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[Lasthope106]

LOL - I went into the finale thinking that is was going to be a complete turd after seeing the reactions of people here since yesterday. I for one actually enjoyed the episode, and how it ended. The build up was great, and not knowing where or when it was going to come was fantastic.

I thought I was over this show after all the filler episodes this last half season, but this finale has won me back. Now I need to see next season.

 

[Kickz]

Great episode that was ruined by a ending thats endemic to what I feel is constantly wrong with this show. Which is needlessly drawing out scenarios like many have said before showing who neagan killed would of been 10x more effective than what they went with. I honestly would not be suprised if season 7 is focussed on Alexandria and we dont even find out who neagan killed until 702. On the plus side gta dude was awesome and andrew lincoln was great in this episode also they seem to have nailed neagans casting.

Also Ill sacrifice ANYONE to save Eugene and Abraham.

Goddamnit, looking at this again, its definitely one of them...

 

[Megalosaro]

LOL - I went into the finale thinking that is was going to be a complete turd after seeing the reactions of people here since yesterday. I for one actually enjoyed the episode, and how it ended. The build up was great, and not knowing where or when it was going to come was fantastic.

I thought I was over this show after all the filler episodes this last half season, but this finale has won me back. Now I need to see next season.

I saw it live and thought it was an amazing episode, some of the Morgan stuff and the VERY last shot not withstanding. I'd say an 8.5 with those taken into consideration.

The way they built the tension over the episode was masterful, and the acting was ON POINT. This may be one of the best episodes they've actually made. That people are trashing the entire episode because of the very last scene is sad, because otherwise it was great.

That last moment WAS pretty bad though. It was enough to bump it from a solid A to a B. Sucks... But poeple calling for Gimple to be fired are stupid. He's the best thing to happen to this show. It wasn't until he came on that it actually started becoming decent. Season 1, first episode not withstanding, was pretty bad. Season 2 was even worse. There was signs of hope in season 3, but was mostly mediocre. Season 4 was better, but not great. Season 5 was pretty good. And now we're here. Season 6 was pretty good too. Definitely turning things around.

The fact that the show was given so long to gain it's footing is something else.

 

[dustyherb]

Abraham's line when they saw the logs in the road and knew how fucked they were was perfect.

"What it indicates is we are neck-deep up shit creek with our mouths wide open."

God I really hope he doesn't die

 

[RatskyWatsky]

For those of you planning on watching Fear the Walking Dead season 2, the OT is now up~

 

[NYR]

For those of you planning on watching Fear the Walking Dead season 2, the OT is now up~

lol, this says it all:

Episode 1: 10.1 million viewers and a 4.9 A18-49 rating
Episode 2: 8.2 million viewers and a 4.1 A18-49 rating
Episode 3: 7.2 million viewers and a 3.6 A18-49 rating
Episode 4: 6.6 million viewers and a 3.3 A18-49 rating
Episode 5: 6.7 million viewers and a 3.4 A18-49 rating
Episode 6: 6.9 million viewers and a 3.4 A18-49 rating

 

[Soyongdori]

lol, this says it all:

Episode 1: 10.1 million viewers and a 4.9 A18-49 rating
Episode 2: 8.2 million viewers and a 4.1 A18-49 rating
Episode 3: 7.2 million viewers and a 3.6 A18-49 rating
Episode 4: 6.6 million viewers and a 3.3 A18-49 rating
Episode 5: 6.7 million viewers and a 3.4 A18-49 rating
Episode 6: 6.9 million viewers and a 3.4 A18-49 rating

I don't see this show surviving past season 3.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

It was the highest rated first season of any show in the history of cable TV. It's going to be on the air for years to come.

EDIT: To compare, season 1 of TWD averaged 5.2 million per episode; season 2 averaged 6.9 million; Fear the Walking Dead's season one average was 7.6 million.

 

[mattiewheels]

Those aren't bad numbers at all.

I don't know anything about Fear other than that it exists. What's it's angle?

 

[bidguy]

Those aren't bad numbers at all.

I don't know anything about Fear other than that it exists. What's it's angle?

it started as walking dead in the city but now they are on sea idk

 

[LegendofDragoonLives]

Inspired by a suggestion in this thread, I took some other recent shocking TV moments and brought them up to the Walking Dead team's lofty standards. I think we're on to something here!

Warning: Contains pseudo-spoilers for Game of Thrones, Dexter, Hannibal, Breaking Bad, and True Detective. If you haven't seen those, don't watch. Also, what's wrong with you? Go watch them!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HgiVPTc2xw

Amazing. That's the exact tier of garbage ending that the season finale is apart of.

 

[LQX]

Goddamnit, looking at this again, its definitely one of them...

Of course it is one of them. They do not have the balls to kill anyone else from the main cast. Too bad we have to now wait half of a year to see which of the two gets their head bashed in

 

[More_Badass]

Of course it is one of them. They do not have the balls to kill anyone else from the main cast. Too bad we have to now wait half of a year to see which of the two gets their head bashed in

Abraham. No way does Eugene not go down on the first strike. He doesn't have the fortitude.

And after Glenn, Abraham is the one who's been having the most hopeful story development, to the point of considering of feeling good about life and wanting to have a kid

 

[User 479360]

It's probably Abraham. They could've killed off the scout who originally lured them to Alexandria, but I don't know if he would have lasted that long.

Hopefully it wasn't anyone else.

Overall, the finale was pretty good. It got better near the end. Negan was pretty awesome.

The episode before it may have been better as a whole, though.

EDIT: I will be watching Fear, but I don't like it as much so far.

 

[TheSeks]

It was the highest rated first season of any show in the history of cable TV. It's going to be on the air for years to come.

EDIT: To compare, season 1 of TWD averaged 5.2 million per episode; season 2 averaged 6.9 million; Fear the Walking Dead's season one average was 7.6 million.

TWD built it's fanbase. Fear is using that fanbase to jumpstart a spin-off. Not the same way to compare. The ratings say it all in regards to how fans are receiving it--

I don't know anything about Fear other than that it exists. What's it's angle?

--Which leads me to this: It's shit. It started off "pre-infection" and then quickly sped through the infection (the pilot has a hilarious moment where the drug dealer dies, the family hits him with the truck TWICE and doesn't even question what the fuck happened and why the fuck the drugie son of the main character killed the drug dealer since she didn't know he was slinging drugs at her son)/fall of LA to become "the Walking Dead: West Coast."

Despite AMC hyping it up as a "prequel to the Walking Dead." As such a lot of fans don't care. And I'm going to give this season a watch only because of the bad-ass South American Mercenary Father.

Abraham. No way does Eugene not go down on the first strike. He doesn't have the fortitude.

And after Glenn, Abraham is the one who's been having the most hopeful story development, to the point of considering of feeling good about life and wanting to have a kid

I don't see how anyone would stand up to a nailbat. But okay?

 

[Kickz]

Meh at Fear the Walking Dead, its Better call Saul and Game of Thrones season now.

Of course it is one of them. They do not have the balls to kill anyone else from the main cast. Too bad we have to now wait half of a year to see which of the two gets their head bashed in

Holding out hope its Glenn, he is overdue after that BS previous ass pull/fake death fiasco.

 

[LaNaranja]

Of course it is one of them. They do not have the balls to kill anyone else from the main cast. Too bad we have to now wait half of a year to see which of the two gets their head bashed in

I am going to laugh if after all that they end up killing Rosita. She is the most expendable one in that line up.

Also, COMIC SPOILERS BUT FOR SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS EARLY IN THE COMICS DURING THE GOVERNOR ARC:

Spoiler

Did anyone else think that Rick was going to get his hand shot off when they shot the ax out of his hand? Do y'all think they will have him lose his hand at any point in the show or would it be too much of a hassle to film?

 

[User 479360]

Better Call Saul started off slowly, but got better towards the end of its first season. I've saved all of Season 2 thus far, but haven't watched it.

I plan to soon.

As for Game of Thrones: I watched the first season and liked it. I have a problem getting into fantasy shows in period settings, though, and didn't fall in love with it like most. But I didn't continue watching because I had the books and wanted to read them as I went along, before watching the show, but I started Book 2 twice after reading Book 1 and didn't get too far.

Fear is good. I'm not sure if I'd say it's better than BCS, though. Neither is great, however. At least, as far as S1 goes.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

I am going to laugh if after all that they end up killing Rosita. She is the most expendable one in that line up.

Also, COMIC SPOILERS BUT FOR SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS EARLY IN THE COMICS DURING THE GOVERNOR ARC:

Spoiler

Did anyone else think that Rick was going to get his hand shot off when they shot the ax out of his hand? Do y'all think they will have him lose his hand at any point in the show or would it be too much of a hassle to film?

Comic Spoilers

Spoiler

I think it would be too much of a hassle. Kirkman even mentioned that he regretted having Rick lose his hand because it made some scenes harder to pull off since you have to account for him having one hand.
Plus they already did the one hand thing with Merle. I don't think Rick will ever lose his hand in the show.

 

[TheSeks]

Fear is good. I'm not sure if I'd say it's better than BCS, though. Neither is great, however. At least, as far as S1 goes.

What? Better Call Saul S1 shits on Fear's from a great height. The only disappointment is from folks that assumed it was gonna be about Saul's adventures pre-Breaking Bad and not about how Saul became Saul.

 

[User 479360]

What? Better Call Saul S1 shits on Fear's from a great height. The only disappointment is from folks that assumed it was gonna be about Saul's adventures pre-Breaking Bad and not about how Saul became Saul.

Saul is the better show, I'd say. Does it shit all over Fear? No. But it's better for sure, now that I give it more thought.

 

[AuthenticM]

I hope it's Carl.

Fuck Carl.

 

[Saya]

I hope it's Carl.

Fuck Carl.

Carl isn't going anywhere unfortunately. I'm pretty sure he'll survive until the very end of the series. I think even Rick might bite the bullet before Carl.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

The ratings say it all in regards to how fans are receiving it--

Yeah, extremely well!

 

[hateradio]

Inspired by a suggestion in this thread, I took some other recent shocking TV moments and brought them up to the Walking Dead team's lofty standards. I think we're on to something here!

Warning: Contains pseudo-spoilers for Game of Thrones, Dexter, Hannibal, Breaking Bad, and True Detective. If you haven't seen those, don't watch. Also, what's wrong with you? Go watch them!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HgiVPTc2xw

This show is garbanzo tier. :/

 

[Alex_Mexico]

What are the chances the guy who plays Negan gets nominated for an Emmy as supporting actor for 10 minutes of acting in one episode? Or at least best guest star.

He owned that scene.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

What are the chances the guy who plays Negan gets nominated for an Emmy as supporting actor for 10 minutes of acting in one episode? Or at least best guest star.

He owned that scene.

0%

 

[Kard8p3]

So, even as pissed as I am about this stupid ass cliffhanger, JDM was great. Also he spills the beans on the (first?) official background info for Negan (he also didn't know it was gonna be a cliffhanger):

http://www.tvinsider.com/article/83...duction-and-fan-frustration-over-cliffhanger/

Not sure if posted before.

edit: nvm, this has been known for a while apparently. First I had heard of it though.
edit2: The only "decent" argument I've heard so far is Andrew Lincoln talking about how starting a season with killing someone is interesting from a writing point. Even then, it's stretching. Also that means it better be one of the original members.

 

[sp3ctr3]

I f'ing love JDM as Negan! His whole reveal and speech was so tense.

My thoughts on who kissed Lucile.
Not Daryl, Rick, Carl or Glenn. Their plot armor is just too thick. Besides, I don't think Negan would kill someone who is already hurt? Daryl was shot and Maggie had a fever and didn't look too hot.

I don't think it will be Abraham, because in the scene where he rose up, the look on Negans face said "Nope, you don't get to take one for the team"

I think it might be Eugene. Negans comment after the first hit "Taking it like a champ", makes me believe that he didn't expect that from his "weak" victim.

Could also be Aaron, Rosita or Sasha as they're expendable?

 

[Dalek]

That was super upsetting to watch-even as a comic reader. I had a pit in my stomach the entire episode.

 

[dustyherb]

Also he spills the beans on the (first?) official background info for Negan

http://www.tvinsider.com/article/83...duction-and-fan-frustration-over-cliffhanger/



edit: nvm, this has been known for a while apparently. First I had heard of it though.

Ya Kirkman revealed that about Negan in one of the letter hacks. I think it was like issue #143 or something. Kirkman is making a comic about his backstory and it starts coming out this summer I believe. Wouldn't surprise me if its so that they can flesh out his character on tv.

 

[Jobbs]

I don't know the comic books.

I would bet money on it being abraham to go. They showed how tough he was when Negan walked over to him and he just leaned forward and stared him in the eye.

Then he "took that first hit like a champ" and just looked right back up at it.

It's Abraham. This would also explain why they wanted to start a budding romance between him and Sasha. His death will greatly effect both Sasha and Rosita, which will be fun for the terrible writers

 

[Dalek]

Inspired by a suggestion in this thread, I took some other recent shocking TV moments and brought them up to the Walking Dead team's lofty standards. I think we're on to something here!

Warning: Contains pseudo-spoilers for Game of Thrones, Dexter, Hannibal, Breaking Bad, and True Detective. If you haven't seen those, don't watch. Also, what's wrong with you? Go watch them!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HgiVPTc2xw

My wife and I just enjoyed a few big laughs over this. Well done!

 

[Deaf Spacker]

Just watched it, what the hell were they thinking with that ending?

 

[Plywood]

Jeffrey Dean Morgan was fucking brilliant in that scene, the entire pacing of that scene was so uncomfortably long, the tension built and executed was damn near masterful then they piss away with that fuck you all ending. Jesus H Christ

 

[Dalek]

Jeffrey Dean Morgan was fucking brilliant in that scene, the entire pacing of that scene was so uncomfortably long, the tension built and executed was damn near masterful then they piss away with that fuck you all ending. Jesus H Christ

It is a legendary fuck up.

 

[Spiritwalker]

Disgusting cliffhanger. I also hope Carol snaps out of it and goes back to being a badass soon.

 

[Neverender]

One thing I loved about this episode was the atmosphere while they were trying to get to Hilltop, with it slowly getting darker and darker as they realised how fucked they were.

 

[Dalek]

One thing I loved about this episode was the atmosphere while they were trying to get to Hilltop, with it slowly getting darker and darker as they realised how fucked they were.

That was very good, yes. Some of those roads they were filming on looked creepy as fuck.

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

Inspired by a suggestion in this thread, I took some other recent shocking TV moments and brought them up to the Walking Dead team's lofty standards. I think we're on to something here!

Warning: Contains pseudo-spoilers for Game of Thrones, Dexter, Hannibal, Breaking Bad, and True Detective. If you haven't seen those, don't watch. Also, what's wrong with you? Go watch them!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HgiVPTc2xw

dont know why but this is funny as fuck! (especially since ive seen all those shows except Hannibal)

EDIT: I will be watching Fear, but I don't like it as much so far.

The problem with Fear of the walking dead is that the characters are just Soooo Fucking STUPID!!! it makes the show so frustrating to watch.

 

[UnforgivenTwin]

I hope they kill Glenn to be completely honest. Him escaping that dumpster was absolutely ridiculous and left a really bad taste in my mouth. I know his plot armor is thick,but come on. Watch it be Rosita though lol.

 

[Funky Papa]

The problem with Fear of the walking dead is that the characters are just Soooo Fucking STUPID!!! it makes the show so frustrating to watch.

As opposed to TWD's gang of luminaries.

 

[Pankratous]

I watched P.S I Love You the night before I watched this episode so when Negan came out all I could see was his naked Irish ass.

 

[neorej]

One thing I loved about this episode was the atmosphere while they were trying to get to Hilltop, with it slowly getting darker and darker as they realised how fucked they were.

Indeed, you could also see the dispair in Rick's eyes getting worse. Especially when they found the chained up zombies with Michonne's and Daryl's stuff.

 

[Dandy Lyin]

Great build up but no release. Now we'll have blue balls for ~6 months.

Gimple asking fans for the benefit of the doubt just annoys me even more.

 

[anarckitty]

JDM is going to gain some weight, right? He nailed the personality of Negan, but when he came on screen he was so skinny that I honestly thought he had cancer in real life. I googled it and it looks like he lost weight for a previous role. I hope he gains some of that weight back because he looks unhealthy.

 

[snoopeasystreet]

Watching JDM makes me think John Hamm would be the ultimate Negan.

Edit:

Just saw this.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Yeah, and I hope they go into more detail on the Saviors as a whole and how they've come about. My main issue with them right now is that they seem contrived to make Rick & Co feel weak again.

I don't really buy into the whole Rick falling victim of his own hubris subplot. They've fought a lot of battles and won - it just so happens there has been a massive, militaristic organisation, with resources and hierarchy, on their doorstep this whole time? If Godzilla turns up next season, that would make them look weak too.

Which plays into a larger issue - TWD has gone out of its way to show the viewer how desolate everything is, even across great distances, and how rare organised groups are - which makes Rick's group special and worth fighting for. But lately it seems like other people actually got their shit together a lot quicker, and Rick & Co now look underwhelming in comparison.

Yeah, it really does feel like the Saviours should have come knocking much sooner than they did. Hard to swallow that they'd just leave Alexandria/Rick's group alone until they started to knock on their door, but such is storytelling I guess...we just have to roll with it.

 

[jroc74]

Carl isn't going anywhere unfortunately. I'm pretty sure he'll survive until the very end of the series. I think even Rick might bite the bullet before Carl.

Yea I think this too.

And....it might have been Michonne that got the bat.

Rick has lost every female he was interested in. Negan kept saying to him directly about losing someone, the dialogue between Rick and that guy at the beginning....

The show seems to replace members of the main group with new members with similar skills, personalities.

Jesus might replace Michonne as a fighter with a unique skill set. (Morgan replacing Michonne is too predictable IMO) Daryl was already injured so he's no immediate threat.

Its either Abe or Michonne.

For shock value it would be Michonne. If Rick lose either Daryl or Michonne or BOTH with no similar replacements....the group's chances at overall survival goes down alot. If the Saviors were so good at trapping the group, they should know who the strongest links in the chain are. If it was me, I take out the strongest one(s) first.

Speaking of Morgan....anybody else scream FINALLY when he shot and killed that dude about to kill Carol?

 

[Jimbob Smalls]

Abraham. No way does Eugene not go down on the first strike. He doesn't have the fortitude.

And after Glenn, Abraham is the one who's been having the most hopeful story development, to the point of considering of feeling good about life and wanting to have a kid

Eugene was growing in stature though. Would Negan want to kill one of the potentially more productive members of the group?