Study Finds White Americans Believe They Experience More Racism Than Black Americans

Status
Not open for further replies.
S

sixteen-bit

Member
Saw this on my twitter feed

There’s a saying that “the new racism is to deny that racism exists.” If that is the case, it may explain a study conducted by researchers from Tufts University’s School of Arts and Sciences and Harvard Business School. Their findings claim that self-described white Americans believe they have “replaced blacks” as the primary victims of racial discrimination in contemporary America.

The authors say that their study highlights how the expectations of a “post-racial” society, predicted or imagined in the wake of Barack Obama’s presidency, has far from been achieved.

The study finds that while both Caucasian and African Americans agree that anti-black racism has decreased over the last 60 years, whites believe that anti-white racism has increased. Moreover, the study finds that the majority of Caucasians believe that anti-white racism is a “bigger problem” than what African Americans face.
Click to expand...

Source: http://politicalblindspot.com/study...xperience-more-racism-than-african-americans/
 
chris-rock-huh-face.gif
 
Oh man, that chart in the study. Supposedly we've been living in a society that is dominantly racist against white people for near 20 years now.
 
Alright, now I'm just embarrassed to be white. I've never experienced "anti-white" racism in my life, stop being such stupid little pricks.
 
Rofl. Study should've also concluded that these specific white Americans are delusional and out of their god damn minds.
 
Dat white guilt

Why can't I have a White Entertainment Television?

Where's my NAAWP?

Why can't my school have a white student union?

When is affirmative action going to get me a job I don't deserve?
 
There's a couple of discrimination threads active on this very forum where white people are acting like victims, so I can totally believe that.
 
Basically, a lot of whites feel like since they weren't apart of the era of slavery or segregation, they shouldn't be lumped in as being responsible. And since most of them have grown up in sheltered areas where they don't experience racism (or don't feel they are racist), they feel they are being victimized now. There is also a shallow view that people should just move forward. That anyone born from the 80s on up have a clean slate etc and your own woes is your own fault.

Or something like that. I can't tell you how many times I've heard people say stuff like that.
 
Knowing how my best friend goes to Tyler Perry movies and then gets upset that they sometimes have white people jokes, its not surprising to me.

Hell, I'm an Asian guy and everyone loves us right? I always feel like we're getting trampled on and stereotyped constantly and the overall feeling is that I feel like society condones and encourages it. It's very likely its really a figment of my imagination, but you feel what you feel.
 
Azula said:
Basically, a lot of whites feel like since they weren't apart of the era of slavery or segregation, they shouldn't be lumped in as being responsible. And since most of them have grown up in sheltered areas where they don't experience racism (or don't feel they are racist), they feel they are being victimized now. There is also a shallow view that people should just move forward. That anyone born from the 80s on up have a clean slate etc.

Or something like that. I can't tell you how many times I've heard people say stuff like that.
Click to expand...

You're pretty much right. Hell, look at a lot of race threads here on GAF over the years (especially 2012 with the voter disenfranchisement) and you'll see just this.
 
Really ridiculous of course, but its fairly normal for people of any origin to always feel *they* are the persecuted ones.

I do think that anti-white racism is more common than people realize, though. I've been jumped for being white, I've been called 'cracker' in a disparaging way quite a few times, I'm pretty sure I was suspended from school because my black vice principal took the word of one black girl over the word of half a dozen other classmates who vouched for me in a 'fish-killing' incident. Again, I'm sure most black people experience worse than this, but when you're a decent person yourself and you experience this sort of thing, its hard to feel you're not the one being persecuted.
 
Wait a second ...

Moreover, the study finds that the majority of Caucasians believe that anti-white racism is a “bigger problem” than what African Americans face.
Click to expand...

Uh ... duh?

Chinese - Japanese - Korean racism isn't even on my radar. I can't imagine African American racism being a pertinent problem in the life of a Caucasian person, just, naturally.
 
I'm not surprised. Many, including some on these boards, just don't have any awareness of systemic and institutional forms of racism and its pervasiveness in everything from education, law enforcement, hiring, etc, and the generation-to-generation advantages enjoyed by certain whites.

A white person hears "affirmative action" and he thinks a throng of dumb, undeserving minorities is coming to take what belongs to him. Hears Sharpton bitching on TV and thinks his life has taken a turn for the worse. The mere act of talking about race-related issues equals BAD. Normalcy means status quo and stop talking about the discrimination they don't see or experience.
 
http://whatever.scalzi.com/2012/05/15/straight-white-male-the-lowest-difficulty-setting-there-is/

Okay: In the role playing game known as The Real World, “Straight White Male” is the lowest difficulty setting there is.

This means that the default behaviors for almost all the non-player characters in the game are easier on you than they would be otherwise. The default barriers for completions of quests are lower. Your leveling-up thresholds come more quickly. You automatically gain entry to some parts of the map that others have to work for. The game is easier to play, automatically, and when you need help, by default it’s easier to get.
Click to expand...

Just lol.
 
I sometimes wish that there was a way to put people into a hyper-real simulation so they can get a feel of what real racism felt like in order to provide some perspective in their world. Same with child-birth.
 
Seanspeed said:
Really ridiculous of course, but its fairly normal for people of any origin to always feel *they* are the persecuted ones.

I do think that anti-white racism is more common than people realize, though. I've been jumped for being white, I've been called 'cracker' in a disparaging way quite a few times, I'm pretty sure I was suspended from school because my black vice principal took the word of one black girl over the word of half a dozen other classmates who vouched for me in a 'fish-killing' incident. Again, I'm sure most black people experience worse than this, but when you're a decent person yourself and you experience this sort of thing, its hard to feel you're not the one being persecuted.
Click to expand...

It's true. From an individual's perspective, a couple of bad experiences can certainly shape your view on anti-white racism.
 
The study finds that while both Caucasian and African Americans agree that anti-black racism has decreased over the last 60 years, whites believe that anti-white racism has increased. Moreover, the study finds that the majority of Caucasians believe that anti-white racism is a “bigger problem” than what African Americans face.
Click to expand...

But white people don't have to worry about their race at all. They're the norm on TV and in movies. You most often see white movies / TV with a token black character, not black movies / TV with a token white character. White-ness never "a factor" when applying to a job / university. If they commit a criminal action or dress a certain way, it isn't "representative of their race."

They don't have to worry about unjust police snarkiness / brutality based on "profiles of criminals" or women clutching their purses as they walk by. They didn't experience slavery and legal persecution for hundreds of years.

I don't see how the two are similar at all.
 
[...]
The study was conducted by Sommers and co-author Michael I. Norton of Harvard asking a roughly equal national sample of 209 Caucasians and 208 African Americans to indicate, on a scale of 1 to 10, the extent to which they felt blacks and whites were the targets of discrimination in decades spanning from the 1950s to the 2000s. The scale’s ranking of 1 indicated “not at all” while 10 indicates “very much.”
[...]​

Yeah, that's not enough people for this kind of survey.
 
Are these people that have failed or have stumbled despite being the majority in every part of American society since its creation? Born white in America + failed = must be racism.
 
lednerg said:
[...]
The study was conducted by Sommers and co-author Michael I. Norton of Harvard asking a roughly equal national sample of 209 Caucasians and 208 African Americans to indicate, on a scale of 1 to 10, the extent to which they felt blacks and whites were the targets of discrimination in decades spanning from the 1950s to the 2000s. The scale’s ranking of 1 indicated “not at all” while 10 indicates “very much.”
[...]​

Yeah, that's not enough people for this kind of survey.
Click to expand...
Statistics, how do they work.
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
lednerg said:
[...]
The study was conducted by Sommers and co-author Michael I. Norton of Harvard asking a roughly equal national sample of 209 Caucasians and 208 African Americans to indicate, on a scale of 1 to 10, the extent to which they felt blacks and whites were the targets of discrimination in decades spanning from the 1950s to the 2000s. The scale’s ranking of 1 indicated “not at all” while 10 indicates “very much.”
[...]​

Yeah, that's not enough people for this kind of survey.
Click to expand...

This.

I know we are having fun being riled up but a sample size that small isn't really worth talking about.
 
Seanspeed said:
Really ridiculous of course, but its fairly normal for people of any origin to always feel *they* are the persecuted ones.

I do think that anti-white racism is more common than people realize, though. I've been jumped for being white, I've been called 'cracker' in a disparaging way quite a few times, I'm pretty sure I was suspended from school because my black vice principal took the word of one black girl over the word of half a dozen other classmates who vouched for me in a 'fish-killing' incident. Again, I'm sure most black people experience worse than this, but when you're a decent person yourself and you experience this sort of thing, its hard to feel you're not the one being persecuted.
Click to expand...

I get what you're saying and I wouldn't suggest that you've never been the target of racism. But the difference is the sheer volume that black folks (and really, every other minority faces) in comparison. Not just in terms of the number of people but more specifically, the number of occurrences. The things you are describing are the times you've experienced it throughout your life. Many minority individuals will likely experience that much in a month or in some cases, a week.
 
Look this is clearly ridiculous. But, I think one thing we can agree on is that the trends are going in opposite directions. Hating on white people is going up while hating on black people is definitely going down. Still its like 1->10 vs 10,000 ->9,000
 
Seanspeed said:
Really ridiculous of course, but its fairly normal for people of any origin to always feel *they* are the persecuted ones.

I do think that anti-white racism is more common than people realize, though. I've been jumped for being white, I've been called 'cracker' in a disparaging way quite a few times, I'm pretty sure I was suspended from school because my black vice principal took the word of one black girl over the word of half a dozen other classmates who vouched for me in a 'fish-killing' incident. Again, I'm sure most black people experience worse than this, but when you're a decent person yourself and you experience this sort of thing, its hard to feel you're not the one being persecuted.
Click to expand...

I agree with you to an extent. The problem is, people have no sympathy for you if you experience racism if you are white, and its downplayed. Whites have more advantages, and don't experience racism to the same level as minorities (not even close to the same levels). But it doesn't mean racism is ever acceptable just because you are in the majority. It's the whole "boo hoo cry me a river" response.

Racism is bad period. Regardless of skin color. It kind of reminds me of the response men get when they are sexually assaulted. It's not treated the same way. Basically, I don't think any form of racism should be excusable or downplayed.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

  • Locked
I just want to thank you, Americans
1
757
Digital-Aftertaste replied
Study finds men eat more meat than women
2
64
4K
John Bilbo replied
  • Locked
Happy Election Day, fellow Americans!
2
2K
EviLore replied
More hype than you expected.
34
1K
MaestroMike replied
[Reuters] More than a billion people worldwide are obese, WHO study finds
News  2 3
125
7K
Mistake replied
Top Bottom