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2011 Fall Anime Thread - Bad Shows & Self Hating Nerds

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Steroyd

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Peach Girl - 01

What the hell is this!? A kiss, a bitch of a friend being a bitch, Guy B with a non serious-like nonchalant confession to main girl, main girl likes guy A, guy A likes main girl, guy A confesses to main girl... and it's only the first episode.

*rips up shoujo script 1*

I mean it's obvious main girl is going to get with guy B, but dang this show wasted no time getting to this point.

doomed1 said:
Alright, I think I feel like hating myself today. Should I watch KissXSis or Yosuga no Sora?

Flip a coin.
 

jman2050

Member
doomed1 said:
Alright, I think I feel like hating myself today. Should I watch KissXSis or Yosuga no Sora?

KissXSis is Cocktease: The Anime. Unless your goal is TRULY hating yourself, go with
wincest
 

hellclerk

Everything is tsundere to me
jman2050 said:
KissXSis is Cocktease: The Anime. Unless your goal is TRULY hating yourself, go with
wincest
Yep, I truly want to hate myself, so KissXSis would probably be the best one.

Though to be honest I'll probably just catch up on Mirai Nikki instead. I'm mainly concerned about the boredom in between me hating myself properly.

Halycon said:
There's payoff every arc in YnS.
Yeah, but then I'd probably actually enjoy it and just end up hating the characters instead of myself, so unless it ends in NICE BOAT, I might just pass...
 
doomed1 said:
Alright, I think I feel like hating myself today. Should I watch KissXSis or Yosuga no Sora?
Um... I know it's not incest, but as far as self-hate and currently running anime, Maken-Ki would be the best bet, probably.

Yeah, but then I'd probably actually enjoy it and just end up hating the characters instead of myself, so unless it ends in NICE BOAT, I might just pass...
It doesn't. It does have twincest sex though, for fans of such things.
I have not watched any of KissXSis though, so I cannot compare them. Not that I watched much of Yosuga no Sora, I didn't, but part of an episode is more than zero.
 
Chihayafuru 6

This show continues to impress. Now Chihaya can believe in the heart of the cards! It would be nice if they sprinkled in more of the history of the poems later since that stuff is interesting to me.
 

Articalys

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For anyone interested, they just announced the TWGOK dub cast, with the two lead roles taken by the duo of Chris "Sousuke Sagara" Patton and Luci "Kaname Chidori" Christian, so they should at least have some great chemistry there.
 

Steroyd

Member
Peach Girl - 02

So that's how things will go down, an inverse chain of events.

*Cellotapes shoujo script 1 back*

That bitch friend can sure as hell get shit done.
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
Articalys said:
For anyone interested, they just announced the TWGOK dub cast, with the two lead roles taken by the duo of Chris "Sousuke Sagara" Patton and Luci "Kaname Chidori" Christian, so they should at least have some great chemistry there.
Why would someone dub this?
 

iavi

Member
Articalys said:
For anyone interested, they just announced the TWGOK dub cast, with the two lead roles taken by the duo of Chris "Sousuke Sagara" Patton and Luci "Kaname Chidori" Christian, so they should at least have some great chemistry there.

Patton as Keima? This is going to be... interesting. I can't see it working, but prove me wrong damnit.
 

Articalys

Member
Are there any recent interviews, commentaries, etc. where a company explains the reasoning behind why they chose to dub a given show? Or older ones, even?
 

Steroyd

Member
Maji de watashi - 06

Wakamoto.

poundit.gif


*chomp*
 
Companies do it because its just come to be expected as standard. I remember people made a bit of a stink when NIS announced they wouldn't be doing dubs for their shows.
 

cajunator

Banned
There are a couple of English Dub acrtresses that could fit the part but I cant think of specific names. but HILLARY HAAG? The voice of Rosette from Chrono Crusade? she's cute but not Shiori cute.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Jexhius said:
However, saying that, with a central conceit like karuta there's only so far that you can go. In this day and age it's unlikely that the anime will run long-enough to wear it out though.
Sports show are never really about the sport though. That's what makes them better than watching real sports.
 

cajunator

Banned
firehawk12 said:
Sports show are never really about the sport though. That's what makes them better than watching real sports.
Except Taisho Baseball girls which is actually completely about girls learning to play Baseball.
 

Shouta

Member
A Black Falcon said:
I don't know if Aika is a turning point, it's not exactly average even compared to most modern shows, in terms of volume of pantyshots... but you watch more older anime than most anyone here, yes, so if anyone here would know if they used to be as common as they are now, I'd think it'd be you.

...Aika was alright though, sure the fanservice is ridiculously overdone but the story's actually decent, and I do like how it's got a strong female lead who isn't subordinate to some generic male protagonist.

Aika is definitely a sort of turning point. There really wasn't an OVA prior to it that did it to that level. The panty shots of yore were pretty rare and pretty tame compared to now. It wasn't until around the time that Aika got released that it got outlandish. In fact, it's the gold standard still for ridiculous without being porn-like like say Queen's Blade or whatever that one aired recentl Manyuu... or something.
 

InfiniteNine

Rolling Girl
Articalys said:
For anyone interested, they just announced the TWGOK dub cast, with the two lead roles taken by the duo of Chris "Sousuke Sagara" Patton and Luci "Kaname Chidori" Christian, so they should at least have some great chemistry there.
Seems like a waste since I won't even listen to the dub.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Steroyd said:
I wonder if you can get away with that excuse for Ryu Ku Bo.
For the first half of the show, sure. It was basically Taishou Baseball Girls/A League of Their Own redux. Then it becomes loli bait.

scy said:
Prince of Tennis taught me many things.
Bishies be bishie!
 

hellclerk

Everything is tsundere to me
Mirai Nikki 1-4

I'm actually somewhat impressed. Yuna as the yandere isn't entirely straight-forward the anti-feminist anti-moe that the archetype implies. Rather, her character is
the descent of madness from a point prior to meeting the MC
. If certain doors were not opened, it might have devolved into a relatively tame, but still bloody romp with some impressive, and amusing opportunities for character study with possibly some bad drama at the end, when such doors would be important, but because that door was opened, the uncertainty is set to max and the tension was brought up another few notches. Don't tell me how wrong I am but
I suspect that Yuna has a Freudian excuse with the literal skeletons in her closet. I'm not even 100% sure she killed them herself
. Though I suppose that's sort of the point. Give enough info to keep the story moving, but keep enough away to keep the audience guessing. They're doing it pretty well so far without being too obvious about it. I'll get to 5 sooner or later.

Infinite Justice said:
you have to watch and see :p


"dance"
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

I haven't seen such flagrance since School Days >:|

I'm gonna hate myself after watching this, aren't I...
 
doomed1 said:
Mirai Nikki 1-4

I'm actually somewhat impressed. Yuna as the yandere isn't entirely straight-forward the anti-feminist anti-moe that the archetype implies. Rather, her character is
the descent of madness from a point prior to meeting the MC
.

I think there's a pretty even split among yanderes that start that way and ones that become that way over the course of the story.
 

cajunator

Banned
InfiniteNine said:
Seems like a waste since I won't even listen to the dub.
but I will! Except for the Shiori parts.

Hey guys, you wanna know a great semi-sports related anime? Ping Pong Club. It will change your life.
 

hellclerk

Everything is tsundere to me
cosmicblizzard said:
I think there's a pretty even split among yanderes that start that way and ones that become that way over the course of the story.
Yeah, but I think the point is
that she could have attached herself to anything, living, dead, sentient, or inanimate. Can we really call it Yandere if her madness was caused by a serious emotional trauma rather than the gold standard of yandere anti-feminism, "he's just not that into you"?
I may be reaching for something here, but I'd more likely classify her as "Broken Bird" that's descended into madness. But then, I've only seen up to 4, so I could be way off. The show has a nice little way of making you doubt everything you haven't seen 100%. That's actually what's drawing me to it.
 

jman2050

Member
I'm having way more fun watching people speculate about Mirai Nikki than I ever could have anticipated.

It will be fun to see the reactions week by week.
 
Toriko 30

Bogie is a crazy villain. 20 times the bones of normal humans, body possession, joint dislocation leading to stretchiness, and a simultaneous overbite/underbite. Kind of want to see more of him, but side villains never get any screentime after the arc ends. Oh well.

Tommyrod still freaky.
 

7Th

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icarus-daedelus said:
Short stories? Sure they do. Poetry is in a different class & difficult to directly compare because it is more dense by nature than probably any other medium, and certainly moreso than 90 second music videos set to pop music. (Unless you count lyrics as reeeaaally shitty poetry, haha.)

You're somehow under the assumption that only pop music gets music videos. And I think short stories can be as thought-provoking and artistically accomplished as novels if the writer is skilled enough.

icarus-daedelus said:
Anyway, I wouldn't argue that there is some specific definable line of crossover wrt length & quality, with animu OPs somewhere on the one side and La jetee on the other; but in the broad view I do think length matters for narrative mediums which are, after all, about communication. So, while greater length doesn't necessarily make something better, in film & literature both, within certain probably indefinable confines, it does allow for greater room for communication & exploration of ideas.

Difference in length makes things different, not deeper or better or worse. I don't think you need many words to say something worthwhile; the amount of words used to say something is more about the presentation than about the thematic content.

icarus-daedelus said:
I'm absolutely positive I've never seen a 90 second clip, even a really fab one, that would hold up in emotional or intellectual (or perhaps aesthetic) value to even a merely 'good' feature film.

That's a pretty anecdotic argument, though; and I don't think that aesthetic value has anything to do with length.

icarus-daedelus said:
Think about that a bit more.

There is nothing to think about. Anime OPs don't gimp the show they belong to at all. OPs are produced in a way that gives breathing room to the production staff; and, in shows in which the OP changes during their run, when the staff is genuinely "too busy" with the show itself to work on the new OP, what they do is invite external people that wouldn't have worked in the show if it wasn't for the OP. Case in point: Eureka Seven OP 3.
 
doomed1 said:
Yeah, but I think the point is
that she could have attached herself to anything, living, dead, sentient, or inanimate. Can we really call it Yandere if her madness was caused by a serious emotional trauma rather than the gold standard of yandere anti-feminism, "he's just not that into you"?
I may be reaching for something here, but I'd more likely classify her as "Broken Bird" that's descended into madness. But then, I've only seen up to 4, so I could be way off. The show has a nice little way of making you doubt everything you haven't seen 100%. That's actually what's drawing me to it.

It doesn't matter how they got there. If someone acts like a yandere, they are a yandere, Freudian excuse or not. There is no "gold standard".

jman2050 said:
I'm having way more fun watching people speculate about Mirai Nikki than I ever could have anticipated.

It will be fun to see the reactions week by week.

I think a lot of minds will be blown when a certain reveal happens. Anime staff will probably handle it pretty damn well.
 

hellclerk

Everything is tsundere to me
cosmicblizzard said:
It doesn't matter how they got there. If someone acts like a yandere, they are a yandere, Freudian excuse or not. There is no "gold standard".
I more mean that Yandere, as an archetype speaks so much more loudly when the breaking point is rejection or fear of rejection. The implications start to run wild when a woman snaps into lunacy simply because she fears for the "power" she holds over her object of affection. In that regard, it becomes a classic anti-feminist symbol, yet another one of the "wicked wives" that drive men to their destruction.

Yuna still certainly qualifies as a yandere, but it doesn't speak as strongly as if she was a "true" yandere;
a normal crazy stalker chick, as opposed to one with a history. Stalking is the effect, not the cause.
Don't get me wrong though. It makes Yuna a much more interesting character as a result, not to mention a character that the audience will seek to relate to on some level (though not entirely). Like I said, I'm interested in how this will turn out.
 
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