LookAtMeGo
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I don't. Thats why I formed it as a question. Anecdotal evidence from a gaffer who works for gamestop ( i think ) and Amazon was all the info I have about that.
11 minutes of The Order 1886 gameplay
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Angry Puppy
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I already know it looks gorgeous. Still waiting on the actual fun though.
I wonder how the review thread will turn out.
I wonder how the review thread will turn out.
I'm expecting lots of 9s and 8s just on the crazy graphics alone.
Dang. Thanks for the clarification.
LegalEagleMike
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eh i think graphics alone dont get review scores as high as they used to. Ryse didnt get great reviews and it was a looker for a launch title.
Not saying Order will review bad, just have to wait and see what the full product brings. If they deliver on the gameplay then I would expect those 8s and 9s.
pharmboy044
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Unfortunately "cinematic experiences" in this gaming age are not going to be looked at in a favorable light. I guess people might assume that it's holding the players hand to lead them through the experience instead of the player experiencing it themselves.
ArkkAngel007
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I can't do any digging right now, but it should be brought up in either in:
Gameplay vid thread (one with all the gifs and spoiler tags)
Superbowl spot thread
Interactive site thread (not the ARG, the one that gives the PS4 theme).
People often forget that Ryse got a lot of bad review because it's a short game (5-6 hours).
I hope The Order 1886 is longer (Verendus said 8-10 hours).
LookAtMeGo
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Its here starting at post 833 and 837.
LegalEagleMike
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Hopefully. Just depends on if he is talking about a completionist run or not. Ryse completion run actually takes about 8-10. Plus Ryse had the Arena mode for MP which was actually quite good for what it was.
Chaos2Frozen
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I don't think that's the actual reload animation in combat right ^^: ?
tensuke
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Fortunately, there just so happens to be 'gameplay' like this to go along with all of the gawking at the visuals:
Do you honestly think that walking around is all you do?
good christ the visuals in this game O.O
The Order review thread is going to be a bloodbath
Reading some of the posts in here is hilarious. It's as if people just want shoot shoot bang bang and nothing else, devoid of any narrative, world or character building exposition.
These kinds of slower moments in games, Eg walking around the labs in Half Life 2, through the military camps in Call of Duty, walking through the abandoned towns in Last of Us and so on, are some great moments in these games, and what provide less monotonous pacing to a game, with moments of calm before the intense gunfights, and moments that give you a better sense of atmosphere and place in the world. From a game design perspective, what is shown in this particular short video is very well done, everything is very well realised and believable.
These kinds of slower moments in games, Eg walking around the labs in Half Life 2, through the military camps in Call of Duty, walking through the abandoned towns in Last of Us and so on, are some great moments in these games, and what provide less monotonous pacing to a game, with moments of calm before the intense gunfights, and moments that give you a better sense of atmosphere and place in the world. From a game design perspective, what is shown in this particular short video is very well done, everything is very well realised and believable.
Not applicable besides in cutscenes. The artist needs to be in control of the camera for cropping to be a form of framing, when the player is in control of the camera the borders move all over the place, adding artistically nothing. No, the borders in The Order are there to save resources - limiting playability in exchange for for impressive technical fidelity. Not the sexiest explanation marketing wise, I know, and that's why the developers claim, wrongfully, that they ad something cinematography wise - which they don't, because player controlled gameplay is different from movie cinematography. Same thing as with the cinematic video game framerate debate really, marketers making a false analogy between a completely different medium praying on useful idiots to reiterate it.
Yea ... I'm finding it very strange after all the backlash Destiny gets around here for it's lack of a compelling narrative.
Oddvintagechap
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LMAOOOOOO, the bouncing hair one should be a MEME.
Hair too bouncy. Hair Bounce = { gravitation pull |speed change| } e^hair density - wind turbulence. Slows frames to show what may or may not be a INCORRECT OUTPUT. Preorder CANCELED. I am a horrible engineer.
DontBeThatGuy
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Sick gameplay, bro.
GarciaHotspur
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It's the most beautiful game i have ever seen in my life.
jellies_two
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what a bunch of bs
wide screen framing is a stylistic choice with a distinct visual flavor that doesnt vanish the moment you move a stick and find your charcter moves.
it may very well be that it was technically key to reach the overall visual quality they wanted, but that doesnt mean you can pretend it has no effect.
With the orchestral music and grand settings the framing appears to fit. If you find the picture too small vertically, sit 20% nearer the screen.
boredandlazy
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I could find this bit from one of the demos they showed off.
It probably looks a bit extra awkward through the player twitching around, but I don't think RE4 is going to be kicked off the throne yet.
Naughty_Doge
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Relevant.
Triggerhappytel
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Goddamn. Leon, I love you but it might be time to step aside.
Net_Wrecker
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I don't think this is true at all. Any dev worth their salt designs their game worlds with the player's point of view in mind by using the lighting to draw your focus, sight lines, vanishing points, using the environment to frame the gameplay camera, camera distance from the player, depth of field, etc, especially so in a linear game where major sight lines, corridors and entry/exit points in a particualr area will be constant. A user controlled camera doesn't mean cinematography and framing cease to apply. And it should be pretty obvious by the way they've used the vistas in The Order that the aspect ratio wasn't simply a technical band-aid.
Just because most games think "cinematic" means "cutscenes and quick time events", but don't make good use of tried and true visual artistry in gameplay to actually look cinematic doesn't mean it's not a thing that's possible. I'll continue to refer to Shadow of The Colossus in discussions like this. Just look at the camera behavior and environmental design in that game if you don't think these things makes a difference.
That looks like an economical reload animation so the player gets right back into the fight. Probably a good thing if they want to keep combat pacing up, but it definitely doesn't stack up to the RE4 reload.
nycgamer4ever
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Thanks for letting all of us know so that we can now go on with the rest of our lives happy.
StrongBlackVine
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Looks great as usual.
Oddvintagechap
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I also think your wrong since from opening of the video when he is going around the table... the wide angle framing worked perfectly.
I am doing the same cause I have two. Will come with a free WII U.
Okay mate, nice visual flavor
Triggerhappytel
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Good for you bro. Is this not drive-by shitposting? You've come in to effectively say "I don't want this game" with no detail or context, and that's it.
reynal1287
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Quite shocking that you had one.
"You're holding it wrong" /Steve Jobs
StrongBlackVine
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Probably lying.
This is my point exactly. Most people who say this are salty and resort to trolling
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Deleted member 17706
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I totally agree with you, but they are also moments you want to experience for yourself, not see in a promotional video or as part of a site's early coverage. That's my take at least. They've just been showing so much of the story parts as part of their lead up to the game's release.
How the hell is this shit not bannable?
This is a leaked video from someone who's gotten the game early. Honestly I think RAD has been very guarded about the game and barely shown anything.
Being totally honest that was the first thing I thought after I watched that video, I'm not saying is a bad videogame, looks well made, but also looks like the kind of game I really don't wanna play.
I'm sure lots of people are going to enjoy it, power to you. I'm just tired with this type of AAA, probably getting old or something.
I'm sure lots of people are going to enjoy it, power to you. I'm just tired with this type of AAA, probably getting old or something.
This post and your tag go together in such gloriously stupid harmony
Sold both "next gen" consoles after a year tryout, not for me. Feel free to judge me based on a tag thought ¯\_(ツ
_/¯boredandlazy
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Sold both "next gen" consoles after a year tryout, not for me. Feel free to judge me based on a tag thought ¯\_(ツ
I think your post is enough.
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