Razgriz-Specter
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Sometimes(actually most of the time) I really hate my state.
Nuke Alabama from orbit...just to be sure.
Sometimes(actually most of the time) I really hate my state.
Soros is an alien wizard. Duh. How else could he do it? No human being could orchestrate and maintain such a grand conspiracy, but CLEARLY that's what is happening, so there's got to be some explanation. Connect the three dimensional dots! They're not spheres, no such thing, earth is flat, otherwise Australians would be upside down, now how does that make sense!? All you poor sheep living in a dream world, sad. The matrix is real everybody. We're being manipulated by a machine masquerading as a magic martian masquerading as a human. Break the chain! Defend your freedom! All lives matter, especially white American ones, but still all of them, just, yeah, definitely the white ones first. Not that there's a ladder, it's a horizontal list. It's not my fault white people got in the line first, but now black people want to cut, how is that fair? I was here first. That's the real racism. Think about it. But don't think too hard, that's how the lizard men find you. Think just enough to believe me, then stop. That's how you beat the system controlled by telepathic reptilian humanoids masquerading as quad core intel processors masquerading as illegal mexican magicians masquerading as one of us. That's how you freedom.
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Dave Garvey gave a measured and sensible response. He seems like the kind of dude you could politely disagree about politics with.Dave Garvey is the only somewhat sensible, non-brainwashed person in that group. The rest live in an alternate reality.
Obama certainly did himself no favours after the Dallas shooting
Care to explain?
His speech afterwards was very reminiscent of trumps "all sides" argument the left has been promulgating, at times it seemed like he was blaming the police.
His speech afterwards was very reminiscent of trumps "all sides" argument the left has been promulgating, at times it seemed like he was blaming the police.
Stop lying
Read this over and over and tell me it doesn't make your head hurt.
I was born in Mississippi and raised in Texas. It sucks when people do it, but fuck if they don't have a point sometimes.1. Fuck those racist fuckers.
2. Fuck you, I live here. This may blow your mind, but not everyone from Alabama is a redneck racist dumbfuck.
Same here, brother. But even then, I hate when people generalize everyone living here.
Maybe read it
His speech afterwards was very reminiscent of trumps "all sides" argument the left has been promulgating, at times it seemed like he was blaming the police.
Maybe you should take your own advice and read it yourself because he said no such thing.
I will have more say about this when the facts become more clear. For now, let me just say that, even as yesterday I spoke about are need to be concerned as all Americans about racial disparities in our criminal justice system. I also said yesterday that our police have an extraordinarily difficult job and the vast majority of them do their job in outstanding fashion.
Jeff Stein
What do you think of the perspective of black people having to watch this happen?
Kerrick Whisenant
Its got to be horrifying. It sends chills up and down me even thinking about it; its sickening. Its just so despicable. At the heart of that issue is just hate pure hate. Theres no room for it in this country, and I despise that more than I despise Colin Kaepernick refusing to stand during the national anthem. I dislike that as well, but someone saying theyre better than someone else because of how they were born a certain way is the most repugnant, ignorant thing that can be said. I hope they would look to love and our creator.
Maybe read it
President Barack Obama said:Dallas saw one of the worst mass police shootings in U.S. history on Thursday. Snipers killed five police officers and wounded six during a protest against police shootings of black men. Here is the full transcript of President Obama's remarks.
"I spoke this morning with Mayor Rawlings of Dallas to convey the deepest condolences to the American people and that the Federal Government will provide whatever assistance Dallas may need as it deal with this tremendous tragedy.
We still don't know all the facts. What we do know is that there's been a vicious, calculated and despicable attack on law enforcement. Police in Dallas were on duty, doing their job, keeping people safe during a peaceful protest. These law enforcement officers were targeted, and nearly a dozen officers were shot, five were killed. Other officers and at least one civilian were wounded. Some are in serious conditions and we are praying for their recovery.
As I told Mayor Rawlings, and I believe that I speak for every single American when I say, that we are horrified over these events and that we stand united with people and the police department in Dallas.
According to police there are multiple suspects. We will learn more undoubtedly about their twisted motivations, but let's be clear, there is no possible justification for these kinds of attacks. Grave violence against law enforcement. The FBI is already in touch with the Dallas police; anyone involved in these senseless murders will be held fully accountable. Justice will be done.
I will have more say about this when the facts become more clear. For now, let me just say that, even as yesterday I spoke about are need to be concerned as all Americans about racial disparities in our criminal justice system. I also said yesterday that our police have an extraordinarily difficult job and the vast majority of them do their job in outstanding fashion. I also indicated the degree in which we need to be supportive of those officers who do their job each and every day. Protecting us and protecting our communities. Today is a wrenching reminder of the sacrifices that they make for us. We also know that when people are armed with powerful weapons, it unfortunately make attacks like these more deadly and more tragic and in the days ahead consider those realities as well.
In the meantime, today, our focus is on the victims and their families. They are heartbroken and the entire city of Dallas is grieving. Police across America, which is a tightknit family, feels this loss to their core and we're grieving with them.
I ask Americans to say a prayer for these officers and their families. Keep them in your thoughts, and as a nation, let's remember to express our profound gratitude to our men and women, not just today but every day."
President Barack Obama said:Scripture tells us that in our sufferings, there is glory, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope. Sometimes the truths of these words are hard to see. Right now, those words test us because the people of Dallas, people across the country are suffering.
We're here to honor the memory and mourn the loss of five fellow Americans, to grieve with their loved ones, to support this community, and pray for the wounded, and to try and find some meaning amidst our sorrow.
For the men and women who protect and serve the people of Dallas, last Thursday began like any other day. Like most Americans, each day you get up, probably have too quick a breakfast, kiss your family goodbye, and you head to work.
But your work and the work of police officers across the country is like no other. For the moment you put on that uniform, you have answered a call that at any moment, even in the briefest interaction, may put your life in harm's way.
OBAMA: Lorne Ahrens, he answered that call. So did his wife, Katrina, not only because she was the spouse of a police officer, but because she's a detective on the force. They have two kids. Lorne took them fishing. And he used to proudly go to their school in uniform.
On the night before he died, he bought dinner for a homeless man. And the next night, Katrina had to tell their children that their dad was gone. "They don't get it yet," their grandma said. "They don't know what to do quite yet."
Michael Krol answered that call. His mother said, he knew the dangers of the job, but he never shied away from his duty. He came 1,000 miles from his home state of Michigan to be a cop in Dallas, telling his family, this is something I wanted to do.
And last year, he brought his girlfriend back to Detroit for Thanksgiving. And it was the last time he'd see his family.
Michael Smith answered that call. In the Army, and over almost 30 years working for the Dallas Police Association, which gave him the appropriately named Cop's Cop Award. A man of deep faith; when he was off duty, he could be found at church or playing softball with his two girls.
Today, his girls have lost their dad, for God has called Michael home.
Patrick Zamarippa, he answered that call. Just 32, a former altar boy who served in the Navy and dreamed of being a cop. He liked to post videos of himself and his kids on social media. On Thursday night, while Patrick went to work, his partner, Christy, posted a photo of her and their daughter at a Texas Rangers game, and tagged the department so that he could see it while on duty.
Brent Thompson answered that call. He served his country as a Marine. And years later, as a contractor, he spent time in some of the most dangerous parts of Iraq and Afghanistan. And then a few years ago, he settled down here in Dallas for a new life of service as a transit cop.
And just about two weeks ago, he married a fellow officer, their whole life together waiting before them.
Like police officers across the country, these men and their families shared a commitment to something larger than themselves. They weren't looking for their names to be up in lights. They'd tell you the pay was decent, but wouldn't make you rich. They could have told you about the stress and long shifts. And they'd probably agree with Chief Brown when he said that cops don't expect to hear the words "thank you" very often, especially from those who need them the most.
No. The reward comes in knowing that our entire way of life in America depends on the rule of law, that the maintenance of that law is a hard and daily labor, that in this country we don't have soldiers in the streets or militias setting the rules.
Instead, we have public servants, police officers, like the men who were taken away from us. And that's what these five were doing last Thursday when they were assigned to protect and keep orderly a peaceful protest in response to the killing of Alton Sterling of Baton Rouge and Philando Castile of Minnesota.
OBAMA: They were upholding the constitutional rights of this country.
For a while, the protests went on without incident. And despite the fact that police conduct was the subject of the protest, despite the fact that there must have been signs or slogans or chants with which they profoundly disagreed, these men and this department did their jobs like the professionals that they were.
In fact, the police had been part of the protest planning. Dallas P.D. even posted photos on their Twitter feeds of their own officers standing among the protesters. Two officer, black and white, smiled next to a man with a sign that read "no justice, no peace."
And then around nine o'clock, the gunfire came. Another community torn apart; more hearts broken; more questions about what caused and what might prevent another such tragedy.
I know that Americans are struggling right now with what we've witnessed over the past week. First, the shootings in Minnesota and Baton Rouge, the protests. Then the targeting of police by the shooter here, an act not just of demented violence, but of racial hatred.
All of it has left us wounded and angry and hurt. This is -- the deepest faultlines of our democracy have suddenly been exposed, perhaps even widened. And although we know that such divisions are not new, though they've surely been worse in even the recent past, that offers us little comfort.
Faced with this violence, we wonder if the divides of race in America can ever be bridged. We wonder if an African American community that feels unfairly targeted by police and police departments that feel unfairly maligned for doing their jobs, can ever understand each other's experience.
We turn on the TV or surf the internet, and we can watch positions harden and lines drawn and people retreat to their respective corners, and politicians calculate how to grab attention or avoid the fallout. We see all this, and it's hard not to think sometimes that the center won't hold and that things might get worse.
I understand. I understand how Americans are feeling. But Dallas, I'm here to say we must reject such despair. I'm here to insist that we are not as divided as we seem. And I know that because I know America. I know how far we've come against impossible odds. (APPLAUSE)
White people think black people go to college for free.Republicans miss the racism free 60's.
They didn't hear about racism then like they do today so there must not have been any. Now that they do they're the real victims.
Both sides, seems ok to ignore some radical ideologies when its your narrative.
What radical ideologies are those?
"Why do so many whites (not all) enjoy killing and participating in the death of innocent beings? Then they all stand around and smile while their picture is taken with a hung, burned and brutalised black person."
"I for one think these cops need to get a taste of the life we now fear. Makes me so mad. When he decide we had enough and fight back."
The ideology of left leaning folks who have convinced themselves the only way to fight the status quo is violence and there is a current civil war going on
Quote the shooter
I dont say this is the entire left, I do not think it is, but the vocal minority of the left that considers themselves to be fighting a war with perceived enemies, as fringe as the current alt right who are also, obviously, mentally deranged.
I dont think Obama is responsible for this shooting just as I dont believe Trump is for what happened recently, I do believe both held a dangerous narrative that helped foster the current situation we are in.
do you really think you're fooling anyone?
Both sides amiriteI have very low expectations for this forum to see beyond its own bias
And I notice you would rather make that statement than debate with me,so congrats.
Both sides amirite
Jesus Christ, can you imagine Trump ever giving a statement half this eloquent about anything?Maybe you should?
http://fortune.com/2016/07/08/transcript-obama-dallas-police-shootings/
And maybe you ought read his memorial statement.
http://time.com/4403543/president-obama-dallas-shooting-memorial-service-speech-transcript/
(Posts stupid, ignorant comment)If you never leave your bubble you can make your life whatever you want it to be
I live in NYC. Greatest bubble on Earth.If you never leave your bubble you can make your life whatever you want it to be
I live in NYC. Greatest bubble on Earth.
Jesus Christ, can you imagine Trump ever giving a statement half this eloquent about anything?
(Posts stupid, ignorant comment)
(Gets called out for stupid, ignorant comment)
"WAAAH GAF IS A BUBBLE"
Every fucking time
Lol. One of my best friends lives at home in Staten Island. He's constantly super fucking depressed about it. I feel for him.As long as u keep away from staten island and some parts of queens, yes it is![]()
His speech afterwards was very reminiscent of trumps "all sides" argument the left has been promulgating, at times it seemed like he was blaming the police.
This is fucking horse shit and you better come here with quote of exactly what you mean or fuck off to the moon with this.
do you really think you're fooling anyone?
You jumped from blaming Obama to quoting the shooter and painting his actually rare actions on some boogeyman "vocal minority left" while building a false equivalency that Trump courting white supremacists through his campaign is similar to Obama... I don't even fucking know, acknowledged that Cops routinely shooting unarmed citizens could have bad consequences?
It's so see through and hardly worth engaging. The fact that you think you're fooling anyone with this "both sides" act, that's just what I wanted to know. But I know your game is to just keep repeating lies to fool people who are just as undereducated and disingenuous
I have very low expectations for this forum to see beyond its own bias
And I notice you would rather make that statement than debate with me,so congrats.
The ideology of left leaning folks who have convinced themselves the only way to fight the status quo is violence and there is a current civil war going on
Quote the shooter
I dont say this is the entire left, I do not think it is, but the vocal minority of the left that considers themselves to be fighting a war with perceived enemies, as fringe as the current alt right who are also, obviously, mentally deranged.
I dont think Obama is responsible for this shooting just as I dont believe Trump is for what happened recently, I do believe both held a dangerous narrative that helped foster the current situation we are in.
I did, read up, its very hard to take your anger seriously if you refuse to read the posts
No you didn't. Provide actual quotes right here right now or stop lying.
Specific quotes of specifically what Obama said. Not some horse shit about what the shooter said. Specifically what Obama said.