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2011 Fall Anime Thread - Bad Shows & Self Hating Nerds
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PdotMichael
Banned
Anne is fantastic!
Denpa Onna too!
And after I dropped Guilty Crown and Persona 4, I have now more time for the golden age stuff.
Denpa Onna too!
And after I dropped Guilty Crown and Persona 4, I have now more time for the golden age stuff.
hosannainexcelsis
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You're a total poser.PdotMichael said:
A Black Falcon
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I like Key a lot, and think that Angel Beats is probably the best of Key's four (five, six) animes. Only Kanon is close; it's clearly better than Clannad or Air.scy said:
Anyway, I absolutely reject the idea that liking Key means you have lower standards. That's absolutely false, they make great shows. It's a difference of opinion issue, not a matter of a difference of quality.
It does have constant mood whiplash, but that's the point, and it's done very well. The rest of that just isn't true, or is entirely opinion.icarus-daedelus said:
Crash Station
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PdotMichael said:
For now, you're just a wannable monocle, barely making the cut for class A. You got the douchiness down though.
A Black Falcon
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It's one of 2010's best shows for a reason.Aigis said:
hosannainexcelsis
Member
How's that persecution complex treating you?A Black Falcon said:
Fortunately I don't care what other people think, or else your persistence in believing that anyone who dislikes Angel Beats is part of some grand conspiracy would lead me to throw Kanon and Clannad under the bus as well.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Treasure ahead!Dresden said:
Unknown Soldier
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Hitokage said:
This is an example of cognitive dissonance.
A Black Falcon said:
I actually didn't care for Kanon as much as I did Clannad, oddly. Which is weird, in retrospect, since I hate Clannad's female lead with an undying passion.
As for lower standards, terrible word choice, really. Different standards? Not as picky? Something along those lines. Angel Beats I'll watch at some point and update on (probably after I finish The Tatami Galaxy?) and see which side of the fence I fall on.
Im@s 16
Yeah... what a terrible episode. No amount of production values is worth this. The episode itself was rather ugly too so it doesn't even have that excuse going for it.
Just give me a heads up whenever there's an episode that doesn't feature Jupiter, 961 Pro or retarded idol drama. I'm done here otherwise.
Yeah... what a terrible episode. No amount of production values is worth this. The episode itself was rather ugly too so it doesn't even have that excuse going for it.
Just give me a heads up whenever there's an episode that doesn't feature Jupiter, 961 Pro or retarded idol drama. I'm done here otherwise.
No, just watch episode 8 and feel free to drop it afterwards.icarus-daedelus said:
A Black Falcon
Member
The point of the show was to do an often tragic drama that also has a lot of comedy in it. They succeeded, and the mix works.Branduil said:
Why do you hate Angel Beats if you liked their other shows, then?hosannainexcelsis said:
Apart from you though, I think that, based on their words anyway. most of the Key haters here do seem to hate all of their shows, and the company in general, and act like their things are all so horrible that anyone who like them has terrible taste and likes bad shows or something, which is just not right.
Really, Key animes are the kind of thing that probably should be considered "monocle", if that referred to something about quality, because they are better made and more thoughtful than most anime. Key makes a specific kind of thing and does a very good job of it, making better tragic drama animes than most.
I'd guess that one reason the Key hate is so strong in the animegaf threads is because most people on GAF who do like Key aren't willing to constantly argue about it with the people who hate them, so they just don't say anything... understandable, circular arguments like this one do get annoying.
Clannad's okay, but yeah, I didn't like it nearly as much as Kanon...scy said:
Different standards is better, yeah.
No, it doesn't. It just requires a specific set of tastes, combined for a dislike of most anything that falls outside of them, I think.Hitokage said:
Key's writing is one of their strongest positive traits, and it's probably the main reason they got the substantial fanbase they have. You may dislike it, but that doesn't make it objectively bad. The direction and visuals of Angel Beats were quite good as well. It was clearly a pretty high production values show.Aigis said:
The show is bad, dude. I only need to point at one (major) aspect: tone. The show completely bounces back and forth and can not decide exactly what it is, and ends up being none of the things it is attempting and is just shit. It feels like something directed by a child. (in before "hahahaha ur 12 so u'd know" etc)A Black Falcon said:
Also,
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Praise the sun!Dresden said:
Dedication Through Light
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Only my third season in these anime threads and Angel Beats gets brought up for the umpteenth time, I think its, well I loved Angel Beats, pretty interesting to see the spectrum of comments about it. For the dub itself, I enjoyed it. Otonashi and Hinata need more roles. I will never forget it.
A Black Falcon said:
When I was lurking the threads, I thought higher of what "monocle" may have meant. Now? It's just a radically different set of tastes to mine so I just don't care~
Well, I'll see for myself when I see it. I feel like that, for the most part, Key writes (melodrama) stories fairly well. The issue, though, is whether or not you care enough about the cast to go with the story for it to be taken well; otherwise, it kind of gets taken as "o woe is meeeeee" and kind of silly. At least, that's my opinion on how it typically seems for the two sides of it.
Dresden said:
From what I read, I probably have tastes similar to DtL. Which makes me a heretic, I think. Time for the pitchforks and fire~!
PdotMichael
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Dedication Through Light said:
sometimes anime-gaf hate good stuff without good reason like Denpa Onna but Angel Beats is bad.
Crash Station
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scy said:
You aren't alone.
Infinite Justice
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i see we are back to Key hate and ABF valiantly defending. 
A Black Falcon
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I already said this, but the show was carefully designed to go back and forth between humorous and tragic elements. While at times I did find the tragedy somewhat overdone -- the character backstories are all unbelievably depressing -- overall they did a very good job of that. It was somewhat impressive how they managed to actually have some amusing humor in such a depressing situation...Aigis said:
Usually Key shows are much more tragedy than anything else, but they were trying something different with Angel Beats, both by adding in the comedy and by adding in the action scenes, to a greater degree than they've done before in their animes. Apart from what I said above, I think they mostly did a pretty good job with the action and tragedy elements. The comedy's usually good, too.
What's wrong with that picture? You don't explain.
Yeah, it took me quite a while to figure out what the whole "monocle" thing was about, and I still don't entirely get it, because based on the name I assumed that it had something to do with quality, but it clearly didn't based on examples such as this (and Key isn't the only one I'm sure).scy said:
But anyway, yeah, you've gotten it right there, I think. I mean, some things that are considered "monocle" are obviously great, but that doesn't mean their tastes should be considered across the board ideals for everyone.
They always try to make you like, and feel bad for, the characters, and I think they often succeed, but sure, if you don't, I certainly could see disliking their shows...
Heh... I just have different tastes from the orders on their monocle list, so I think I'm usually somewhere in the middle.
They aren't supposed to be blended, really, though... the humor parts and tragedy parts are separate for a reason. They were trying something different in its layout, and I'd say it worked out well.icarus-daedelus said:
The visuals are fine. Sure, it doesn't match KyoAni work, but Angel Beats looked better than most anime.
Infinite Justice said:i see we are back to Key hate and ABF valiantly defending.
The Wheel of Fate is turning.
A Black Falcon said:
The more I think about it, the more I'm pretty sure I'm just too laid back in regards to things. Which is odd, I'm usually pretty critical. Meh, whatever.
Got around to Guilty Crown 2.
Pretty okay aside from Shu still : (
Pretty okay aside from Shu still : (
I thought after going all glowy-eyed he'd stop being the worst but he did not improve at all. Woooow. Hopefully this is all an elaborate ploy to just end up having him killed off so Gai or literally anybody else can be the main character that would be pretty great.
The ending was pretty lol though. But I'm not sure how intent they will be on having horrible guy ruin my fun high school antics.
The ending was pretty lol though. But I'm not sure how intent they will be on having horrible guy ruin my fun high school antics.
Guilty Crown 2 - The MC can't start awesome, lest we lose the chance for 7 episodes of turmoil and inevitable character growth. But, seriously, I'm fine with the wimpy lead depending on how long it takes for him to be serious when it counts, barring any stupid
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I was digging crazy blonde dude villain until
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So far, I look forward to Gai
probably the most, if only due to
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And, of course,
. I may have been deluding myself, though, if this wasn't obviously going to happen.
Anyway:
Fanservice stuff wise ... man, I was expecting boobslosion everywhere. You people blow things out of proportions~! Really, though, just wish they were done a bit more tactfully rather than "LOOK LOOK ITS ASS AND LOOK BOOBS." Did we really need the camera to cut away for them? :/
I want to save everyone oshi they all died while I waffled
I was digging crazy blonde dude villain until
lol I'll tell my dad
spoiled brat. Hopefully he just becomes regular old crazy like when he flips out in the city--oh, wait, he died. Mm ... okay. That uh, that works too, I guesslolnm
So far, I look forward to Gai
eventually dying
the catalyst for events that it will serve in the grand scheme of things
And, of course,
lolschool
Anyway:
So there's going to be two more Inoris? At least, that's what it seemed like based off the existence of two other Genomes. Maybe Gai will get a toy eventually, though it's more likely they'll be on the other side of things. Hopefully the school direction doesn't become insipid but ... we'll see.
Fanservice stuff wise ... man, I was expecting boobslosion everywhere. You people blow things out of proportions~! Really, though, just wish they were done a bit more tactfully rather than "LOOK LOOK ITS ASS AND LOOK BOOBS." Did we really need the camera to cut away for them? :/
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
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Trust me there are plenty of people here who have opinions about shows they didn't even watch a single minute of.
You're already better than they are.
Dedication Through Light
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scy said:
Wait it was confirmed that he died? I didnt think MC would have actually had it in him to kill him, just to knock him out.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
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