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jecclr2003 said:
Any decision for Cena to stand back up after the punt was made well before the match, it's not something Cena just decided to do to make Orton look weak. He was probably told he had "stand up and look robbed" or something.
Besides, wrestling is full of abysmal selling - Cena's just put under a lot more scrutiny than anyone else. The first man to nullify the punt was none other than Triple H.
jecclr2003
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Mr. Sam said:
Cena got up IMMEDIATELY after the pinfall. Not even ackowledging the fact he just got BOOTED IN THE HEAD.
How is this not an issue? The guy's notorious for it.
The reason Cena's been put under scrutiny for it is because he IS the top guy and he will get more focus when he does things poorly.
That may have worked in the age of Hogan, but not now.
thefro said:
I sure hope so, was really surprised by Team Me, they looked like jobbers and then all of sudden did one insane move after another.
And TNA signed Kennedy too? This is getting a bit ridiculous, it's not like they have to go after every guy thats been fired by the WWE. They already have tons and tons of talent..
Kennedy is supposed to be doing some local indy shows in my neck of the woods at the end of the month (jersey)
my friends may go just to heckle him about getting Bob Holly fired :lol
i get the feeling the undercard is going to be filled with a bunch of dudes i knew back when i used to run sound for local indy fed EWA
my friends may go just to heckle him about getting Bob Holly fired :lol
i get the feeling the undercard is going to be filled with a bunch of dudes i knew back when i used to run sound for local indy fed EWA
Daffney interview from IGN.com:
IGN TV: We're big fans of yours here at IGN. The first thing I need to ask you about is the little hat. The world loves the little hat. Why did you start wearing it?
Daffney: I just think that tiny top hats are great. I'm addicted to them. I can't go out without one. Without a tiny top hat. I like trying to say it fast. Tinytophattinytophat But then I start stuttering. Sorry, I have to go put one on right now.
IGN: How much of the Daffney style comes from you? Do you pick out everything you wear?
Daffney: Yeah, I come up with what she wears. Definitely. I have a little punk top hat. The first one I bought was for the Monster's Ball last year, so this was well before any of the trailers for Alice in Wonderland came out or any of the research you could do. And I was just like "We're going to the Ball. And I need a top hat." And I thought it would be funny. And James Storm, my buddy, says (with southern drawl) "That should be your gimmick, you should wear that." So I thought it would be good to wear it in special occasions because I'm crazy. (still in southern drawl) You can't help but go into a southern drawl when you're talking about James Storm. So then I met a girl who makes custom tiny top hats. And I was like "Holy cow, you make them by hand." And then they got more elaborate and it just went on from there. I had a couple that I bought from certain places that I wore, but I'm just going balls out. Like the one I wore the other night had a big old black feather. And a huge veil. I wrestled Tara. I don't wrestle that much and more. It kind of sucks and I hate it.
IGN: Speaking to that do you prefer being a singles wrestler or do you prefer your role as a lunatic manager?
Daffney: I'm, like, right down the middle. I like being able to go out there and be Dr. Stevie's "most precious patient." Although he tells me he loves me. Kind of. I'll say "I love you, Dr. Stevie." "I know," is what he says. So that's what I get. I know he knows. But then they flip it over and I get out there and have a match with somebody. And he comes to the ring sometimes.
IGN: The Knockout Division has shown a lot of people how tough female wrestlers can be. In that division, you've been the toughest one of them all, falling on tacks and taking nasty bumps through tables. What's that been like?
Daffney: Yeah, we don't do that anymore. I don't like to fall down and go boom, and hit my head. We did that for a while. A little craziness. Some fun with some tack-ery. A little pin-cushion action on the back. Yeah, I'm not indestructible. So we decided that we're not going to be doing that too much anymore.
IGN: But do you have aspirations for being the Knockouts Champ?
Daffney: Yeah, well, it's like you said before "do you want to do this or do you want to do this?" and I feel "why can't I do both?" If Dr. Stevie's got a match and they need me to manage him I follow him wherever he goes anyway I'll go down to the ring with him. But sometimes I'm like "let me at 'em. I'm gonna knock 'em out." Because I'm crazy. But yeah, I would like to fight more. I totally would. I mean I really did fall down and hit my head pretty hard. That was a twelve, thirteen foot fall from the second turnbuckle through some barbed-wire.
IGN: You're talking about Bound for Glory now.
Daffney: Oh yeah. People were all "she broke her arm, she broke her arm" and I thought "I might have hurt my arm, but I hit my head even worse." I knocked my noggin. Yeah, I had a Grade II concussion. Wow. And so they've been really good at protecting me. So who knows what the company has planned. They're always very good, and they've been giving me some Xplosion matches lately. And in the battle royale they had me out first to protect my head. They gave me a web match with Tracy Brooks. And I just had an Xplosion match with Tara which was another web match. I loved working with her and I want to get my hands on her and her spider and bite off its head. And then they asked me "how's your head?" And I said "oh, it's fine." So maybe that's why, as of late since that happened - they've been more focused on me hanging out and not wrestling because they really wanted to protect my head. Because that was not fun. That as if it's possible, I was knocked loopy. But I'm already loopy so I'm not sure how to say it. I was knocked more loopy? More loopier?
IGN: Being someone in TNA who was actually in the old WCW during the NWO days, is there anything in TNA now that feels like WCW? What did it feel like last week when Impact went against RAW on Monday? Was there any of the same vibe?
Daffney: Well what did it feel like to you?
IGN: I thought it felt great. I think competition is good for the business. It's healthy.
Daffney: Yeah, competition is good. I agree.
IGN: Do you think that this could lead to more shows on Monday night?
Daffney: Yeah, I think that's just something that we're going to just have wait and see. With just one show? It's kind of hard to tell. Everyone is so quick to go "oh this happened" and talk about it. I'm not one to really read the sheets where you've got people asking "what did you think about this?" and I'm like "Wha? What did I think about what?" And people are judging it on certain decisions that were made and I think it's better to say "let's wait and see". For me. I mean, I don't know what it's going to be like, especially for me as a woman. But I want to ask you a question. There was no Women's Division back in the old WCW, was there?
IGN: No, there wasn't.
Daffney: Not only do we have a Woman's Champ, but we have Women's Tag Champs. So there's that. Yeah, I'm curious what they've got coming next. But you just have to go to work and say "what's new today, boss? What'cha got for me today?" Because I've got a tiny top hat. A new one. And I'd like to wear it. It's really cool. Let me ask you this. My new tiny top hat is purple and red. So is my purple and red an homage to Harley Quinn in the new Batman: Arkham Asylum game?
IGN: Can I assume that Harley Quinn is one of your muses?
Daffney: Oh my god. (doing Harley voice) "Hey, it's me Mr. J."
IGN: Who was it that originally inspired the Daffney character? Was it Harley?
Daffney: (Harley voice) "Totally Harley" (back to real voice) Because she's crazy nuts. Absolutely nuts. Because you never know what she's going to do. And she wants The Joker. She loooves The Joker. And he's just like "okay okay, yeah yeah whatever." Joker and Harley and totally Dr. Stevie and Daffney. It's awesome. If they ever make a Harley movie I'll be like "Me! Me! I can do crazy flippedy-doo stunts. I won't hit my head." I actually had gear, her old school gear, from the comics that was black and red. With the whole mask going over her face it was a hood that I had that was half black and half green and I had sleeves going up my arms and I wore my hair up in pigtails. But every once in a while, when I do my make-up, I'll paint a mask on my face. I just try to do little things to be like her. Because she's the greatest ever.
IGN: Well I think you have hours and hours of footage you could show them. You wouldn't even have to audition.
Daffney: (laughs) (in Harley voice) "I can do the flips. See, I'm a natural. I can even do the voice." She's like 5'7" and 140. I like 5'5" and 130. C'mon. And I can do flippy-doos. And I can kick people. I can kick and punch really hard if I want to. But I usually pull it back. I can do stunt fighting. I was almost going to be a stunt woman.
IGN: Well, we really hope to see you with that Knockout Title soon.
Daffney: Well, thank you. I would honor to hold it. I think I'd have to change the belt to black or something. And I might have to glue a top hat on it. But I would be honored to hold it one day.
http://tv.ign.com/articles/106/1061183p1.html
*swoons*
:lol
IGN TV: We're big fans of yours here at IGN. The first thing I need to ask you about is the little hat. The world loves the little hat. Why did you start wearing it?
Daffney: I just think that tiny top hats are great. I'm addicted to them. I can't go out without one. Without a tiny top hat. I like trying to say it fast. Tinytophattinytophat But then I start stuttering. Sorry, I have to go put one on right now.
IGN: How much of the Daffney style comes from you? Do you pick out everything you wear?
Daffney: Yeah, I come up with what she wears. Definitely. I have a little punk top hat. The first one I bought was for the Monster's Ball last year, so this was well before any of the trailers for Alice in Wonderland came out or any of the research you could do. And I was just like "We're going to the Ball. And I need a top hat." And I thought it would be funny. And James Storm, my buddy, says (with southern drawl) "That should be your gimmick, you should wear that." So I thought it would be good to wear it in special occasions because I'm crazy. (still in southern drawl) You can't help but go into a southern drawl when you're talking about James Storm. So then I met a girl who makes custom tiny top hats. And I was like "Holy cow, you make them by hand." And then they got more elaborate and it just went on from there. I had a couple that I bought from certain places that I wore, but I'm just going balls out. Like the one I wore the other night had a big old black feather. And a huge veil. I wrestled Tara. I don't wrestle that much and more. It kind of sucks and I hate it.
IGN: Speaking to that do you prefer being a singles wrestler or do you prefer your role as a lunatic manager?
Daffney: I'm, like, right down the middle. I like being able to go out there and be Dr. Stevie's "most precious patient." Although he tells me he loves me. Kind of. I'll say "I love you, Dr. Stevie." "I know," is what he says. So that's what I get. I know he knows. But then they flip it over and I get out there and have a match with somebody. And he comes to the ring sometimes.
IGN: The Knockout Division has shown a lot of people how tough female wrestlers can be. In that division, you've been the toughest one of them all, falling on tacks and taking nasty bumps through tables. What's that been like?
Daffney: Yeah, we don't do that anymore. I don't like to fall down and go boom, and hit my head. We did that for a while. A little craziness. Some fun with some tack-ery. A little pin-cushion action on the back. Yeah, I'm not indestructible. So we decided that we're not going to be doing that too much anymore.
IGN: But do you have aspirations for being the Knockouts Champ?
Daffney: Yeah, well, it's like you said before "do you want to do this or do you want to do this?" and I feel "why can't I do both?" If Dr. Stevie's got a match and they need me to manage him I follow him wherever he goes anyway I'll go down to the ring with him. But sometimes I'm like "let me at 'em. I'm gonna knock 'em out." Because I'm crazy. But yeah, I would like to fight more. I totally would. I mean I really did fall down and hit my head pretty hard. That was a twelve, thirteen foot fall from the second turnbuckle through some barbed-wire.
IGN: You're talking about Bound for Glory now.
Daffney: Oh yeah. People were all "she broke her arm, she broke her arm" and I thought "I might have hurt my arm, but I hit my head even worse." I knocked my noggin. Yeah, I had a Grade II concussion. Wow. And so they've been really good at protecting me. So who knows what the company has planned. They're always very good, and they've been giving me some Xplosion matches lately. And in the battle royale they had me out first to protect my head. They gave me a web match with Tracy Brooks. And I just had an Xplosion match with Tara which was another web match. I loved working with her and I want to get my hands on her and her spider and bite off its head. And then they asked me "how's your head?" And I said "oh, it's fine." So maybe that's why, as of late since that happened - they've been more focused on me hanging out and not wrestling because they really wanted to protect my head. Because that was not fun. That as if it's possible, I was knocked loopy. But I'm already loopy so I'm not sure how to say it. I was knocked more loopy? More loopier?
IGN: Being someone in TNA who was actually in the old WCW during the NWO days, is there anything in TNA now that feels like WCW? What did it feel like last week when Impact went against RAW on Monday? Was there any of the same vibe?
Daffney: Well what did it feel like to you?
IGN: I thought it felt great. I think competition is good for the business. It's healthy.
Daffney: Yeah, competition is good. I agree.
IGN: Do you think that this could lead to more shows on Monday night?
Daffney: Yeah, I think that's just something that we're going to just have wait and see. With just one show? It's kind of hard to tell. Everyone is so quick to go "oh this happened" and talk about it. I'm not one to really read the sheets where you've got people asking "what did you think about this?" and I'm like "Wha? What did I think about what?" And people are judging it on certain decisions that were made and I think it's better to say "let's wait and see". For me. I mean, I don't know what it's going to be like, especially for me as a woman. But I want to ask you a question. There was no Women's Division back in the old WCW, was there?
IGN: No, there wasn't.
Daffney: Not only do we have a Woman's Champ, but we have Women's Tag Champs. So there's that. Yeah, I'm curious what they've got coming next. But you just have to go to work and say "what's new today, boss? What'cha got for me today?" Because I've got a tiny top hat. A new one. And I'd like to wear it. It's really cool. Let me ask you this. My new tiny top hat is purple and red. So is my purple and red an homage to Harley Quinn in the new Batman: Arkham Asylum game?
IGN: Can I assume that Harley Quinn is one of your muses?
Daffney: Oh my god. (doing Harley voice) "Hey, it's me Mr. J."
IGN: Who was it that originally inspired the Daffney character? Was it Harley?
Daffney: (Harley voice) "Totally Harley" (back to real voice) Because she's crazy nuts. Absolutely nuts. Because you never know what she's going to do. And she wants The Joker. She loooves The Joker. And he's just like "okay okay, yeah yeah whatever." Joker and Harley and totally Dr. Stevie and Daffney. It's awesome. If they ever make a Harley movie I'll be like "Me! Me! I can do crazy flippedy-doo stunts. I won't hit my head." I actually had gear, her old school gear, from the comics that was black and red. With the whole mask going over her face it was a hood that I had that was half black and half green and I had sleeves going up my arms and I wore my hair up in pigtails. But every once in a while, when I do my make-up, I'll paint a mask on my face. I just try to do little things to be like her. Because she's the greatest ever.
IGN: Well I think you have hours and hours of footage you could show them. You wouldn't even have to audition.
Daffney: (laughs) (in Harley voice) "I can do the flips. See, I'm a natural. I can even do the voice." She's like 5'7" and 140. I like 5'5" and 130. C'mon. And I can do flippy-doos. And I can kick people. I can kick and punch really hard if I want to. But I usually pull it back. I can do stunt fighting. I was almost going to be a stunt woman.
IGN: Well, we really hope to see you with that Knockout Title soon.
Daffney: Well, thank you. I would honor to hold it. I think I'd have to change the belt to black or something. And I might have to glue a top hat on it. But I would be honored to hold it one day.
http://tv.ign.com/articles/106/1061183p1.html
*swoons*
:lol
Penguin said:
Track list looks as good as it could be. Jerishow, new Bret Hart theme, Dolph etc. Plus its only $4 on Amazon.com.
Off topic: I watched The History of the World title DVD and it annoyed me. How can they find 2 hours of stuff on the Monday Night Wars but only 50 minutes for a World title that is 100 years old?
I would have liked more then a 20 second statement that was probably BS about how Pro wrestling went from a real sport to entertainment.
The going in and out of Kayfabe was confusing. Pretending like Flairs second world title rein was his first, then showing clips of Flair talking from his DVD where he clearly refers to that title rein as something other then his first was confusing. Glancing over large chunks of time was confusing.
It could have been so much better.
The Frankman
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Uh, no he didn't. Plus Orton sold a knee injury + didn't run up to punt. But keep spitting venom.jecclr2003 said:
jecclr2003
Banned
The Frankman said:
I watched the damn PPV. The bell rung, he got right up as soon as Orton left the cage and just stood at the ropes like nothing ever happened.
Perhaps I can youtube it.
yankeeforever2
Member
It is the hell in the cell botchamania.jecclr2003 said:
About the punt at HiaC, Orton played a leg injury in the match, and the announcers explained that the punt wasn't as strong due to the injury. Also, he's John Cena. He beat Mike Tyson in the original Punch Out, what have you done?
Also, it looks like it will be heel vs. heel and face vs. face for the world title matches. Oh Royal Rumble, you so crazy!
Also, it looks like it will be heel vs. heel and face vs. face for the world title matches. Oh Royal Rumble, you so crazy!
Net_Wrecker
Member
Man, Randy Orton sure seems like a douche in real life.
Did anyone else know Sheamus had a small part in an Irish movie called The Escapist?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evaJCbBpqfo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evaJCbBpqfo
kobashi100
Banned
Bootaaay said:
Thats the kinda trailer I like. No need for some stupid wacky storyline, just give me some hard hitting pro-wrestling!!
Davey Richards is awesome and reminds me of Dynamite Kid when I watch him.
British Monsoon
Member
Damn, this sucks
kobashi100 said:
Definetly, he has that same intensity and crispness of execution, I just love watching him work. Can't wait to see Davey/YAMATO from DGUSA and Davey/Kota from EVOLVE.
The Rock was scheduled for January 11th Raw
http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/the-rock-will-return-to-wwe-plans-something-special-94631
http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/the-rock-will-return-to-wwe-plans-something-special-94631
ZombieSupaStar
Member
sid has new hair!
:lol
:lol
DMczaf said:The Rock was scheduled for January 11th Raw
http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/the-rock-will-return-to-wwe-plans-something-special-94631
I hate Mexico now.
British Monsoon
Member
From Bubba the Love Sponge's twitter;
Real classy, asshole. The sooner this fucking moron has nothing to do with TNA the better.
Real classy, asshole. The sooner this fucking moron has nothing to do with TNA the better.
sweetdaddyg
Member
wow Sid looks awful, but not as bad as Bobby Heenan
I actually cried when I saw hiim
I actually cried when I saw hiim
GoutPatrol
Forgotten in his cell
ZombieSupaStar said:sid has new hair!
:lol
Billowy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-kxxFjiD6s
Apparently the internet thinks Kofi botched the finish. I didn't notice it when I watched on monday but upon looking at it again, could be true.
Apparently the internet thinks Kofi botched the finish. I didn't notice it when I watched on monday but upon looking at it again, could be true.
BoboBrazil
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Ken Kennedy
BoboBrazil
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Also just read that the 4 sided ring is up in the arena already for TNA. So no more 6 sided rings...
BoboBrazil
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Brian Kendrick aka Spanky
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Praise the Lord!BoboBrazil said:
BigBlackGamer
Member
BoboBrazil said:
YES.
4-sided ring, awesome. I hope it makes for better overall production, since the weird angles and tons of bad shots is what I like least about TNA.
I like him and all, but Kennedy as a major acquisition doesn't make sense to me. Even RVD wouldn't have, tbh. With the Hogan/Bischoff thing I'd associate a "big name" as being another guy with WCW ties, but no idea who's even left from then.
I like him and all, but Kennedy as a major acquisition doesn't make sense to me. Even RVD wouldn't have, tbh. With the Hogan/Bischoff thing I'd associate a "big name" as being another guy with WCW ties, but no idea who's even left from then.
Dork Knight
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stupid double post!
Dork Knight
Member
krae_man said:
I noticed this on Monday and thought something was off about it. Makes more sense hearing about the proposed finish (punt o' doom!).
BoboBrazil
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Anyone have a lamp? It is getting dark in here.
jecclr2003
Banned
Not until 8BoboBrazil said:
BoboBrazil
Member
Ahh sorry, this is my first time needing to be illuminated.
The Frankman
Banned
Wait Royal Rumble is tonight? WTF WWE?
The Frankman
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ahh panicked. What's tonight?Lebron said:
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