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[ItWasMeantToBe19]

PJIII really dominated BYU, but he's doing nothing tonight.

Technically nobody bet with me. You can't lose a bet to a ghost. Also that was a fluke of a series...how many second half leads did they blow? Just a fluke

If Okafor plays like an NBA player in the first-round series, they lose to the Hornets pretty easily. The Hornets were starting Ariza, Landry, and Bellineli. That Lakers team sucked in the playoffs.

 

[obijkenobi]

True, but David Robinson was significantly better statistically than all but a few players in NBA history (like Jordan, Wilt, Kareem, maybe Russell, maybe LeBron, maybe Malone, maybe Shaq, maybe the Big O, but definitely top 10 in regular season stats) and that didn't lead to him winning any titles as the best player on his team.

I hear this a lot, but D Rob's second best player at any point before Duncan was probably Sean Elliot, who at best, was a border line all star. That said, I don't think D Rob had the killer instinct that the all time greats had (Jordan, Duncan, Kobe, Shaq, etc) but those Spurs teams had a massive drop in talent after Robinson.

 

[Boombloxer]

I hear this a lot, but D Rob's second best player at any point before Duncan was probably Sean Elliot, who at best, was a border line all star. That said, I don't think D Rob had the killer instinct that the all time greats had (Jordan, Duncan, Kobe, Shaq, etc) but those Spurs teams had a massive drop in talent after Robinson.

He also played with Rodman.

D-Rob's problem was that he ran into Hakeem.

 

[Vahagn]

Lebron shot a better % in the finals compared to all of the other series in last year playoffs. The reason he didn't do "great" was because he wasn't getting to the foul line because he mostly had to settle for bad shots, so he was deferring to Wade who was a monster.

Last year I credit TC, Carlisle, and Casey for installing a defensive mindset, but it's not the first time it's happened. The last time they made the Finals, Avery took over and installed the same mindset that defense was the main aspect in winning a championship, but they also had Jho and Jet playing great, and Harris in the Spur series. Of course they ultimately came up short, but they went deep into the playoffs.

I believe now that the Mavs know what it takes to win, they can still go deep in the playoffs with what they have. They're going to have some really good perimeter defense, and Haywood isn't nearly the scrub that Damp was.

Dude, I agree with a lot of what you're saying. But "had to settle". Lebron NEVER has to settle for bad shots. They put Barea and Kidd on him. Lebron settled for bad shots, but don't get it twisted, he didn't HAVE TO.


Also, you need to remember that D Wade basically played Dirk to a T. Their numbers were pretty similar and outside of that one bobbled ball by D Wade in the end of one of the games, he had a stellar series. Lebron was also responsible for guarding Terry in the fourth quarter and got dramatically outplayed in the fourth quarter in every game the Heat lost.


Make whatever statements you want, but Lebron getting outplayed by Terry 4 times in a playoff series should NEVER HAPPEN. Again, give the Mavs all the credit, someone had to TAKE that championship away from the Heat, and they did it.


I feel the same way about LA's chip in 2010. Boston was the better team (3 HOF'ers and 1 All star) versus Kobe+Pau and a bunch of great role players.


If Ray ray doesn't miss like 30 straight 3's and the whole celtics team doesn't get shell shocked at Perk going down or at the Lakers comeback at game 7, LA loses that series.

 

[thekad]

Dude, I agree with a lot of what you're saying. But "had to settle". Lebron NEVER has to settle for bad shots. They put Barea and Kidd on him. Lebron settled for bad shots, but don't get it twisted, he didn't HAVE TO.

Uh, no. The Mavs played great team defense.

 

[Darkman M]

Uh, no. The Mavs played great team defense.

Still shouldn't be able to hold Lebron to six points ever.

 

[obijkenobi]

He also played with Rodman.

D-Rob's problem was that he ran into Hakeem.

Don't remind me. My mom bought me Hakeem's shoes for my birthday one year. :/ I think she thought all basketball players were interchangeable. Little did she know, that was the ultimate troll present you could have gotten me at the time.

 

[Knux-Future]

Watching WV against Baylor. Miller looks more complete and Heslip/Acy look better too. Kevin Jones for WV looks better as well.

Perry looks talented but has no idea how to use it.

Yep I agree...and yet someone will take him high and get mad when he doesn't live up to the hype.

 

[MikeTyson]

Wouldn't it be crazy if the Cavs draft this Perry Jones or Barnes and they end up sucking like the soft tissue of my dick?

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Jones got punked for the 30th time, but the refs took pity on him so now Baylor is back in the game.

 

[DY_nasty]

At least Barnes actually is the best player on his team. That shit is doubtful for a lot of these other guys...

 

[dream]

Which one of you jerkfaces just offered me Big Baby Davis for Kyrie Irving?

 

[MikeTyson]

do it

 

[StickSoldier]

Still shouldn't be able to hold Lebron to six points ever.

Why not exactly? He has 2 of the best players in the league on his team, why does he have to try to play like he's on the Cavs? He had a bad game of course, but at least he didn't continue to shoot and he tried to defer to Wade who had 32 points on 65% shooting.

 

[dream]

do it

I'm tempted to after seeing Big Baby Davis come alive and lead his Magic to a comeback win over the Heat.

 

[DY_nasty]

Why not exactly? He has 2 of the best players in the league on his team, why does he have to try to play like he's on the Cavs? He had a bad game of course, but at least he didn't continue to shoot and he tried to defer to Wade who had 32 points on 65% shooting.

LBJ getting 6 points is like Kevin Love getting just 4 rebounds - he'd have to check out so hard that it'd almost be a conscious decision to not play.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, no team defense should be able to stop Miami - fortunately for the rest of the league, these douchebags would rather bitch about practice and count imaginary rings then put in the same amount of work they did when they first got in the league.

 

[Sharp]

Why not exactly? He has 2 of the best players in the league on his team, why does he have to try to play like he's on the Cavs? He had a bad game of course, but at least he didn't continue to shoot and he tried to defer to Wade who had 32 points on 65% shooting.

Real answer? Because he has a 300 or 400 game double-digit scoring streak (regular season trololol) that he will. Not. Let. Die. There was a game last season where he had, I think, 2 points midway through the third quarter, then went into panic mode and started jacking up shots until he got to 10. Then he relaxed and melted into the background, content not to score. LeBron really is all about his $tats--it was clear that not losing that streak meant far more to him than any championship ever could.

 

[reilo]

Why not exactly? He has 2 of the best players in the league on his team, why does he have to try to play like he's on the Cavs? He had a bad game of course, but at least he didn't continue to shoot and he tried to defer to Wade who had 32 points on 65% shooting.

True story: Michael Jordan has never scored below 20 points in any Finals game.

Also, true story: Lebron James averages 19PPG in 10 Finals games.

Also, true story: Michael Jordan has made less than 10FG only 7 times out of 35 games played in the Finals. That didn't happen until he was 33 and on a second three-peat.

Also, true story: Lebron James has made less than 10FG a whopping 9 times out of 10 games played in the Finals.

Ladies and gentleman, the best player of this generation.

According to PhoenixDark.

 

[Branduil]

True story: Michael Jordan has never scored below 20 points in any Finals game.

Also, true story: Lebron James averages 19PPG in 10 Finals games.

Also, true story: Michael Jordan has made less than 10FG only 7 times out of 35 games played in the Finals. That didn't happen until he was 33 and on a second three-peat.

Also, true story: Lebron James has made less than 10FG a whopping 9 times out of 10 games played in the Finals.

Ladies and gentleman, the best player of this generation.

According to PhoenixDark.

You weren't supposed to actually check his $tats.

 

[TheKaeptain]

The biggest difference between Jordan and Lebron is heart and determination. If Jordan would have been embarrassed by J.J. while trying to post up, MJ would have hired a midget to stay at his house so he could practice backing into him.

 

[Tom Penny]

True story: Michael Jordan has never scored below 20 points in any Finals game.

Also, true story: Lebron James averages 19PPG in 10 Finals games.

Also, true story: Michael Jordan has made less than 10FG only 7 times out of 35 games played in the Finals. That didn't happen until he was 33 and on a second three-peat.

Also, true story: Lebron James has made less than 10FG a whopping 9 times out of 10 games played in the Finals.

Ladies and gentleman, the best player of this generation.

According to PhoenixDark.

Yeah but Lebron is a better passer, rebounder, better 3 point shooter, better post player, guards forwards better and a is a better human being than MJ.

 

[Onemic]

I know people hate Carter. I'm aware that he's an underachiever and a choke artist. But people forget that some of his best years were playing beside Kidd. Carter is an upgrade over Peja. Odom is a major improvement any SF they were starting last year including Marion. They're still an extremely deep team. They've got Terry, Marion, and Beaubois all coming in off the bench. And yes, the center position is a massive problem but they're always going to be a contender with Dirk there.

Ya this too. Because that POS Carter is on the team I can never support them winning a championship, same with Bosh being on the heat. Fuck the Toronto traitors!

 

[MikeTyson]

I'm tempted to after seeing Big Baby Davis come alive and lead his Magic to a comeback win over the Heat.

Playing along side a decent big man for once in his career. Davis will be the soul and leader of the Magic now that he has no senior citizen who has a smashed asshole ragging on him after every play.

 

[Nori Chan]

You weren't supposed to actually check his $tats.

but his shirt is telling me to dawg

 

[darkside31337]

Which one of you jerkfaces just offered me Big Baby Davis for Kyrie Irving?

Don't do it brah. Big Baby is coming off the bench. Or should be anyway.

Stan doesn't want to start Big Baby but might do it to placate Dwight. It's a bit ironic since Big Baby should be coming off the bench for Dwight since the Magic don't really have anybody to sub in once Dwight gets into foul trouble which is basically every damn game.

I really don't think the Big Baby - Dwight combo is going to be on the floor as much as people think. The flip side being Rhino takes his playing time any way he gets it while Big Baby was already whining about coming off the bench in a damn preseason game. Either way both guys are going to average about 30 mins per.

 

[DY_nasty]

Orlando without Dwight isn't even Bobcats-good lol

 

[Branduil]

I hope Orlando keeps Dwight. Another playoff run with him is worth far more than Crippled Lopez or Bydumb.

 

[thekad]

Is it worth more than Terrence Williams, Johnny Flynn, and Jordan Hill? Now that's a trade package.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Is it worth more than Terrence Williams, Johnny Flynn, and Jordan Hill? Now that's a trade package.

Got to throw in Thabeet as well.

 

[Nori Chan]

Got to throw in Thabeet as well.

i thought dinosaurs were dead doe

 

[Duki]

Is it worth more than Terrence Williams, Johnny Flynn, and Jordan Hill? Now that's a trade package.

well, youd get more than a trade exception for it at least

 

[ThisWreckage]

Rhetorical scenario:

If Nash stayed in Dallas would he have a ring by now?

 

[jordan0386]

Rhetorical scenario:

If Nash stayed in Dallas would he have a ring by now?

No way to say. I mean they couldve went through growing pains to reach the finals. But when he was there, I dont think they were ready.

 

[ThisWreckage]

Stephen A. Smith is apparently spreading around that Kobe will ask for a trade if the Lakers do not get a better roster. First of all, I think he's full of shit, but what could an aging Kobe theoretically fetch in such a trade?

 

[Zep]

Andre Iguodala

 

[Hydrogen Bluebird]

Rhetorical scenario:

If Nash stayed in Dallas would he have a ring by now?

Probably not. Dirk became a much better player when Nash and Finley left. Not to say that he wouldn't have improved if Nash stayed in Dallas but he wouldn't have improved the way he did if Nash was still his PG.

 

[Branduil]

Stephen A. Smith is apparently spreading around that Kobe will ask for a trade if the Lakers do not get a better roster. First of all, I think he's full of shit, but what could an aging Kobe theoretically fetch in such a trade?

Lamar Odom.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Kobe is untradeable because of his contract.

edit: Is Kirk Hinrich good at all at this point in his career? Because if Harris continues to play really badly, trading him to the Hawks for Hinrich's expiring is one of the few possible moves that could be made.

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

Rhetorical scenario:

If Nash stayed in Dallas would he have a ring by now?

I don't think so. Dirk would have continued to defer and never would have worked to make it "his" team. Also Nash's lack of defense would probably get them at some point.

 

[SoulPlaya]

Stephen A. Smith is apparently spreading around that Kobe will ask for a trade if the Lakers do not get a better roster. First of all, I think he's full of shit, but what could an aging Kobe theoretically fetch in such a trade?

When was the last time that Stephen A Smith was right about anything?

 

[Duki]

lakers could amnesty him

lmao

 

[Branduil]

When was the last time that Stephen A Smith was right about anything?

The Decision.

 

[ThisWreckage]

When was the last time that Stephen A Smith was right about anything?

I think he's full of shit, but his claim is not impossible in the slightest. I have a feeling that LA is shopping Gasol because of the failed NO trade (just like they did with Odom) and if they don't get adequate talent back Kobe's going to be pissed. Even if they get Dwight Howard that team is still going to suck with Bynum and Gasol both gone.

 

[darkside31337]

Stephen A. Smith is apparently spreading around that Kobe will ask for a trade if the Lakers do not get a better roster. First of all, I think he's full of shit, but what could an aging Kobe theoretically fetch in such a trade?

Dwight for Kobe.

 

[Knux-Future]

Andre Iguodala

This sounds feasible.


Us getting an old and busted guy and expect that to turn us around.

lol

 

[smurfx]

Stephen A. Smith is apparently spreading around that Kobe will ask for a trade if the Lakers do not get a better roster. First of all, I think he's full of shit, but what could an aging Kobe theoretically fetch in such a trade?

well the lakers are probably going to implode thanks to mike brown being the coach so expect stupid shit this year from the lakers.

 

[Duki]

if he gets traded its totally to the bulls tho

 

[ryutaro's mama]

LTTP but Mike Brown is a moran for starting EBanks over EBank.

Fucking no brainer.

 

[DY_nasty]

Stephen A. Smith is apparently spreading around that Kobe will ask for a trade if the Lakers do not get a better roster. First of all, I think he's full of shit, but what could an aging Kobe theoretically fetch in such a trade?

A TPE

 

[Nori Chan]

LTTP but Mike Brown is a moran for starting EBanks over EBank.

Fucking no brainer.

yes