EA sales broken down by platform.
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Pre-defensive posting? Who put in question the ability of the Wii to sell?titiklabingapat said:
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He's implying that it EA's poor performance on the Wii was Nintendo's problem.godhandiscen said:
They're trying to broaden their safety net of games that sell well, except that they're all the same shooting/racing genres that sold on the Xbox1; Gears, Mass Effect, and Too Human are sci-fi shooting games, while PGR and Forza are tried and true racers. There was even Shadowrun, a decent enough game (quite fun actually) in its own right, but they sent it to die.godhandiscen said:
Viva, Blue Dragon, LP, Kameo, these titles just don't appeal to the average Xbox gamer, but at least they're trying to diversify things. Those are all better than PDZ, which outsold them all.
The problem is that while trying to obtain a bigger, more accessible and casual market, those games help alienate their core market. Scene It is not aimed at the college frat guy who plays Halo.
Yeah, this generation is crazy. Not the best time to be a publisher, I think. I mean, this is what you have:
Wii - Selling huge amounts of hardware, but no one knows who to sell software on the thing. I don't know what they can do. Maybe they should look at start lowering prices on these games. If they're really so much cheaper to produce, they should be cheaper. Look at RE4, Sold a million worldwide at 30 bucks.
360 - Hardware sales are completely average, but software sales are fantastic. However, most of the high selling titles have been big budget affairs with big marketing budgets. And as hungry as the userbase is for software, I don't think it'll sell enough hardware to support a wide variety of software like the PS2 did.
PS3 - This generations GameCube, but without the high selling Nintendo titles. Who knows what to do with it.
Wii - Selling huge amounts of hardware, but no one knows who to sell software on the thing. I don't know what they can do. Maybe they should look at start lowering prices on these games. If they're really so much cheaper to produce, they should be cheaper. Look at RE4, Sold a million worldwide at 30 bucks.
360 - Hardware sales are completely average, but software sales are fantastic. However, most of the high selling titles have been big budget affairs with big marketing budgets. And as hungry as the userbase is for software, I don't think it'll sell enough hardware to support a wide variety of software like the PS2 did.
PS3 - This generations GameCube, but without the high selling Nintendo titles. Who knows what to do with it.
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What's EA's cut on a PS3 game? EA makes money when sold to stores, and NPD reports sell through. We should be able to come up with an estimate based on numbers and not someones guess.
titiklabingapat
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Not to twist this either but it's no surprise it's tracking even lower than the Gamecube in both Japan and NA(where we have actual verifiable data).Grayman said:
Vaandaviii
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Considering most of those sales are US franchises nobody cares about elsewhere, and what's more important, they were NOT released on PS3 on the year 2006... Those figures simply don't amaze me.
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Vaandaviii said:
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titiklabingapat
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Stealth sellers, those not appearing in the top ten, most probably. Wii has tons of exclusive shovelware, all those add up.pswii60 said:
You gotta remember, Wii users do not tend to explode on the first day further decreasing their chances of appearing in the top ten each month, giving the illusion that Wii software is much worse than it actually is.
titiklabingapat said:
Right, great, whatever.
Anyway, Tiger Woods is no doubt the biggest contributor, along with My Sims which has done very well at least here in the UK. Then there's stuff like SSX Blur and Boogie. Then reasonable sales of FIFA and Madden, and you have the figure I think.
MightyHedgehog
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I used to wonder, but I really do think it's the community Live effect. And it's not just Live subscribers, either. Marketplace is an amazing marketing opportunity and it's working well for those that take advantage of it.Speevy said:
All popular and unpopular platforms sell titles of varying quality. The most popular platforms simply sell more of everything.
Eh, the X360 market is still too hardcore. Once a SKU hits $199, I foresee a perfectly fine retail casual market. No popular platform stays exclusively hardcore forever. Besides, the big thing that tends to be forgotten is Live Arcade and that happens to be sucking up most of that casual, non-hardcore gaming dollar for the platform.
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Opus Angelorum said:
Ok i'll take that as the ownage dot of death :lol
MySims WII Sep 18, 2007
NHL 08 X360 Sep 12, 2007
NHL 08 PS2 Sep 11, 2007
NHL 08 PS3 Sep 11, 2007
Medal of Honor: Airborne X360 Sep 4, 2007
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 PS2 Aug 28, 2007
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 PSP Aug 28, 2007
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 WII Aug 28, 2007
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 DS Aug 28, 2007
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 PS3 Aug 28, 2007
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 X360 Aug 28, 2007
Madden NFL 08 PS2 Aug 14, 2007
Madden NFL 08 PSP Aug 14, 2007
Madden NFL 08 WII Aug 14, 2007
Madden NFL 08 DS Aug 14, 2007
Madden NFL 08 PS3 Aug 14, 2007
Madden NFL 08 X360 Aug 14, 2007
Boogie WII Aug 7, 2007
NASCAR 08 PS2 Jul 23, 2007
NASCAR 08 PS3 Jul 23, 2007
NASCAR 08 X360 Jul 23, 2007
NCAA Football 08 PS2 Jul 17, 2007
NCAA Football 08 XBOX Jul 17, 2007
NCAA Football 08 PS3 Jul 17, 2007
NCAA Football 08 X360 Jul 17, 2007
Rugby 08 PS2 Jul 17, 2007
X360 - 6 games
PS3 - 5 games
Wii - 4 games
PS2 - 6 games
PSP - 2 games
DS - 2 games
NHL 08 X360 Sep 12, 2007
NHL 08 PS2 Sep 11, 2007
NHL 08 PS3 Sep 11, 2007
Medal of Honor: Airborne X360 Sep 4, 2007
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 PS2 Aug 28, 2007
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 PSP Aug 28, 2007
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 WII Aug 28, 2007
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 DS Aug 28, 2007
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 PS3 Aug 28, 2007
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 X360 Aug 28, 2007
Madden NFL 08 PS2 Aug 14, 2007
Madden NFL 08 PSP Aug 14, 2007
Madden NFL 08 WII Aug 14, 2007
Madden NFL 08 DS Aug 14, 2007
Madden NFL 08 PS3 Aug 14, 2007
Madden NFL 08 X360 Aug 14, 2007
Boogie WII Aug 7, 2007
NASCAR 08 PS2 Jul 23, 2007
NASCAR 08 PS3 Jul 23, 2007
NASCAR 08 X360 Jul 23, 2007
NCAA Football 08 PS2 Jul 17, 2007
NCAA Football 08 XBOX Jul 17, 2007
NCAA Football 08 PS3 Jul 17, 2007
NCAA Football 08 X360 Jul 17, 2007
Rugby 08 PS2 Jul 17, 2007
X360 - 6 games
PS3 - 5 games
Wii - 4 games
PS2 - 6 games
PSP - 2 games
DS - 2 games
MightyHedgehog said:
There may be some truth to this, as some XBLA games have done extremely well in this regard. VP actually ended up selling 500k+
But to be honest, I think the biggest problem is that there hasn't been anything truly great yet. There hasn't been anything like Mario, and there hasn't been anything like Ratchet. Rare need to be working on some killer apps to help MS out here in this area. It's fine to have games like VP
A, and they will appeal to the kids along with all the licensed stuff. But you also need to have some AAA games with good reviews so that retailers will actually recommend some decent games to parents too. Banjo has the potential of course, but who knows how that's shaping up.Interestingly though, you can see how the demographic has changed from the typical 18-34 in the first year to a lower age in the second year, probably down to 13 yo boys - simply because stuff like Transformers, Madden, FIFA etc has sold so much better.
titiklabingapat
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So out of all the major sports franchise, the Wii didn't get NCAA, NHL and Nascar.
Diatribe1974
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One thing to remember is this: This is EA. This is the single largest Western Publisher & one of the largest publisher of games in the world. And their sales for this quarter are this low for anything other than the 360. Can you imagine what the other developers (smaller ones with less MUST HAVE titles) are experiencing during the same timeframe?
chris0701 said:
So basically, Boogie, gimped Madden with broken online, a good Tiger Woods and MySims against NCAA, NASCAR, lead SKU Madden, Tiger Woods, MoH: A and NHL and a temporarily larger install base.
I can imagine 360 still being for software than Wii for EA if the lineup was more balanced with quality titles on both sides, and equaling 360's level of promotion on the Wii side, but I doubt it'll be this way for long, especially how the big sports titles are mainly in this period.
Still, well done, 360.
titiklabingapat
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Their marketshare is also shrinking faster than everyone else so it's possible that other third party publishers(like Activision and Ubisoft) are eating up those marketshare(along with Nintendo, of course).DiatribeEQ said:
chris0701 said:MySims WII Sep 18, 2007
NHL 08 X360 Sep 12, 2007
NHL 08 PS2 Sep 11, 2007
NHL 08 PS3 Sep 11, 2007
Medal of Honor: Airborne X360 Sep 4, 2007
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 PS2 Aug 28, 2007
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 PSP Aug 28, 2007
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 WII Aug 28, 2007
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 DS Aug 28, 2007
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 PS3 Aug 28, 2007
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 X360 Aug 28, 2007
Madden NFL 08 PS2 Aug 14, 2007
Madden NFL 08 PSP Aug 14, 2007
Madden NFL 08 WII Aug 14, 2007
Madden NFL 08 DS Aug 14, 2007
Madden NFL 08 PS3 Aug 14, 2007
Madden NFL 08 X360 Aug 14, 2007
Boogie WII Aug 7, 2007
NASCAR 08 PS2 Jul 23, 2007
NASCAR 08 PS3 Jul 23, 2007
NASCAR 08 X360 Jul 23, 2007
NCAA Football 08 PS2 Jul 17, 2007
NCAA Football 08 XBOX Jul 17, 2007
NCAA Football 08 PS3 Jul 17, 2007
NCAA Football 08 X360 Jul 17, 2007
Rugby 08 PS2 Jul 17, 2007
X360 - 6 games
PS3 - 5 games
Wii - 4 games
PS2 - 6 games
PSP - 2 games
DS - 2 games
Wow shit. So the Wii games must've sold very well then. I expect the heavy hitters for Wii were Fifa 08, My Sims and Tiger Woods.
Whats most amazing is DS, 2 games and 47m in revenue. Wow!
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Also, I didn't know there was a DS version of COD 4, wtf EA :lol
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titiklabingapat said:
COD is Activision, you might be thinking Medal of Honor
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Oh yes. I always confuse the two :lolAgent Icebeezy said:
Still, WTF ACTIVISION! COD4 DS!! :lol :lol
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Lobster said:
There has to be something else too. Didn't EA release SimCity this year? What about those Sims for the DS games?
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titiklabingapat said:
Possibly, but it still gives you a very good idea of how things have been over the summer: Very poor for almost everyone involved who's name does start with Halo & end in 3.
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I got you, even Madden 08 is tracking slower than Madden 07.DiatribeEQ said:
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Well, 'kiddy' games aren't representative of all non-hardcore games. I think that's the misconception about casual games. Madden is, IMO, one of the most popular casual releases you get on consoles. Yes, it has a legion of hardcore players but so does Pokemon. I view them much the same. Licensed stuff is also casual because it sells itself mostly based on a mainstream property. I think it's the adrenaline-heavy shooter glut that has made the perspective on X360's lineup a little confusing.pswii60 said:
I think Rare will be kicking some ass again in '08. As for the lack of 'AAA' happy stuff, I think the demand isn't there yet. That's the kind of stuff only Ninty seems to work out well with before their platform becomes massively popular. Everyone else has to wait until the system hits $199. Ratchet, as fine as it seems to be, is far too early in the lifespan of the PS3 to sell like it probably should, IMO. Again, I think Rare will have it covered on X360 for retail releases but I also think Arcade is doing a fine job of sating the non-hardcore gaming needs of the userbase so far. If only MS would get a clue and really market it better.But to be honest, I think the biggest problem is that there hasn't been anything truly great yet. There hasn't been anything like Mario, and there hasn't been anything like Ratchet. Rare need to be working on some killer apps to help MS out here in this area. It's fine to have games like VP
Yeah, I think that's the curve you want to hit as you open up your accessibility with lower prices and broader libraries.
titiklabingapat said:
N-Space is developing it. I have no idea why Activision gave it to N-Space..VV probably thought it was the shittest idea ever and said no or something.
AlternativeUlster said:
Oh wait, There were also those Wii+DS Sims2 games. You're right. Simcity was on DS too. So the DS list is small but the Wii list just about needs like 2 games.
titiklabingapat
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You can really spin it and not consider Madden "casual"(non-gaming sense) anymore. I mean, think about. The usual core gamer is usually somebody aged 14-34 and is male, the same people who is most likely a football fan.
The Wii-360 Madden sales gives some fuel into my conjecture, and will probably be reinforced by GH sales. The Madden people went with the 360 and GH crowd will most likely go to the Wii(the Wii version doesn't necesarilly have to outsell the 360 version yet, just that the gap should be significantly smaller compared to Wii-360 Madden sales).
The Wii-360 Madden sales gives some fuel into my conjecture, and will probably be reinforced by GH sales. The Madden people went with the 360 and GH crowd will most likely go to the Wii(the Wii version doesn't necesarilly have to outsell the 360 version yet, just that the gap should be significantly smaller compared to Wii-360 Madden sales).
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I'm surprised EA have released this information, other publishers will pounce on it and use it in their own business decisions. It seems to be they are trying to send a message out to Sony.
The good news is that investors will expect this information every quarter so we can see how the figures progress.
The reason why 360 sales are so high in relation to installer base is the community features on live, I cant remember how many messages I have got from some of my friends who last gen had PS2's and only ever played played Tiger Woods etc asking "whats that game X you're playing" "is it any good?" "ok i'll pick it up". Yesterday I got a message from someone who once told me "I dont not like shooting games they make be dizzy" saying "Make sure you all get Call of Duty 4!" If you dont get the latest game you feel silly on your friends list... its like crack
The good news is that investors will expect this information every quarter so we can see how the figures progress.
The reason why 360 sales are so high in relation to installer base is the community features on live, I cant remember how many messages I have got from some of my friends who last gen had PS2's and only ever played played Tiger Woods etc asking "whats that game X you're playing" "is it any good?" "ok i'll pick it up". Yesterday I got a message from someone who once told me "I dont not like shooting games they make be dizzy" saying "Make sure you all get Call of Duty 4!" If you dont get the latest game you feel silly on your friends list... its like crack
Interestingly, revenues on PSP are dropping faster than revenues on DS are increasing. Couple that with the fact that increases in revenue for the 360, PS3 & Wii altogether couldn't match the drop in revenues for PS2, and that means one of 3 things:
1) Someone else is stealing EA's marketshare. Nintendo, Ubisoft & Activision are all likely candidates there.
2) A lot of people are holding on to their PS2s and haven't jumped one way or the other in the current generation. EA's not making so many PS2 games anymore, so they're losing out on potential revenue because of it.
3) A lot of people are getting out of gaming, or taking a break from it, and the younger inductess haven't quite caught up to speed yet.
1) Someone else is stealing EA's marketshare. Nintendo, Ubisoft & Activision are all likely candidates there.
2) A lot of people are holding on to their PS2s and haven't jumped one way or the other in the current generation. EA's not making so many PS2 games anymore, so they're losing out on potential revenue because of it.
3) A lot of people are getting out of gaming, or taking a break from it, and the younger inductess haven't quite caught up to speed yet.
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Possibly trying to get at a larger percentage of the game sale price? It would serve well as a threat.mr_bishiuk said:
Yep, old. I posted them in the the "EA other numbers" thread a month ago, but nearly no one noticed since everyone was bitching about the fact that one million of MySims is shipped to retailers and they were disappointed by those numbers.godhandiscen said:
Stop the paranoia :lolmr_bishiuk said:
All you have got to do is to dig the quarterly results in their official IR website and you'll find everything you want (like Mobile phone market being twice as big as the PSP). The same thing applies for Activision results released lately (and probably every company quoted in the market stock).
With those numbers you gotta wonder if EA will just allow Mass Effect 2 and 3 to come out on 360 only. Weighing in the development costs of multi platform for such a complex game, it might not be that crazy.
Then again that might never be an issue if MS still has the publishing rights for all 3 titles.
:lol @ Wii sales. Sure, it's a hardware powerhouse but that means nothing if people are just playing Wii Sports. Everyone I know with a Wii only buys the big exclusive titles (MP3, Super Mario Galaxy, Zelda)... when it comes to multiplatform games no one is ever going to choose the Wii version unless its their only choice. And no other studios make great exclusive wii titles. Maybe next gen Nintendo...
As for PS3... :lol
Then again that might never be an issue if MS still has the publishing rights for all 3 titles.
:lol @ Wii sales. Sure, it's a hardware powerhouse but that means nothing if people are just playing Wii Sports. Everyone I know with a Wii only buys the big exclusive titles (MP3, Super Mario Galaxy, Zelda)... when it comes to multiplatform games no one is ever going to choose the Wii version unless its their only choice. And no other studios make great exclusive wii titles. Maybe next gen Nintendo...
As for PS3... :lol
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This is all revenue, not profits.Nolan. said:
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