Study Finds White Americans Believe They Experience More Racism Than Black Americans

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Someone was probably thinking: "First our jobs... now our privilege... what's next?!"

This reminds me of the Genocide of the White Race video which I couldn't find but I found this gem <3
 
Survey means little to me unless someone replicates it and I know the number of people surveyed and the method used. Was the survey done with people only from a certain area? This is a typical media article on a poll that does not give enough information to make a strong argument about anything. If you are not going straight to the source a true judgement on the research is impossible to make.
 
You're asking me to feel guilty about something I have zero control over.

You don't have to feel guilty. I'm white. I don't feel guilty in the slightest. What I do is advocate for racial justice. That means trying to get people like you to agree (1) that there is a problem; and (2) to help fix it the best we can.

That's probably why there was no guilt attached to option C.
 
Being disliked over history and Racism are two different things.

There is no model in place where black people strive to limit the success of white people,

We all need a grip.
 
You know what I hate? Going into a job interview for a valuable position at top companies and being the only not white candidate in the waiting area (and sometimes the only not white male, sorry ladies, it still sucks for you as well!). It's just incredibly anxiety inducing for me.

Things aren't bad for asian americans so I wonder how they'd correlate into a study like this, but these results freak me out quite a bit.
 
I hear that sentiment a lot from certain people I know. I just keep my mouth shut because there is no arguing with that kind of ignorance.
 
..... white people. This is why things will never get better. Blacks have gone through 500+ yrs of barbaric horrors just to even try to be seen as equals. Still not equals, now whites are the victims. You win America.
 
I keep saying that race issues are getting worse, not better. We're seeing the death throws of an entitled race that realizes their time is coming to a close. That's not to disrespect all white people, nor do I think "all" white people in the US are racist. But there's definitely a brewing resentment and continued entitlement complex at work here. We see it in politics, with conservatives utterly shocked at the 2012 election results and the dwindling importance of the white vote. We see it in the general reaction to stuff like the Trayvon Martin situation, and the outright dismissal many white people had at the notion that there was any racial aspect to the case, why Trayvon was followed, etc.

Reverse racism isn't some joke that republicans play, it's a real sentiment of a lot of white people. The idea being that diversity is somehow limiting white opportunity, and the only way to combat it is to fight back by hiring white people, promoting white people, etc; why give a Hispanic person a job when you can give one to the white guy he surpassed due to quotas or affirmative action.

I'd rather deal with someone who could burn a cross in my lawn than someone who can hide behind a desk and fuck my career/opportunity while smiling.
 
I googled this story and apparently the article came out in May 2011? Why is this just now being reported by this site?

From the site's about page:

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This is an interesting study. Incidentally the group of white friends I have mixed contact feels this way as well.
 
Yeesh...

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I googled this story and apparently the article came out in May 2011? Why is this just now being reported by this site?

I didn't realize gaf had one of the survey takers then.

You guys may not realize it, but it is true that minorities have much better opportunities on finding jobs these days. White guilt is a real thing, we as men can't escape it wherever we go. Even though most of the white population doesn't give a rats ass about whether someone is black, yellow or somewhere in between, we keep being punished and set aside by radical feminists and other terribly frustrated people with no self respect. Positive discrimination is just as bad as normal discrimination. You can't argue about that. Every upside has just as many downsides when it comes to these kind of rules.

Also, it is a bad thing that women aren't treated as equals anymore, but instead are put on a pedestal. Laws are still incredibly kind when it is the women who committed a crime, and almost every divorce these days ends in favor of the woman. My father deals a lot with these cases with his job, and in his experience women have it so much easier with the law than men, in all aspects of life.

And it doesn't end here. Last week, the EU (or rather, a small group of undemocraticly chosen woman and men) agreed that 40% of people working in the top of businesses have to be women. This really annoys me. The Glass Ceiling is bullshit. I did all kinds of research on it, and terms like 'Old Boys Network', the foundation of the Glass Ceiling theory, are not real anymore. And now, with this new law, any women aiming for a top job in their company will have 20 or 30 times as much a chance as men.

And there is so much more. For example, if you look at dating nowadays, it is clear that most women end up riding the cock carrousel, and a lot of young men end up depressed and alone. I have seen some statistics saying that 20% of the men get 80% the sex of women. Let that sink in for a moment (I'll look for the source if you don't believe me). I'm definitely not a misogynist or racist (I was raised with the belief that everyone is equal), and I may sound kind of harsh or bitter, but In all honesty, the situation is really fucked up. We should be having gender equality in all areas of life, not legislation that promotes the chances of any minority over the 'majority' (white men).
 
Everybody wants to be a victim. Pretty ludicrous. I'm not white, so obviously I don't empathize with white people thinking they have any idea what it's like to deal with this shit from the day you are born. But I'm also a male, and I realize I have it a lot better in some basic ways. I can, for example, walk down the block at night without feeling absolutely terrified.

So I won on that front. I don't have that urge to join up with a bunch of sad MRA people and march around. I admit that I have it better.

Feeling persecuted is a useful, easy way for us white people to avoid feeling guilty.
 
LOL...well it is a bit hard in college when your ancestors were by and large ALWAYS the bad guys :\ I dont worry about it too much because I had nothing to do with whatever atrocities my ancestors did
 
I'm not American, and I guess I don't understand America as well as I thought, because this study is very hard to understand. I have a question, though: do white Americans generally feel that black Americans are respectful towards them personally, or rude, generally speaking? I mean, it would hardly be surprising if a lot of blacks were bitter about their situation and took it out on anyone white, although I have no idea if that's really the case.
 
You don't have to feel guilty. I'm white. I don't feel guilty in the slightest. What I do is advocate for racial justice. That means trying to get people like you to agree (1) that there is a problem; and (2) to help fix it the best we can.

That's probably why there was no guilt attached to option C.

Got it in one.
 
Living in Upper Manhattan, in a largely Dominican neighbourhood, I can definitely agree with the sentiment expressed in the thread title. Haven't read the article.
 
Survey means little to me unless someone replicates it and I know the number of people surveyed and the method used. Was the survey done with people only from a certain area? This is a typical media article on a poll that does not give enough information to make a strong argument about anything. If you are not going straight to the source a true judgement on the research is impossible to make.

I googled this story and apparently the article came out in May 2011? Why is this just now being reported by this site?

Hello. The only realistic posts in here, the thread should be locked due to spreading bullshit.
 
Really ridiculous of course, but its fairly normal for people of any origin to always feel *they* are the persecuted ones.

I do think that anti-white racism is more common than people realize, though. I've been jumped for being white, I've been called 'cracker' in a disparaging way quite a few times, I'm pretty sure I was suspended from school because my black vice principal took the word of one black girl over the word of half a dozen other classmates who vouched for me in a 'fish-killing' incident. Again, I'm sure most black people experience worse than this, but when you're a decent person yourself and you experience this sort of thing, its hard to feel you're not the one being persecuted.

Very good point.
 

eh, I'm 21 and I can honestly say that I don't remember a single instance where I was discriminated against for being white, to my knowledge. Shouldn't be too surprising.

You don't have to feel guilty. I'm white. I don't feel guilty in the slightest. What I do is advocate for racial justice. That means trying to get people like you to agree (1) that there is a problem; and (2) to help fix it the best we can.

That's probably why there was no guilt attached to option C.

Yeah, that's pretty much how I feel about it. I'm indifferent to being white. I don't see why anyone would have to feel guilty about it unless you realize your privilege but refuse to help level the playing field, or worse actively fight to maintain that privilege.
 
eh, I'm 21 and I can honestly say that I don't remember a single instance where I was discriminated against for being white, to my knowledge. Shouldn't be too surprising.

As a privileged white male, I feel discriminated against often. My black friends call me a word I cannot say on NeoGAF and is usually only said by black people when addressing other black people. White people say it all the time though, while listening to rap and no black people are around to hear it. I know because I do it. I like rapping along and feel bad afterwards.
 
Yup. Had a friend telling me tonight that she was denied financial aid and stuff because she was white and had some money in the family.

I almost considered breaking contact with the person.
 
Welcome to the Opression Olympics! Let's now enjoy the glorious "tolerant" society that political correction has built for all of us.
 
Welcome to the Opression Olympics! Let's now enjoy the glorious "tolerant" society that political correction has built for all of us.

That's... not how that works.

As has been said repeatedly, the dominant group feels like power is being taken from them as the oppressed class is brought up. It is factual that whites as a race do not experience the same level of casual nor systemic racism that blacks face.

Oppression Olympics, meaningless as they are requires two groups that are actually oppressed - white people do not fit that bill.
 
That's... not how that works.

As has been said repeatedly, the dominant group feels like power is being taken from them as the oppressed class is brought up. It is factual that whites as a race do not experience the same level of casual nor systemic racism that blacks face.

Oppression Olympics, meaningless as they are requires two groups that are actually oppressed - white people do not fit that bill.

Opression Olympics just need you to belong into a special minority for gaining a sense of grievance and alienation since you are "not like the majority of people" and start playing identity politics riding into that retarded teenager feeling.

Whites in the US are becoming one minority in due to demographic changes, and thus, their "minoritation" process has begun, which have granted them (well, they have granted theirselves) a ticket into Opression Olympics and the whole "our tribe is such a special bunch of snowflakes with our very own special and unique problems and struggles that set us appart from the rest of mankind" type of discourse that it is so appealing to narcissists everywhere.

Yes, it is stupid, meaningless and it makes no sense or whatsoever like pretty much everything regarding collective identities, but I never said it otherwise.
 
Guys please understand, we're just missing the times where we won everything in history. Now that we can't genocide populations anymore because of values we ourselves invented, the other inferior cultures that had to be colonized by us to understand what progress even is are getting a bit cocky, but there's no one else to blame but ourselves.
 
Opression Olympics just need you to belong into a special minority for gaining a sense of grievance and alienation since you are "not like the majority of people" and start playing identity politics riding into that retarded teenager feeling.

Whites in the US are becoming one minority in due to demographic changes, and thus, their "minoritation" process has begun, which have granted them (well, they have granted theirselves) a ticket into Opression Olympics and the whole "our tribe is such a special bunch of snowflakes with our very own special and unique problems and struggles that set us appart from the rest of mankind" type of discourse that it is so appealing to narcissists everywhere.

Yes, it is stupid, meaningless and it makes no sense or whatsoever like pretty much everything regarding collective identities, but I never said it otherwise.

I'm sure my ancestors loved being told they couldn't drink from certain fountains. Made them feel special, I'm sure.
 
Guys please understand, we're just missing the times where we won everything in history. Now that we can't genocide populations anymore because of values we ourselves invented, the other inferior cultures that had to be colonized by us to understand what progress even is are getting a bit cocky, but there's no one else to blame but ourselves.

I hope this is just some facetious humor, because if not I find this to be kind of racist.
 
Opression Olympics just need you to belong into a special minority for gaining a sense of grievance and alienation since you are "not like the majority of people" and start playing identity politics riding into that retarded teenager feeling.

Whites in the US are becoming one minority in due to demographic changes, and thus, their "minoritation" process has begun, which have granted them (well, they have granted theirselves) a ticket into Opression Olympics and the whole "our tribe is such a special bunch of snowflakes with our very own special and unique problems and struggles that set us appart from the rest of mankind" type of discourse that it is so appealing to narcissists everywhere.

Yes, it is stupid, meaningless and it makes no sense or whatsoever like pretty much everything regarding collective identities, but I never said it otherwise.

Nope. See, I believe that this mentality is the same one that leads to questions like "why can't we have a white culture club?" It's a misunderstanding of why these groups exist in the first place. On the basic level, there are two reasons:

1) To provide a safe haven from discrimination throughout society
2) To preserve one's culture in a society that doesn't necessarily support it

White culture groups don't fit either of those bills, as Western culture largely revolves around white people.

To respond to you more directly:

Opression Olympics just need you to belong into a special minority for gaining a sense of grievance and alienation since you are "not like the majority of people" and start playing identity politics riding into that retarded teenager feeling.

This is not true.

Whites in the US are becoming one minority in due to demographic changes, and thus, their "minoritation" process has begun, which have granted them (well, they have granted theirselves) a ticket into Opression Olympics and the whole "our tribe is such a special bunch of snowflakes with our very own special and unique problems and struggles that set us appart from the rest of mankind" type of discourse that it is so appealing to narcissists everywhere.

This does not matter, as a) whites are not yet a minority, and b) it doesn't matter if they were, as long as the culture continues to serve white people as it does today.
 
I live in Birmingham, which is about as multi-cultural as you can get in England. Anti-white racism occurs a lot, I've experienced it a few times myself. Anti-white racism exists but to say it happens more than anything else? Ludicrous.
 
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