dakkumauji
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Samurai Flamenco 11
So we're going full on Sentai here? I'm down. Totally ready for Monster of the Week action.
So we're going full on Sentai here? I'm down. Totally ready for Monster of the Week action.
Fall 2013 Anime |OT2| The Rise and Fall of Kyoto
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Log Horizon seems much better. I'm on episode six I believe. The pacing seems infinitely better. There seem to be a couple holes/things not explained (Why was the monk dude so obsessed with the little girl? Are the communicators telepathic or voice? Cough cough. Is there a penalty for dying? You mean to tell me no one tried cooking the old fashioned way after they realized everything tasted like garbage?), but it's very neat with characters that serve a purpose besides falling in love with the hero.
Freezasaurus
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Previously, I'd only watched the first episode of the series, and found it pretty boring. But after hearing people talk about it, I gave the rest of it a shot. I caught up on it between yesterday and today. It was actually much more entertaining after the first episode, and shit got amazing with ep 11.
Dude's a creep, communication is telepathic but it's treated very inconsistently, there's no penalty for dying afaik (according to the show anyway) - I don't even know if you drop your gear, and people did try cooking but apparently nobody had sufficient skill level to actually cook anything decent via the real method until Kaicho worked it out since he maxed out chef skill.
cj_iwakura
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Jude in Tales of Xillia being a med student is a nice change of pace, but why not go the full nine and have him be a healer? Maybe too ballsy to have a protagonist be that non-combative.
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Chronologically Stardust Memory takes place after MSG. You may also consider watching The 08th MS Team and War in the Pocket, both of which take place during the events of MSG and are highly regarded.
In terms of production order, Zeta Gundam is next, but 0083: Stardust Memory takes place between MSG and Zeta.
CornBurrito
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Log Horizon 1-9
Since thus far this show lacks a creepy incest sub-plot, poorly written villains, and an awful female love interest, it is undoubtedly better than Sword Art Online. However, with death not being permanent it gets a little hard to care about any battle. Why do people fear being sent to the Cathedral so much exactly? Just store all your shit in the bank and then when you die they can't even take shit off you.
Since thus far this show lacks a creepy incest sub-plot, poorly written villains, and an awful female love interest, it is undoubtedly better than Sword Art Online. However, with death not being permanent it gets a little hard to care about any battle. Why do people fear being sent to the Cathedral so much exactly? Just store all your shit in the bank and then when you die they can't even take shit off you.
Dedication Through Light
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You want a non-combative healer?
That is one of the many things I like, Shiroe not being combat focused. I don't think he's a creep. Corvo would probably hate him or the show though.
cj_iwakura
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Sure, why not?
I had that view to start with, but really...its not like in other shows I really thought the protagonist was in real peril. Of course I never really had much interest in the combat. I'd be just as happy with those excised and me getting more talky scenes.
This will actually get addressed in this arc.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
errr they didnt have time to value your time, you can cut them some slack, well the animators atleast, grief all the animation stuff to the manager of the project
I cooooooooould, but being an asympathetic jerk about how awful that anime turned out seems more in character for me.
Consistency!
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
yeah theres like 3 clip shows at the end of each arc, ironically in this current arc we didnt get any clip show before jumping right in from the last arc
Clip shows blow. You can't skip 'em in Utena, but the only ones I've ever found enjoyable were the ones in Martian Successor Nadesico.
KirbYuuYuu
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Non Non Biyori 11
What a pleasent winter episode.
What a pleasent winter episode.
Kill La Kill 12
That thing we all knew would happen FINALLY happened! Hooray!
Anyway, good episode. Hype mostly justified. I still feel like, pacing-wise, it took too long to get to this point, but the episode itself delivered.
Mako > All
The clip episodes in Utena blew my mind.
That thing we all knew would happen FINALLY happened! Hooray!
I really hope this show doesn't go back to the school fighting again now that we've had this happen.
Anyway, good episode. Hype mostly justified. I still feel like, pacing-wise, it took too long to get to this point, but the episode itself delivered.
Although it might've been even stronger if Ryuko were developed a little more so I felt more afraid for her when she went berserk. Nui's hair being totally different in Ryuko's flashback still bothers me, don't know if that's a plot point or some bizarre oversight.
Ryuko and Satsuki are definitely teaming up at some point to go after the mum.
Ryuko and Satsuki are definitely teaming up at some point to go after the mum.
Mako > All
The clip episodes in Utena blew my mind.
CornBurrito
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Well the protagonist is never in danger. But it would be nice if a side character died. I'm spoiled by shows like Fate/Zero and Madoka I guess.
Yeah, you probably shouldn't hold all shows to Urobutcher-level character murdering.
Sweet.
My solution would've been for players to have lives, and to get more lives you need to spend a shittonne of gold, escalating per extra life you need to buy. Would've made for some direction with the money hording. But I'm interested to see where LH takes it.
CornBurrito
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Yeah, you probably shouldn't hold all shows to Urobutcher-level character murdering.
I know.
Also Shiroe adjusts his glasses too much.
R_thanatos
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Death doesn't erase pain.
And your bank idea doesn't work .
Are you suposed to hunt with your bare hands ? And what about the loot of your hunts , when you're walking back to the city ?
I know.
Also Shiroe adjusts his glasses too much.
He doesn't do it even remotely enough.
I dunno about "adressed" but LH will certainly put things into perspective regarding death .
CornBurrito
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Yes. Switch to the monk class. Didn't pick a monk and can't switch? Serves you right for not picking the monk class.
And yeah death doesn't erase pain, but so what? Characters being in pain doesn't create drama that permanent character death can. I feel like there need to be actual consequences for me to care about what happens to the characters.
Crash Station
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Kill la Kill 12
All I needed to see to cement it as my AOTY.
All I needed to see to cement it as my AOTY.
Well, I would if I cared about that as a consumer. Its the studio's fault for going behind schedule. I won't cut them slack for mismanagement especially for a scene so throwaway and so early in the series. I only see what is presented in front of me and that scene looked like something out of a Macromedia Flash nightmare.
If there is a penalty, I would hope it would be something a little deeper than that. Something not apparent but given enough deaths or time it would reveal itself, since so early on after the apocalypse no one has noticed anything.
What that could be, I don't know. Hopefully something sinister.
Well, this would've been in terms of game mechanics, not in service of story. I'm sure story could be worse.
Kill la Kill 12
This is the episode I've been waiting a long, long time for. Best one yet.
Oh god, what do they have in store for Nui going forward? More than everything else (and the wheels are beginning to move now, so that's a lot), that's what I want to see. Girl is psychotic and terrifying.
This is the episode I've been waiting a long, long time for. Best one yet.
Oh god, what do they have in store for Nui going forward? More than everything else (and the wheels are beginning to move now, so that's a lot), that's what I want to see. Girl is psychotic and terrifying.
R_thanatos
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Why are you looking for drama on that aspect ? They set from the start that death is not an issue to focus on something else. Death is not a problem for adventurers , end of story.. you can create drama in other ways .. THEY WILL DO THAT, they have already in the first arc.
I assume that you're joking with the class switch, who said that you even can do that ?
Even if they can , having everyone turning monks would be a real problem , not only it would be boring , but it wouldn't even make sense.
Pain is much more serious than you seem to think , why do you think that guild in ep 4 managed to reign supreme unchecked , why did nobody say " screw that " and quit ?
Because you can feel pain , even if you HP is not near 0 , meaning that torture is possible , kidnapping , molesting is possible and plenty of other bypass that they have shown since you are at ep 9 already.
Why do you think the beginners don't revolt ?Think they haven't tried ? They have ..
The whole point of the hamelin guild problem is that even if you can't die , there are a lot of ways to inflict physical and mental damage , one of the main reason why shiroe tried to make the round table is that this is an issue BIG ENOUGH that they need strong rules to keep everyone in check.
All your assumptions and questions about the show have been so far anwered by the show already.
Putting your gear in the bank ? So you can suffer during 2+ hours paralysed while your Hp slowing depletes in front of a strong foe and being unable to do anything ? Nice idea
KirbYuuYuu
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Well for starters, we'll have Gamagoori use his ultimate attack in Nui's eye...
Truthfully, Sword Art online did attempt to add some interesting drama/danger to the show by allowing characters to die. However it fully squandered all the potential with literally every other element.
foxuzamaki
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gurren lagann's clipshow was pretty cool and avatar the last airender had a really unique "clip show"
CornBurrito
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Because at worst if Shiroe ever fucks up a plan (does he ever, or is he basically perfect) the worst that happens if everyone gets sent to cathedral and he tries again. Or there might be temporary social consequences. But there does not seem to be such a thing as permanent consequences, which means there really isn't a way for the hero to ever fail meaningfully.
And yes, I get that pain can be a problem for unimportant characters that the hero has to save. But it doesn't make the hero's life dramatic.
KirbYuuYuu
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Aikatsu! 7
For once, Ichigo isn't the one fucking up! I was actually feeling good about that too. I mean I get Ichigo is the lead, but man...
Apparently, Aoi lives by the internet too much, and this episode is telling you that the internet will make you into someone you are not, so that's probably why reading gaming topics is close to reading Youtube comments these days.
The other thing is that JANITOR DUDE is really creepy. I don't know "evil" creepy, I mean stalker creepy.
For once, Ichigo isn't the one fucking up! I was actually feeling good about that too. I mean I get Ichigo is the lead, but man...
Apparently, Aoi lives by the internet too much, and this episode is telling you that the internet will make you into someone you are not, so that's probably why reading gaming topics is close to reading Youtube comments these days.
The other thing is that JANITOR DUDE is really creepy. I don't know "evil" creepy, I mean stalker creepy.
Save 'N Quit
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Infinite Stratos S2 12
What a weak final episode.
I'm just left exasperated after a finale that included mediocre fights, a stupid conflict involving a bomb on a train, a really apparent and almost confusing skipped scene with Houki, censoring (White blood? Seriously?), and a completely pointless hot spring hijinks to end the show.
Don't even know why they have Big Sis Russia in the ending. She may like him in the LN, but nothing really happened between them after Kanzashi was included.
And now that the season is over, all I'm left with is disappointment and hate over how evidently lazy S2 was made.
I hate how everything from the animation to the characters looked low quality, with the minimalist of effort made. I hate how the majority of the filler episodes were shit (Charl panties/Cecilia cooking) and would make Studio Pierrot's look like masterpieces. I hate how badly the fight scenes were done. I never even gave a damn about the fights back in S1, but I'm pretty sure they weren't this awful. I still hate Ichika for being one of the densest leads of all time. I hate how they made all the girls in the harem even stupider. I even hate how they actually made me feel sorry for Rin over how completely screwed she was this season.
You know what I did like? Tatenashi. She was a refreshing change of pace during the early half of the season and it became really evident how the quality of the show declined after her screentime disappeared. I liked my Chifuyu and Houki scenes as well, but everyone becomes excited when their favorite girls appears. Also, I do think episodes 1 & 5 were the best and anyone wanting to watch this season should save themselves the trouble and just watch those two episodes.
Final Girl Ranking
Chifuyu > Houki = Tatenashi > Charl > Laura > Kanzashi > Maya > Rin > Cecilia
4/10 Subpar. If Japan has any taste at all, Volume 2 will bomb and a S3 will not be made.
astrogamer
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Samurai Flamenco 11
Going the full sentai route is interesting. I like the sequences introducing the monsters now.
Going the full sentai route is interesting. I like the sequences introducing the monsters now.
KirbYuuYuu
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subs! subs pls!
ZachDeKoromaru
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Russia's an official harem member now? RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIP.
Kill la Kill 12
A bit disappointed by how the battle ended. I wanted
At least Mako, as usual, did something awesome and amazing. She's able to bring even lackluster episodes out of their mediocrity and into awesome territory.
/bow based Mako.
A bit disappointed by how the battle ended. I wanted
Nui to get bitchslapped some, instead Matoi is the one that was badly hurt.
/bow based Mako.
Ice Lightning
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Valvrave 23
Figured Yamada Thunder would be the next to go. Wish he could have taken Q-vier with him. Looks like Unit II will finally be shown for the season finale.
Hellsing321
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People asking for cheap "If we die in the game we die in real life!" consequences for Log Horizon? smh
I think people just want a consequence period.
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