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"But not everyone's posted about it, who knows how big the failure rate is?"

Please, just....stop. You may as well claim 100% of the units out there have failed because hey, we can't prove otherwise.
 
TonkuySlon said:
You can probably easily multiply that number by 10 or 15...Not everyone gets on NeoGaf or twitter to report...
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Multiplying that number by 10-15 would mean there are 72-112 unreported failed ps4s out there...yea no. Like yea there are likely more cases out there, but I highly doubt it's exceedingly significant at the moment. We can't really talk about supposed hypothetical large numbers of unreported cases anymore so than we can be dismissive that it's "just these ~8". Either way we'll see tomorrow and in the coming months how this plays out.
 
I hope they find a solution to this problem and yes it is known for early console models to come along with issues at launch that is nothing new
 
kitsuneyo said:
The winners were Taco Bell customers, not all of them will have been gamers. I don't know how many defective PS4s were sent out, I expect not many more than we know about, but the 8/4000 argument is not that useful.
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I'd think more of the winners would happen to be gamers than not. It wasn't exactly an instant win stick on the side of a drink cup. You had to order a specific meal to get a code and then play the code at a specific time in order to win. Incidental wins by non-gamers wouldn't be very likely. Possible. But still not likely.
 
Holy shit, I can't believe how stupid this is getting. People should calm down, blowing this way out of proportion. Out of all the fucking PS4's out there already, there are only a handful with this issue.

Either people have never been through ANY new hardware launch or you just like overreacting for shits and giggles.

Or you're buying a One instead of a PS4.
 
Carl said:
"But not everyone's posted about it, who knows how big the failure rate is?"

Please, just....stop. You may as well claim 100% of the units out there have failed because hey, we can't prove otherwise.
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Forreal, that's not how logic works...
 
If I had to guess the failure rate I would say roughly 120%. It can also make your ps3 or 360 fail if they are nearby.
 
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S¡mon;89809328 said:
I hope he's right, but we'll found out soon enough.
And to be honest, the first few units that will fail will always get a lot of public attention.
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Thats true, specially after RROD and YLOD incidents. Everyone wants to know if this time their console is safe from a massive failure rate.

One thing that makes me more confident, is that the guy from twitch had a different problem compared to Kotaku. And the twitch problem seemed with software, while kotaku seems a HDMI problem that coud be solved easily.
 
The response to this launch coupled with social media has created some incredibly ugly opinions and responses compared to any other launch I've seen in my 26 years. A couple bad eggs turn into a hysteria.

I still recall getting an SNES and having to return it due to the 1st controller port being dead on arrival. The failure rates for SNES must have been incredibly low since that was the only one I had ever encountered and the new one I got still works today... but had that launch happened today? Imagine...
 
MetatronM said:
It's like people have amnesia and forget that stories about bricked machines and bugged out hardware are a part of every console launch. Aside from the limited software options available at a launch, it's basically THE reason not to buy a day one console, any day one console.

(And with the exception of the Xbox 360's RROD issue, it's almost always far few units than it seems through anecdotal evidence.)
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I dont see what the issue is, if it bricks, return it.

Like i said before, id be more worried about it breaking down outside the warranty period.

Thats why i will probably sell my launch PS4 (To a second hand retailer, im not an asshole) before the warranty is up.
 
m0t0k1 said:
You act like 7 are the only ones who broke down. But it will probably be more except those people are not rambling on the internet.
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In the Facebook age? Not a chance, no one would stay quiet about this. Even if someone did, you're talking maybe, maybe another two or three consoles. If you're expecting dozens are failing and that only a small percentage are reporting it, then you're clearly behind the times.
 
RROD failure rate 54.2%
YLOD failure rate 10.3%
Wii's failure rate 6.8%

Not sure about the Wii U's failure rate but there was definitely quite a few of them because of the bricking/update problem they had.

So at this point having a .2% failure rate is nothing to worry about. I mean if it's seriously just up to 20 consoles out of a batch of 4000 consoles is not that bad
 
kyser73 said:
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You know, all through that movie the entire theme had been FEAR. At every turn someone was mentioning fear, fear this, fear that. Then this particular bit of dialog pops up and I think the word is going to be fear and... panic. Why? On every re-watch I am fooled.
 
Could it be possible people are making a bigger deal out of this than they should because they're starved for any negative Sony news? I'm sure we'll be hearing similar things with the X1, important thing is to not believe anything unless there's solid proof backing it up.
 
ThoughtsOfSpeaking said:
I dont see what the issue is, if it bricks, return it.

Like i said before, id be more worried about it breaking down outside the warranty period.

Thats why i will probably sell my launch PS4 (To a second hand retailer, im not an asshole) before the warranty is up.
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There's like no excess inventory. You won't be able to exchange it out for a new one within your 30 days. It'll need to be sent to Sony and wait a few days for them to fix it
 
merrick97 said:
The sad thing is that you will have a small handful of people with console issues and they will be the ones that end on the internet making it look like the issue is much worse than it actually is.

On the otherhand if there does end up being a legit issue every single bit of goodwill that Sony has built up will be gone.
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Yeah, I don't remember people's overreactions being so magnified 7 years ago anyway.
 
Dr.Palutena said:
Multiplying that number by 10-15 would mean there are 72-112 unreported failed ps4s out there...yea no. Like yea there are likely more cases out there, but I highly doubt it's exceedingly significant at the moment. We can't really talk about supposed hypothetical large numbers of unreported cases anymore so than we can be dismissive that it's "just these ~8". Either way we'll see tomorrow and in the coming months how this plays out.
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Even if there are 112 defective units that would push the failure rate (assuming there are 4000 PS4's out there) to 2.8%.
 
Glorious Ownage said:
There's like no excess inventory. You won't be able to exchange it out for a new one within your 30 days. It'll need to be sent to Sony and wait a few days for them to fix it
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Oh wow, a few days! Like you haven't just waited 8 months? Jesus people, have some perspective.

Im not saying you shouldnt be gutted that if your launch unit breaks, but its not the end of the world while you are covered by warranty.
 
I love neogaf but man... These overreactions are just really silly and shows that there might be more 8-12 year old kids in here then I thought. Defective units are normal. In laptops for example it varies around 10 to 15%...
 
B_Spooky13 said:
RROD failure rate 54.2%
YLOD failure rate 10.3%
Wii's failure rate 6.8%

Not sure about the Wii U's failure rate but there was definitely quite a few of them because of the bricking/update problem they had.

So at this point having a .2% failure rate is nothing to worry about. I mean if it's seriously just up to 20 consoles out of a batch of 4000 consoles is not that bad
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Where are you getting 10.3% failure rate for PS3 from?
 
Tsundere said:
Said to be 4000+ consoles out there being used atm.

8 reported defective units...

0.2% defective rate.

PANIC!

Taking the peak ~30% RROD defective rate initially, that's 15000% better!
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The 30% RROD was over 2 years. How many red ringed out of the box? Considering it was a heat problem, pretty sure the answer is none.
 
8 defective units out of out of 4000 doesn't seem all that bad. 0.2%

But its possible that the failure rate will increase over time.

Let's hope that doesn't happen.
 
Americanmushroom said:
I love neogaf but man... These overreactions are just really silly and shows that there might be more 8-12 year old kids in here then I thought. Defective units are normal. In laptops for example it varies around 10 to 15%...
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People cancelling their pre-orders are kind of hilarious to watch at least.
 
Obvious lies. I've run the numbers and by my estimates there are at LEAST 1080 broken PS4s out there.

SuperSonic1305 said:
Hardware failures will be exaggerated this gen because of social media. Imagine if Twitter was a thing during RROD. It would be the end of the world.
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If social media was as huge back then, I honestly don't believe we'd have seen an Xbox One.
 
This situation currently seems like a tempest in a teapot, IMO. So far as I can tell, we've seen less than ten defective units online out of the thousands shipped (not saying that others won't break later on down the line, though). In this connected age, I'm pretty sure that most people with a broken PS4 would be shouting it from the rooftops, so I'm reasonably ceertain that there aren't a ton more that we don't know about at this point.

I'm going to Wally World to pick up one of my PS4s tonight, and if it's DOA, I have another coming from Amazon tomorrow. Since this isn't likely, I'm selling my other one to a coworker for $450 (pays for my gas and tax). Worst case scenario, I eventually sell my refurbished PS4 to a coworker for a bit less than $400. Either way, I think I'm covered insofar as having a working console tonight/tomorrow.
 
Prince Vultan said:
Obvious lies. I've run the numbers and by my estimates there are at LEAST 1080 broken PS4s out there.



If social media was as huge back then, I honestly don't believe we'd have seen an Xbox One.
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I dunno. Everyone seemed to forget the PSN hack/3 weeks offline pretty quick once they got some free games.

Besides facebook was around round the time the RROD started be a serious issue.
 
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