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Monitoring the situation in Iran
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Gp1
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Well... Trump was on spot about this one.
EuroNATO should at least hold itself without the US in case of a an aggression. And Russia is showing its claws for quiet some time now.
Poland, after being beaten and "occupied" for "50" years, has been rearming itself way before it was "cool" for his Euro friends.
But the 39 part in 2039 was a bit too much cabalistic for my taste
Bojji
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Well... Trump was on spot about this one.
EuroNATO should at least hold itself without the US in case of a an aggression. And Russia is showing its claws for quiet some time now.
Poland, after being beaten and "occupied" for "50" years, has been rearming itself way before it was "cool" for his Euro friends.
But the 39 part in 2039 was a bit too much cabalistic for my taste
Yeah, that 39 date doesn't vibe with me well, hahaha.
Germany was also one of the biggest friends of Russia before Ukraine war (their top politicians got bags of money from Kremlin and later - corporate jobs), I don't think Poland can ever 100% trust them.
But still, part of EU/NATO that borders Russia needs to have strong military. I doubt Russia will attack NATO but old men with big ambitions are unpredictable...
lachesis
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I hear only Vahidi is allowed to see and talk to Mojtaba and he relays out the orders.
Basically Vahidi is now the acting Supreme Leader - it's pretty apparent that G.ayatollah is either dead or brain dead - not making public appearance or even speech like 2 months.
IRGC will try to hide the fact, but also figure out the way to take the power to themselves under the excuse of US invasion, I suspect...
Meicyn
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Funny you say that...
Our baby junta has now reached toddler status! We'll likely have a proper, fully grown military junta in a few more weeks.
Wildebeest
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Regime change is complete in Iran, another win for white house.
DenchDeckard
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yoooooo! Is there a sniff of a chance there could be a regime change happening in the near future, here?
that would be amazing
that would be amazing
ChuckeRearmed
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Iranian regime is falling apart already. You essentially have an IRGC coup that has been done after the death of Ayatollah.
Gp1
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Lithuania, Latvia etc?
Not so "unsure"
Laughing in Brazilian Ethanol with a meager 7.5% increase...
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Hero of Spielberg
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poppabk
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It seems it's not so much falling apart but consolidating around the IRGC.
Three more weeks? We can't have this double blockade of Hormuz linger indefinitely without any urgency to fix it. This is not an acceptable status quo just because there's not active fighting going on and stock the market is high this week. We're baking in considerable long-term economic damage, primarily inflation.
Trump needs to quit procrastinating and make a decision. It's like he has analysis paralysis or something.
Trump needs to quit procrastinating and make a decision. It's like he has analysis paralysis or something.
Wilhelm_85
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Bullshit arrest. Dude had to risk his life to make the operation happen. Nothing like "insider trading" that members of Congress completely get away with their entire careers.
Dirk Benedict
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Yeah. That is basically why I don't care because congress gets a fucking way with murder with regards to insider trading.
BlackTron
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The thing about polymarket though, is that a large sum of money for a bet is a big hint to predict it might happen, which could be seen as a leak of classified info. If you were worried about US special forces getting you, you could just start watching the markets and know when to hit the bunker!
I am going to France in a couple of months maybe and I'm asking my wife what the plan is if we can fly there but not fly back.
I say maybe also due to if there is fuel.
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DenchDeckard
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Catch the small guys to make it look like you are doing something.
Imagine what others, higher up have made from all this.
LQX
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The sad part is this is the "little guy", an easy scapegoat though it is still fucked up. They need to find out who in the Pentagon and or the Oval Office next to the president is dropping millions into the stock market and timing it perfectly based on what the President will say on social media a few minutes later.
DenchDeckard
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For how much he lies, I'll take this as that he is under considerable pressure to end the war.
Trilobit
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USA is not a serious country. Journeys across the world to pick a fight and is now upset that unrelated countries don't want to save them from their retarded decisions smh
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DenchDeckard
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USA is not a serious country. Journeys across the world to pick a fight and is now upset that unrelated countries don't want to save them from their retarded decisions smh
Timesofisrael.com
This has to be fake, surely?
Unknown Soldier
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The clock is ticking, Iran. Tick tock. Iran will certainly not voluntarily allow their oil production to be "shut-in", so whatever's going to happen, it will happen soon
Considering his poll numbers are the lowest going into midterms since Bush (funnily enough, for very similar reasons), you'd imagine he's getting a lot of pressure from his entire party to get out of there.
Bojji
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In 2026? It's more likely than unlikely.
winjer
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Considering the current US Administration, it might be real.
But it would also be the thing that would kill NATO. EU countries would never accept Spain to be kicked out and that there would be punishment for European countries, for not joining a war started by the USA without consulting any NATO members.
There is no process to remove a country from NATO, so this is impossible. I guess the US could announce they would not intervene if Spain were to be attacked, refuse to hold joint drills, stuff like that. Performative only unless it were to be maintained in the long term by following administrations (doubtful)
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winjer
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But that would also be counter to NATO's rules. It is a defensive group, that only activates when a member is attacked.
BlackTron
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Seems messed up enough to be true. We've been openly flirting with this a long time and now it's here.
The end of U.S. hegemony is here, we're just in denial and don't know it yet.
winjer
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The current NATO spending minimum is still 2%. It will only rise to 5% in 2035. Though Spain is still bellow both.
But the reason why there is this rumor about kicking out Spain is not due to it's spending, it's due to not allowing the USA to use Spanish bases to support the war in Iran.
thefool
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That does not address the issue, they have resisted and asked for an opt out.
If they don't want to commit with the 5% plan, they are getting kicked out.
Spain being in cahoots with enemies of the west is also a major issue in the alliance and hopefully it will be addressed.
winjer
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Spain is not in cahoots with enemies of the west. They just don't want to get involved in another forever war created by the USA. Truth be told, no one wants that and that is why no one has joined in, be it from the EU or other regions of the globe.
The country that is in cahoots with enemies of the west is the current US administration, that is supporting Russian against Ukraine.
Russia, which is a declared ally of Iran. Who is supplying satellite Intel and military assistance.
Baemono
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Bojji
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Spain had no obligation to help USA in this war, and it wasn't related to NATO in any way.
Beef is just between two countries here.
thefool
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You keep not addressing my post and now you're just spewing liberal propaganda.
I'll quote it again in case you have trouble reading:
Baemono
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winjer
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I already did. Try reading something for once.
thefool
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You didn't. The alliance decided to commit 5% at the hague summit, spain asked for the opt out of the plan. This is the fact that you are trying to avoid. The deadlines are part of the plan spain asked to opt out.
Read before you reply or else it feels i'm replying to a bot
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winjer
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The statures of NATO are not "liberal propaganda".
That commitment is merely political, not enforced by law or any NATO stature.
And NATO does not have mechanisms to expel a country from it's ranks, much less for something that is not a binding law.
Bojji
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You didn't. The alliance decided to commit 5% at the hague summit, spain asked for the opt out of the plan. This is the fact that you are trying to avoid. The deadlines are part of the plan spain asked to opt out.
Read before you reply or else it feels i'm replying to a bot
Spain is fucking up not commiting to that and I think not allowing USA to use bases was totally unnecessary.
But it still doesn't mean they should be kicked out of NATO for that, Iran war is not related in any way with what NATO represents.
Baemono
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I had a look (you had a conversation with Winjer, not me), and indeed Spain doesn't want to spend up to 5% as requested by Trump.
Read before you reply or else it feels i'm replying to a bot
You feel like replying to a bot, while quoting a bot ?
And why are you talking about "leftist discourse" ? It's the US wanting other countries to spend more, and Spain saying no. There is no left or right here.
Bojji
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Obama wanted bigger commitments as well. This is USA policy for quite some time.
winjer
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Probably to increase sales to the US military industrial complex.
Funny thing is that with Trump threatening Europe countries, most have canceled contracts for US purchases and are instead buying European.
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