make it any more real.
 
Dragona Akehi said:
I still love my Saturn: more than my N64 or GC by far (combined and doubled even)!
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I'm afraid to ask where PS3 is in that comparison..

But fuck it, where's PS3 in all of that?
 
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