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Blackace
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It took you this long to realize barnes is over hyped? I realized this kid was over hyped half way through is freshman season.
Future PhaZe
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Terrence Jones doesn't remind me of Beasley...doesn't like the face up as much as him and will transition a lot better to SF. He'll be a solid slasher that can board a little bit at the next level.
Blackace
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He is not even the best jones in the draft
Jones is... well, he's the definition of a gamble imo
There was never a point where I said he wasn't.
HOWEVER - I still believe, like the majority of UNC fans, that Roy Williams guarded him better than anyone else in the country. There locker room shit wasn't a secret. Neither is his coaching philosophy post-KU. He's a good player. Just not a franchise saving player. He should never have been a top 3 pick.
There was never a point where I said he wasn't.
HOWEVER - I still believe, like the majority of UNC fans, that Roy Williams guarded him better than anyone else in the country. There locker room shit wasn't a secret. Neither is his coaching philosophy post-KU. He's a good player. Just not a franchise saving player. He should never have been a top 3 pick.
Future PhaZe
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Hopefully you're not talking about Perry Jones...
Other than Davis I wouldn't be surprised if Terrence had the best +/- on Kentucky. He got out on the break a ton, slapped a ton of balls loose and got a lot of 50/50 balls and rebounds with his toughness. He took a back seat offensively this year. He'll be a solid pick up for a team picking a bit late.
Perry is way too passive to ever become anything.
Barnes to UNC and Austin Rivers to Duke were 2 of the dumbest commitments I've seen in a while. None of those programs fit the player.
With that said Roy wasn't too blame. Barnes is passive and his first step is worst than Matt Barnes. I'm not sure he's better than Matt.
Future PhaZe
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No reason to reach for potential in this draft. I would take Withey and Meyers Leonard over Drummond right now. It's extremely hard to break out of the AAU mentality...Wall is struggling to improve his IQ after not learning basketball for 95% of his career and Drummond will face the same problem.
CoffeeJanitor
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Injured list now for wolves
Rubio
Ridnour
Pekovic
Barea
Beasley
Kevin love is currently wondering why god hates him
Rubio
Ridnour
Pekovic
Barea
Beasley
Kevin love is currently wondering why god hates him
Blackace
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No way, the dude has a chance to be really special... Why not shoot for the moon? He has Kemp/STAT like bounce... At the worst he becomes Swift, which would suck... But he has a chance to be dope.. Just like Wall...
He might have the most "upside" in the draft..
Blackace
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Thou Shall Not Curb Stomp Thy Neighorbor During a Match
Blackace
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Seth Curry to Duke.. Dumb dumb dumb
Future PhaZe
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I won't count anything out...I mean T-Rob played behind the Morris Twins for two years before he got his chance to shine...I just hate having to pay a guy millions to teach him the fundamentals of basketball...
He should have just taken his ass to NCSU or Wake and been a star.
Blackace
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I don't pay Em shit...
Also it just clicks for some bigs.. Like Stat,D12, or Kemp...
Blackace
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He could have been a star in almost any other program
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I really don't know what Drummond's offensive upside is. When you can't make layups or free throws and airball jumphooks (and do that 100% of the time as well) in college, there may be way too much to learn how to do to become competent. It would be a pretty huge surprise if he averages 13 PPG or more in the NBA imo.
And T Jones is good defensively and actually has PF-size so I think he'll be way better than Beasley.
And T Jones is good defensively and actually has PF-size so I think he'll be way better than Beasley.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Ryno is out for tonights game.
Jameer and Dwight are game time decisions.
Magic are totally going to blow the 3 seed. Sigh.
Jameer and Dwight are game time decisions.
Magic are totally going to blow the 3 seed. Sigh.
I hate how Orlando is dragging this out.
Blackace
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His FT are a real concern...
Personally his numbers outside of that weren't bad for a freshman.. Hopefully he has the will to want more...
Red Blaster
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Tanking to the 4th spot so they can play Indiana in the 1st round
Thing is Barnes went from over hyped to under hyped. People acting like he is some scrub are insane. Dude will probably never make an all star team but I'd be shocked if he wasn't a solid starter/sixth man for a decade. A young Stephen Jackson but less balls (has big pluses and minuses there) with better shooting/less shooting with a better shot selection. Dude will be under rated/under paid his first contract or two and then get an insane granger/Turk/Lewis deal and be overpaid as fuck.
If he is an all star, or not a 13-18 ppg guy most of his career after his rookie year I'd be shocked either way.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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His numbers aren't bad, but he killed UConn's offensively. Teams didn't pay any attention to him because they knew if he got passed the ball, he would either miss a layup or throw a pass that was either terrible and a turnover or just led UConn to reset the offense. His efficiency was pretty horrible for a guy who didn't take shots further than five feet from the basket. He can really defend pick-and-roll and block shots, but I think his offensive ceiling may be Tyson Chandler where he just dunks.
pretty much exactly how I feel
Blackace
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Tyson became a lot better... And if somehow Andre got paired with a good coach and PG he could be real nasty
ratcliffja
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Awesome.
Future PhaZe
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Short of teaming with CP3 didn't it basically take Tyson like nearly a decade to actually become a decent basketball player?
Do not want
CoffeeJanitor
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I think its a stephen jackson thing
Gully State
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My prediction: Warriors are going to have at least the 7th worst record
only to have someone with a better record leapfrogging us to get the 1st overall pick- sending our pick to Utah
A young guy like Drummund the coach/environment is everything.
If he goes to Sacramento? Dude will be a waste of talent/out of shape/overpaid dude his whole career.
But if he went to Houston or Denver? Dude might have a shot at actually becoming a solid player.
Blackace
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Game changing D is always horrible
Blackace
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Yeah, agreed.. But bottom line is he has to want to become one of the greatest..
You know, sometimes i forget, like most other people, how good pau is and why teams like the rockets and bulls are clamoring for him. Looking back at these highlights just fascinates me. Freaking pau.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thzqmMuncV8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thzqmMuncV8&feature=related
It's a bit insensitive but i guess no one care since we are all well fed.
ClovingWestbrook
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An epic post made by Morris at the other forum with an assist by The Clove.
That was for you BA! Get it? The Clove like The Glove! yeahhh!
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
True. As if cancer patients aren't suffering enough...
Funny thing is I actually believe that the Bulls would have won if Rip hadn't played, lol. Also, I wish Thibs knew what he was doing on offense. How he allowed Lucas, Watson, and Korver to just keep chucking shots while Deng, Boozer, and Noah were playing well is beyond me.
And the first freshmen to be a first team preseason all american. Way to ruin the first time.
Terence Jones is a guy I would pass on. He seems to be an asshole and thinks he's better than what he actually is. Kid thinks he can be a big 3 when he's a 4 with a little bit of perimeter game.
Future PhaZe
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Lamb or Beal.
Lamb is the second best prospect in the draft. He a great athlete and his first step will be one of the best in the NBA. And he's a really good ball handler. Now here's a guy that has a case for his team sucking. Besides him everyone else was mediocre at best. Napier is straight up trash. He would fit in with the guards on Baylor who were obviously auditioning for the NBA first and playing to win games second.
Drummond is soft as hell. He's a prime example of what's wrong with high school hoops. This kid was done a great disservce by his coaches in HS and AAU. You see all these HS highlights of this kid dancing around on the perimeter and have to ask yourself, "WTF?!?" 6'11 260 lbs and you have him dancing around like a guard? They should have told this kid to always run to a block, get position and wreck shop.
Rivers is going to be nice pickup for someone. He's the best PnR player in this draft. He's a selfish asshole, but he at least realizes what skills are needed for a guy to be one of the top offensive options on an NBA team. The question is will he learn how to play with a team outside of PnR situations? Or deal with people in general because he's the biggest asshole I've seen in a good while.
Two guys to watch are Terrence Ross(better prospect than Barnes imo and could be better than Barnes and MKG in the NBA) and Tony Wroten Jr. Both guys are athletic and have games that are made for the NBA.
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