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Red Blaster
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racist
MorisUkunRasik
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DY was one use of the word 'back' from getting banned.
MorisUkunRasik
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While both are unlikely, the latter is the more likely of the two.
4 games behind Miami with 5 games to go? Boston catching up.
Bay Maximus
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I agree totally. The Knicks are one of the few teams in the East that scare me as far as playoff matchups. Let the Heat and them go at it.
likedamaster
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Nets beating Miami? lol ...Oh wait, let me not jinx it. 
Neither.
Indi should get 4 of their last 5
Heat should get 4 of their last 6 (after the nets game)
Celts should get 3 of 5
Unless the heat completely lose the plot the top 3 in the east will stay the same.
Syphon Filter
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lebron gives zero fucks.
Black Mamba
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I don't understand how, really. He's been amazing from what I've seen and I've seen him a lot.
Is this your argument. The "make other players better" thing?
uh, Griffin is better on offense this year. His efficiency is up (55% fg vs 51%). The only reason Griffin's scoring is down is his FT% which cannot, in any way, be attributed to CP3.
I think people thought Griff would take a massive leap this year and are disappointed he hasn't. And his D blows. But offensively, despite taking too many jumpers, he is an improved offensive player (outside FT%). He's way more in control in the post, for example.
DeAndre is also somewhat improved (not including his FT%). His FG% is almost 65% and while lower than last season, he is a starter (opposed to 2nd unit guy) and has taken more shots per game.
Foye improved, as you mentioned. The only other player to discuss is Butler (Mo plays off the bench). But I called Butler regressing and he is coming off a major knee injury. I don't think there's anything Deron, Cp3, or Magic Johnson could have done to change Caron. Either he'll be back better next year when his knee stabilized, or Caron Gomes it is forever, as I called this offseason.
And Del Negro is a moron.
Anyway, Deron wouldn't be doing any better in LA. He'd personally play worse and so would everyone else. I'm going to say it, Clips don't make the playoffs with Deron over CP3.
charsase said:
Deron is bigger and stronger, but he loses his dribble way more often than CP3. I don't even understand how this is up for debate. CP3 is by far and away the best ball handler in the NBA. He gets into the spots on the floor he wants to go with a low dribble that no one can reach.
I don't give a fuck about crossover. It doesn't lead to him being a better player.
Deron loses his dribble or is stolen from his dribble twice as often as CP3 is. Twice.
Jeff said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DOPxDeGE20
Not that it matters. being able to be more flashy doesn't mean shit on who is a better ball handler. Cp3 dribbles the ball a lot more than Deron and loses it a lot less often and gets inside the 15 foot range a lot more, too.
giri said:
Deron's best season has never been close to as good as Cp3's worst, TOV% wise. You act like Deron has only ever been on New Jersey. You forget about his Utah days already when he was on a good team? CP3 turned it over a lot less last season with scrubs than Deron did on a 55+ win team.
The reason they run CP3 isos is because Blake/Martin/Jordan can't shoot FTs. If he dumps the ball to Blake with 2 min left, the other team will simply foul him if he sniffs the basket.
And no other player besides those 2 can create their own shot besides Mo, who often is on the bench because he's too small to defend 2 guards alongside CP3.
Honestly, it's their only play they can run at the end.
Pop gonna ruin our tank
Can't the W's just forfeit? or for the sponsors do y'all have to at east make it look like a game?
Pop gonna ruin our tank
He wants them fresh against LA. He usually doesn't play his stars against Phil Jackson LA in the regular season because he knows he's 1-5 against Phil in the playoffs and wants the mind games.
This time, it reversed. Lakers trounced them without Kobe, they can't afford to get trounced again, Pop wants that W tomorrow
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Jazz are super hot from three, the Mavs are ice-cold, not sure this going to continue...
Black Mamba
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Pop gonna ruin our tank
What is this bullshit? 1st game of a b2b2b2b they tank? Tank the LAL game, Pop!
I guess being embarrassed means they want to win in LA to gain confidence? What if Lakers wi, anyway, though? Isn't that even worse?
I was hoping Pop would tank our game, play the other 2. Sigh.
He had to stay the course
lol, joel anthony turns it over trying to throw to JAMES JONES IN THE POST and then gives up the and 1
I'm not even going to get into the CP3 argument with you again, we simply (and many others are on both sides) disagree on who is better.
They're so similar, and so close, that you can't just look purely at the stats, even in past years.You have to compare the systems and team styles. CP3 has always been a stats monster. And he's obviously very good.
I'd just rather Deron, as i think he's better.
They're so similar, and so close, that you can't just look purely at the stats, even in past years.You have to compare the systems and team styles. CP3 has always been a stats monster. And he's obviously very good.
I'd just rather Deron, as i think he's better.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Derrick Favors is pretty awesome.
Syphon Filter
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hump putting in work
likedamaster
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Sucks I can't watch the nets beat Miami on league pass just because I'm in S.Florida.
Edit: Nets ain't backing off are they?
Edit: Nets ain't backing off are they?
Dude just abused Bosh right there.
Black Mamba
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But even the non-stat arguments are in CP3's favor. Deron played in Sloan's system and couldn't even be better than CP3 under VDN, Scott, or Monty.
I don't think they're similar at all. I think Deron is a very good player and CP3 is an all-timer when it's all said and done. CP3's command of a basketball game is superb.
It's like people trying to argue Bynum is as good as Dwight.
Whatever. You think melo > bron, too.
CoffeeJanitor
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Blake is going to make a huge jump next year. I'm pretty sure stars usually make their biggest improvements from year 2 to 3.
LeBron being clutch. What?
That's a terrible analogy to use in the CP3 vs. Deron arguement, breh.
That's a terrible analogy to use in the CP3 vs. Deron arguement, breh.
Huh? The only non-stat argument there are is subjectivity and wins. Deron has won more than Paul.
I don't seem to remember Jordan getting owned consistently by one of his contemporaries, so no, it isnt.
Black Mamba
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I was trying to think of the right comparison. This is pretty good.
Miami should just shut it down til postseason, for the most part.
Deron playing with a much better team. CP3 on Utah makes the Finals once at least.
Would be like saying Horry > Webber. horry won more!
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Dirk liked more Derrick Favors by the refs, fffff.
If Vinny D is fired and a defense-focused coach is brought in to get to try on defense, then sure.
If Vinny D is fired and a defense-focused coach is brought in to get to try on defense, then sure.
And Deron doesn't get embarrassed by Billups like Paul was.
Syphon Filter
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vintage lebron
Black Mamba
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good to know Lebron is aggressive in the 4th without Wade against the Nets sans Deron while Humphries is defending him.
baby steps....
No, he gets embarrassed by Fisher...
baby steps....
No, he gets embarrassed by Fisher...
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Fucking Nets.
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