Parakeetman
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So are the engineers still the walking death machines they were in BF3? haha
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So are the engineers still the walking death machines they were in BF3? haha
Yea it's fine. The sp is just ok, but playable. The mp is amazing when it works, but it's already getting more consistent.
BattleMonkey
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Mainly yes because of the amount of them. You spot one, no problem, but alas, at the same time 2-3 others are at that moment aiming at you with a rocket.
EatChildren
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Not being able to easily take out a tank single handed is frustrating for the individual player but pretty important for overall team play. You're not supposed to run solo and tanks should have an advantage over a single infantry unit. This is especially true for the mobility and size advantage of infantry, where it's not all that difficult to flank and hide from tanks and land every shot successfully. The idea is you work together, and one of your two-three engineer group lands the killing blow, the reward being the end of the tank. But the dumb XP/unlock system makes that reward less satisfying when you get an assist and were aiming for the kill.
Not seeing any improvement at all, if anything it's gotten worse today.
top on my team with 16:3 kills WUT!
The game runs much better now, 2 maps and no micro stuttering ....i don't care if i get crashed every 10 minutes or so ...FINALLY i can play the game without any 15 fps feeling.
The game runs much better now, 2 maps and no micro stuttering ....i don't care if i get crashed every 10 minutes or so ...FINALLY i can play the game without any 15 fps feeling.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Btw did the mortar make its return? Please tell me it did, since that was one of the must useful weapons for breaking up enemies that didnt want to get out of a specific location in the open.
spindoctor
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Yea, it's back. And you can control it remotely so you're not a sitting duck every time you deploy it.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Aw man that being a sitting duck part was the whole art in behind using one. Glad to hear its still in at least and thank you for the reply its much appreciated!
jacksepticeye
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That's only cos the starting rocket launcher is ass
Once you get the RPG you can take out tanks easily on your own. Especially on a map like Shanghai where there's lots of pillars and stuff to hide behind.
My problem is, I can hit them in the ass 2-3 times which was guarantee a kill in BF3, but doesn't even disable in BF4. You can partially attribute it to netcode, but most of it is on the lower damage rate for the RPG's.
It's fucking stupid to flank, hit them in the ass and only cause a speed/immobile with them being at like 75% health. What is the point of bothering to attempt to take them out if I can't put a decent chunk of damage in their ass?
spindoctor
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Wait until people unlock this game's version of reactive armor. Rocket launchers will just tickle tanks then.
People already have. And I already said that: The armor makes the RPG's weak damage even weaker and the tanks become invincible.
No the RPG doesn't need to be buffed to the point where single person can take it out. HOWEVER if a single-person flanks and hits the tank in the ass 2-3 times consistantly? I'd like the fucking kill or at least a fucking DISABLE on it.
Red Blaster
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not a fan of the quicker time to kill here versus bf3
No because most armour drivers are already driving around on the outskirts of the battle because we simply can't aid in any attacks because we'll be shot to hell, C4'd and everything in between. If they up ANY sort of damage, armour will be straight up useless.
There's too many engineers and they should work in groups to bring down a tank. ONE guy should NOT have the ability to completely destroy or even cripple a chance at the blink of an eye, no matter how much he flanks or gets perfect hits.
It's fine the way it is.
Yeah, the starting rocket launcher is utter shit. I don't get what the point of that semi-homing ability is, if the rocket misses it still doesn't track the target. And because of that ability it does laughable damage. Even the RPG7 is bad, and that's the highest damage launcher.
And now after dying and reloading the stutter is back....WTF!
I just did 34-0 at lancang dam. Sitting my ass on the mobile AA at the base the whole round. That map shouldn't have AA. It's too open. There's no cover for helicopters.
But anyway. Active radar missiles are way too effective against helicopters. There's no lock on. You just shoot close to the target and the missile will hit it. They never have time to use flares. It's fun to see the pilots rage. One called me a cheater.
But anyway. Active radar missiles are way too effective against helicopters. There's no lock on. You just shoot close to the target and the missile will hit it. They never have time to use flares. It's fun to see the pilots rage. One called me a cheater.
BattleMonkey
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With how overplayed engineer is, it doesn't seem to be an issue, buffing their damage will make things worse. Already enough stuff in the game that makes vehicles weak and vulnerable.
fierrotlepou
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So it didn't help?
It is my own fault for dying really.
Dictator93
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Facism
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Settings, windows version, and other rig detiails?
a little offtopic but ns2_eclipse
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/soldier/Bombless/stats/250253769/pc/
11h played and Rank 12. Can't say I've had many issues with crashes, but on the other hand I've also decided to stay away from 64 players servers. Not sure if the issues are related.
Got 2 weeks off starting tomorrow, the play time is about to explode haha!
11h played and Rank 12. Can't say I've had many issues with crashes, but on the other hand I've also decided to stay away from 64 players servers. Not sure if the issues are related.
Got 2 weeks off starting tomorrow, the play time is about to explode haha!
Facism
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none of these maps are made or balanced for 64 players, so you're doing it right.
Pretty sure it worked for me, also. Yay
Dictator93
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a little offtopic but ns2_eclipse
I peed myself a little after seeing the announcement.
All we need after that is the HMG!
That reloading animation and sound are still so memorable to me after all these years.
fierrotlepou
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Exactly, you deserve all the micro-stuttering thrown at you.
Jibbajabbawockky
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Yeah, I need to figure that out too. Shotguns were my go to weapon in BF3.
I just really don't care for the unlocks in this. Especially starting out, they feel much more restrictive than even BF3, which I thought was pretty bad. Just makes the early game not much fun when you're so limited with what you can try out unless you grind, grind, grind only to have a server disconnect causing you to lose your progress.
By using LMG's - I think.
JacksUsername
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Man this game is so buggy. After dying and reloading a checkpoint, Kovic is now a Smurf.
Getting points as Support. I think it's 30k? 40k? Then use the shotty to unlock the other weapons down the line, just like Carbines and engineers.
It is from the single-player.
Yeah that explains why I didnt recognize it.
He's not wrong. Again: 4-5 RPG-7 shots in a tanks ass, no disable.
Fuck that shit. You get far more consistant killing speed and damage just C4'ing the sumbitches.
Unless the Javelin fixes my complaint: I can't care. If I get around the enemy lines to get at your back: I want the fucking damage to show it. I shouldn't be penalized for being the only engineer using the RPG-7 to hit you in the ass.
Meanwhile, I've seen entire tank teams demolish the defense tanks (either because they don't have better stuff equipped) and the defense throwing RPG-7's at them since they have two-five engineers repairing them in return on Rush in that desert map (Lasang Bridge or something?). It's bananas.
Man this game is so buggy. After dying and reloading a checkpoint, Kovic is now a Smurf.
All dat HUD.
JacksUsername
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How do you take a clean screenshot in campaign mode? Looked through the shortcuts and didn't see anything, so I used the old print screen in windowed mode method since FRAPS wasn't running.
Yep false alarm, somehow micro stuttering is back.
jim2point0
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I had to downsample a screenshot from 6000x3375 -> 1920x1080 with 4xMSAA for powerlines to look decent O_O
Open the console (~ key) and type "ui.drawenable 0"
I created a cheat engine script to remove my gun model when I took my SP screenshots.
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