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You mind clarifying instead of just one word answers?
hahahaha i love how no one cares about two end of the road places in the midwest.
Y'all fighting over table scraps.
You have Lebron James, Dwyane Wade, and Chris Bosh in their prime playing on the same team together.
And your argument is that "fuck, if only they had JJ Barea and DeShawn Stevenson, they would have won it all last year!"
What nonsense.
Excuses for what? I expect MIA to beat any team in the East in a 7 game series. That doesn't stop them from being a flawed team.
Justin Timberlake
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Crazy concept:
How well role players play is generally related to how well star players set them up. Sometimes, the role player is just garbage and it can't be helped, but even Robert Horry, Steve Kerr, etc couldn't hit many 3s if they were all contested.
How well role players play is generally related to how well star players set them up. Sometimes, the role player is just garbage and it can't be helped, but even Robert Horry, Steve Kerr, etc couldn't hit many 3s if they were all contested.
There is only one ball. The of impact three stars is heavily diminished when they can only produce so much. You all argued this that offseason this shit came together but seem to have forgotten as it don't applies to your current argument, which is to be expected.
What?
Also the shooters for MIA get a shitload of wide open looks, not sure where you're going with this. Hell the Cavs proved that even if you get wide open looks the shooter still has to be able to knock them down.
The narrative you're trying to sell is bullshit. Everyone knows it. You want people to believe they did not take the easy road by joining forces in their prime, you want people to believe they go through heroic moments, etc. You're already afraid that even if they win, it is all going to be meaningless. You're already afraid that if they win just one or two titles, they'll be made fun of for selling out everything that made people love the NBA in the 90s. Bitch players, bitch team, bitch fans.
"It's not start studded".
"There is only one ball".
Sophism 101, Triple U will be your substitute teacher.
No, I argued that Lebron is a flawed player whose flaws become even more pronounced in the playoffs. Ditto for Bosh.
Unless you want to argue that Miami lost because Mike Miller nor James Jones stepped up, instead of Lebron averaging 18PPG on 35FG% and 6TOPG or whatever stupid numbers he put up.
Justin Timberlake
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God damnit Gaby.
You are supposed to wait a few posts before you go for the heart.
Can't go from A->B->cooooold bloooded immediately
smh
Red Blaster
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Magic in 7
Fat Mamba's gonna average 25/10 and the Granger taint will sink the Pacecars.
lol wtf? Miami has Wade, Lebron and Bosh. They have great 3 point shooting and one of the top defensive teams. They lost last season because Lebron and Wade bitched up against the Mavs and while bitching up they still didn't want to give Bosh a lot of touches.
Yeah and when you can't hear shit, it sounds like the American Airlines Arena
Go root for the Dolphins.
MorisUkunRasik
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Shhheeeeeiiiiiitttt
What the fuck are you talking about? I mean really? You spouting off a whole bunch of bullshit brother, I don't give one fuck about the Heat.
There is nothing easy about putting like 70% of a teams production on three players. Its quite dumb actually.
Dude you all were saying that shit. Do I really have to go back?
Justin Timberlake
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I bet if we took a sampling of every player Lebron has played with, we'd find that on the whole, players get significantly worse statistically when they join his teams.
Daaayuuuum
gaby goin' iiinnn
And I'd bet you are wrong. Ask JJ hickson and varejo.
You're gonna be angry, bitter and tearful after the Heat choke in the playoffs again. Once Lebron started worrying about his image more than anything else he grew a vagina where his taint was. Then he went to Miami and everyone else turned into hermaphrodites too.
For the past five years I have been saying that Lebron is a playoff failure and that as long as he was the go-to player for a team that he would never win a championship.
Do you want to go back? Do you really want me to dig up the argument that got you your current username?
WTF is this supposed to mean? They produce less than OKCs three with a way worse supporting cast.
Black Mamba
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you're very strange.
Dominican Power
Member
Akron is a hellhole full of hoodlums and two-faced pricks who rally & root "for LeBron, not Cleveland." What horseshit. Most of the fans that go to Cavs games are 23-30 miles away.
You zips got excited because Jim Tressel came to town.
Am I supposed to be scared?
And cleveland is a snob town filled with assholes who somehow think they have the ability to look down on someone. Its like they don't realize its still Ohio.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
OKC's top scorers:
Durant (28PPG)
Westbrook (24PPG)
Harden (17PPG)
...
Ibaka (9PPG)
Cook (5PPG)
Perkins (5PPG)
That star-studded line-up.
Meanwhile, in Miami:
Lebron (27PPG)
Wade (22PPG)
Bosh (18PPG)
...
Chalmers (10PPG)
Cole (7PPG)
Haslem (6PPG)
Looks like to me that Durant and Westbrook have to do more.
Barrage
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Are spoiled ass Bulls fans in this thread really talking about blowing up a 1 seed? The fuck outta here. Unless you can get Gasol or better, this is the team you should roll with, and win a shitful of games for the next half-decade.
...Did you really compare Ibaka to Chalmers, and Perkins to Haslem, and try to claim they're equal?
reilo said:
...Did you really compare Ibaka to Chalmers, and Perkins to Haslem, and try to claim they're equal?
Red Blaster
Member
They're probably not good enough to win a title and it's not like Boozeface and Noah are going to get any better.
Justin Timberlake
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JJ Hickson:
2008-2009 (w/Lebron): 4 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 12.5 PER in 11 mpg
2009-2010 (w/Lebron): 8.5 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 15.2 PER in 21 mpg
2010-2011 (Lebron leaves): 13.8 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 1.1 apg, 15.6 PER in 28 mpg
Anderson Varejao:
2009-2010 (w/Lebron): 8.6 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 15.8 PER in 29 mpg
2010-2011 (Lebron leaves): 9.1 ppg, 9.7 rpg, 15.2 PER in 32 mpg
note: Varejao was injured much of 2011 so his numbers are quite a bit worse than they'd normally be
Perkins is terrible. Ibaka isn't all that good, either. Triple U is talking out of his ass, again.
CherryWoodFuton
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I love how heat bench = me talking about wade/lbj/bosh
And btw enjoy your sold out arena as you suffer another season of mediocrity knicks age
And btw enjoy your sold out arena as you suffer another season of mediocrity knicks age
Did you really just try to cherry pick to prove your point?
http://espn.go.com/nba/team/stats/_/name/mia/miami-heat
http://espn.go.com/nba/team/stats/_/name/okc/oklahoma-city-thunder
MorisUkunRasik
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Wade Bosh Haslem and Miller have seen dips in their FG attempts, FT attempts, points, rebounds and assists since playing with james. Miller has seen less minutes but gets the same amount of 3 pt attempts.
Chalmers seems to be the only guy whose numbers aren't terribly affected by Bron gobbling up everyone's stats, he got his aspirations of being a PG dashed but he seems more suited for a spot up shooter role anyway.
Meanwhile Bron's stats take a slight dip that you'd expect from playing a few less minutes a game.
Bron's style of play helps a very certain types of player, the spot up shooter. When he bails during the playoffs, he throws off the entire team chemistry that he forces during the regular season.
If he would stay the same Bron throughout they'd chip easy.
Chalmers seems to be the only guy whose numbers aren't terribly affected by Bron gobbling up everyone's stats, he got his aspirations of being a PG dashed but he seems more suited for a spot up shooter role anyway.
Meanwhile Bron's stats take a slight dip that you'd expect from playing a few less minutes a game.
Bron's style of play helps a very certain types of player, the spot up shooter. When he bails during the playoffs, he throws off the entire team chemistry that he forces during the regular season.
If he would stay the same Bron throughout they'd chip easy.
Oh yes, let me talk about Royal Ivey and Derek Fisher. My god, you nailed it!
MorisUkunRasik
Member
Royal Ivey sounds like cheap liqour, or a name Jay-Z would give his child, or a stripper.
Future PhaZe
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this thread is amazing right now
Where is Jay Bilas (IWMTB) with who the Wiz should pick in the draft?
Eh I think Wade is more to blame. He took jumpshots out of his game and decided to just slash, and the result has been a ton of extra milage on Bron while Wade misses a bunch of games. Wade should have adjusted by working on his perimeter game which would help him be healthier and the offense flow better.
Where is Jay Bilas (IWMTB) with who the Wiz should pick in the draft?
Eh I think Wade is more to blame. He took jumpshots out of his game and decided to just slash, and the result has been a ton of extra milage on Bron while Wade misses a bunch of games. Wade should have adjusted by working on his perimeter game which would help him be healthier and the offense flow better.
You might want to note that JJ Hickson's FG% dropped .100 percentage points. Its quite easy to average about 5 more points when your shots double.
Did you really just go to like the last guy off the bench? LOL You are still the same ole Reilo, good shit.
Who else do you want to name? Nick Collison? LOL. Thabo Sefalosha? LOL. Cole Aldrich? My god. Who are these star-studded-studs that back up Durant/Westbrook/Harden? Name them.
Regular season don't mean shit. I don't want to become the 90s Knicks/LeBron Cavs/Dwight Magic. I'd honestly rather get to 1-2 NBA finals and lose, then rebuild, than continue to be mediocrely good like the Hawks/Rox/Suns.
So he got better after 2 years, cool story.
You do realize that you are comparing them to the likes of Joel Anthony, Turiaf, and Cole? Right?
I compared a bunch of mediocre role players to more mediocre role players?
Somebody call the cops, because I committed a crime.
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