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2011 NBA Mar |OT| Now listening to the Stan Van Gundy mixtape

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reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Am I dreaming or are the Knicks really down 17 to CHA? I couldn't have trolled this better if I tried.
 

Darkman M

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diehard

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It's almost as if you take 2 of the worst defenders in the league, start them with a terrible defensive coach.. that would end up with an atrociously bad defensive team. Amazing.
 

Derwind

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Just realized the Raps & Clipshow are bothing playing tonight and both coming off of a road loss.

Get ready for some shameball!

Hopefully Blake deflowers Bargnani so he can wake up & go back to raising his trade value. Above the meagerly low value it is set at the moment.
 
Apparently they're moving Millsap to SF, this ruined AK's career. And does this mean they're going to try CJ and Hayward at SG? Because those guys are SFs...Ehh, there aren't any wings in the NBA anymore (As evidenced by CJ being a top ten SF by most metrics) and Burks is the only one in this draft so maybe it's the best strategy.
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Omiee said:
man the knicks have been playing horribly as of late, what happened?

They traded away half of their team?

Have you been watching the Nuggets lately? Fire.
 
Putting it another way:


When CJ Miles, Bad Porn, Dorrell Wright, and the corpse of AK47 are statistically four of the best thirteen of a position in the league, that position really sucks.


I'm not saying CJ is a good player, okay?


edit: Thinking about how a Millsap-Favors-Al frontline would work is making me realize that it wouldn't. All three guys would post up on every possession. And Millsap might actually be able to make our three point defense worse...
 

Kogepan

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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Putting it another way:


When CJ Miles, Bad Porn, Dorrell Wright, and the corpse of AK47 are statistically four of the best thirteen of a position in the league, that position really sucks.


I'm not saying CJ is a good player, okay?


edit: Thinking about how a Millsap-Favors-Al frontline would work is making me realize that it wouldn't. All three guys would post up on every possession. And Millsap might actually be able to make our three point defense worse...


Millsap at ~7 million over the next 2 years would fetch a nice price on the trade market. AL at 14 million would be tough to move.
 

Kogepan

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Gabyskra said:
Felton is so much better than Billups... Especially at defense. Billups didn't lose a step, he lost a marathon.


Does Anthony have any other move other than squeezing the ball for 5 seconds and then bullying his way to hte basket? horrible call btw..
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
There's something seriously not right when Shelden Williams is scoring the way he is...
 

Omiee

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close game again for the knicks, i think the only reason they are going to make the playoffs is because of all the wins they got at the first half of the season without melo
 
CJ with two nice transition dunks.


Kogepan said:
Millsap at ~7 million over the next 2 years would fetch a nice price on the trade market. AL at 14 million would be tough to move.



There's no one to move either for. Granger and Iggy are definitely players they should go after, but I don't think those guys are on the block and they're the only quality wings who have been available.
 

dream

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Omiee said:
close game again for the knicks, i think the only reason they are going to make the playoffs is because of all the wins they got at the first half of the season without melo

Hah, sneaking into the playoffs on the backs of Felton and Gallo. I like that.
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Omiee said:
close game again for the knicks, i think the only reason they are going to make the playoffs is because of all the wins they got at the first half of the season without melo

Pretty much.

Welp, another loss. This team is going to the shitter quick. Expect some massive reshuffling in the off-season. D'Antoni is all but gone at this point.
 

Gabyskra

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AlphaSnake said:
Welp, another loss. This team is going to the shitter quick. Expect some massive reshuffling in the off-season. D'Antoni is all but gone at this point.

They can't reshuffle. Not like they can move either of the 2 stars. Anyone beyond them and Douglas and Fields is almost irrelevant. I miss the early season's team so much.
 

Omiee

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the trade was stupid periode, yeah you have 2 great players but no way your coming out of the first round of the playoffs. Their old team was way better and young to.
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
At least I get redemption from all of this. Every last one of my friends were so gung-ho about the Melo trade, it always led to some passionate (loud) debates, arguing, and yelling at bars, the office, and our houses. I've sent them all a text message:

To you bitches: how you like your crow? Fried or fertilized?
 

Kogepan

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AlphaSnake said:
Pretty much.

Welp, another loss. This team is going to the shitter quick. Expect some massive reshuffling in the off-season. D'Antoni is all but gone at this point.

what can they really do? They already committed to Billups didn't they? So they are ALREADY at 58 million not including cap holds for the empty roster spots.
 

dream

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I take back what I said last week about the Knicks having more longterm potential than the Heat. This shit cannot be salvaged.

Who knew we'd actually see a trade worse than the one Boston made?
 

Kogepan

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Omiee said:
the trade was stupid periode, yeah you have 2 great players but no way your coming out of the first round of the playoffs. Their old team was way better and young to.

carmelo is one of the most overrated, one dimensional players ever. Unless you're gonna to tailor a team specifically to his skills (Nene/Affalo etc) its never gonna work. He's a horrible fit with Stoudemire.
 
The long lost Brooklyn boy returns to New York. The prodigal son tries to be the savior of his hometown team, lead the Knicks back to the promised land. He talks of NBA championships, of turning around a woebegone franchise.

The era started with so much promise, but Stephon Marbury and his bloated contract plunged the Knicks into an even darker age. And just two years after Donnie Walsh finally finished cleaning up one of the most colossal busts in franchise history, it may be happening all over again.

Meet Stephon Marbury 2.0, better known as Carmelo Anthony. Yes, he's a software upgrade, bigger and stronger than his predecessor, and slightly more stable (we think) than the last prodigal son the city absolutely had to have.

But as wild as this may sound, a month into his Knick career, Melo has already shown bugs, signs that his story could play out like the mercurial Starbury's fall from grace. Already, the player who was serenaded by Diddy's "I'm Coming Home" as he made his Knick debut at the Garden has caused waves, criticizing teammates for not getting him the ball and complaining about game plans. He has brazenly left the media hanging after a road loss, even pouted on the bench.

No, it's not vintage Marbury. Anthony's sniping with the coach has been only verbal, and he has gone AWOL only after a game, not during a practice. But truth is, this is how Marbury started out, too.

Long before he was inviting interns into his car, Starbury was right where Anthony is now. He was brought in by Isiah Thomas - the same guy who some say swayed James Dolan into throwing in a kitchen sink and an equipment boy to be named later to reel in Melo - and landed with a coach on his way out (Don Chaney) and a team with a gaping hole at center. Marbury promised an NBA title and an unselfish playing style in his first Broadway days in early January of 2004, then dashed everyone's hopes about a week later. "Rome wasn't built in a day," he would say.

Not what Knicks fans want to hear, said Magic forward Quentin Richardson, who played with Marbury in New York from 2005-09.

"You're a big star, you're that good. The fans, they expect you to do good stuff for the team," Richardson said.

Sounds familiar, doesn't it? About a month ago, Anthony was promising plenty of "good stuff," and we don't mean that upcoming reality show he and wife Lala Vazquez have in the works. When he joined a Knick team with a coach on the hot seat (Mike D'Antoni) and a Smurf center (Ronny Turiaf), Anthony talked excitedly of not needing to score "25-30 a night," and NBA titles danced in fans' minds.

Then last week, Melo went all young Marbury on us, telling everyone that the Knicks might not get things together "until next season," and suggesting that the best way to prep for the playoffs would be to "relax" and "have fun." And suddenly, D'Antoni is Chaney. Just as Garden crowds once chanted "Fire Chaney," a low chant rose from a few stragglers in the waning moments of Wednesday's loss to the Magic, a whisper-quiet: "Fire "D'Antoni."

We know how Marbury's story ended. He made his lone Knick playoff appearance that first season and was bounced by the Nets in the first round, setting the stage for his career tailspin. Even as the Knicks tried to build around him, Marbury would feud with coach after coach - and reportedly come to blows with pal Isiah Thomas - as he went from embraced to vilified.

Walsh finally bought Marbury out in 2009. Marbury is now playing in China.

We want to believe this won't be Melo's future, that this local boy is a better than the last local boy ever was. Never mind that the Nuggets are playing better without their superstar, just as the Suns and Nets flourished after Marbury vacated. Never mind that the whole Anthony circus signaled a return to days of excess before Walsh pared payroll, dead weight and Marbury.

Anthony is an Olympian and a proven scorer. Just like Marbury was.

So yes, the Melo era started with promise. But beware of a dark age.

Ether.
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Kogepan said:
what can they really do? They already committed to Billups didn't they? So they are ALREADY at 58 million not including cap holds for the empty roster spots.

I don't think they've committed to him past this season, actually. There's some talk of 2011-2012, but nothing has been finalized. I honestly don't see him sticking around.
 
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