Justin Timberlake
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lol is this how you admit you were dead wrong?
Lebron makes his teammates worse at the benefit of his own stats. Hes like the anti-Duncan.
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lol is this how you admit you were dead wrong?
Lebron makes his teammates worse at the benefit of his own stats. Hes like the anti-Duncan.
Zomg, cute new username <3
MorisUkunRasik
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I think Bron's production being cut nearly in half in the finals was why they didnt chip.
Bron's game is Magic Johnson with much worse court vision and 100% less balls and no post presence.
His awkward amalgamation of skills make it hard to work around him. It turns everyone into spot up shooters, and they already have Miller chalmers and James jones.
He needs to work off the ball and continue to work on his post game. He's a rare talent like Big O, but also like Big O teammates never seem to compliment him very well.
How? How did Hixon get any better while he was on the cavs post-lbj?
Miamis role players are a full notch below OKCs.
It's amazing. What's the story, TCB?
Justin Timberlake
Member
By every measurable stat in existence?
So wait, let me get this straight. You think a player increasing his points by 5, on 5 more shots is them getting better? Why the fuck am I even having this conversation?
thats just... wow
Red Blaster
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Can't wait for Rose to take his talents to South Beach in...2017.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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JJ Hickson is like the worst player in the NBA. I don't think there's anyone who could make him salvageable.
I don't really care about this discussion but:
Hickson's TS% with LeBron: 58%
Hickton TS% in Cleveland without LeBron: 50%
The only thing that "improved" was that he had more touches and more minutes to be horrible in.
I don't really care about this discussion but:
Hickson's TS% with LeBron: 58%
Hickton TS% in Cleveland without LeBron: 50%
The only thing that "improved" was that he had more touches and more minutes to be horrible in.
Justin Timberlake
Member
2010 (w/Lebron): 1.328 pts/FGA
2011 (Lebron leaves): 1.179 pts/FGA
2012 (POR, w/all-star Lamarcus Aldridge): 1.321 pts/FGA
Ooooh, what a massive dropoff.
...meanwhile, hes grabbing 4 more rebs, getting twice as many assists, getting to the line twice as much, and scoring 6 more pts a game..
dat pts/FGA doe
Ohio is a battleground state though!! Seriously, I have never heard of Cleveland being a snob city producing assholes. This isn't Boston, or any other east coast city.
Only "snob town" I can think of in Ohio is Columbus. Posers, Columbus people are pricks. No class trying to bring the "Weird Portland Vibe."
ItWasMeantToBe19
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You guys can't be serious about Hickson. He's the worst defender in the NBA. Outside of one season with LeBron and this contract run, he's never been able to score efficiently. He was traded for Omri Cassipi who is not an NBA player at all. It's great to troll LeBron and everything, but Hickson is a worthless player who doesn't deserve any praise.
He's good around the glass and grabbing boards when he has a C/PF to run screens and sets off of.
Hollinger is that you? L O L.
You also seem to forget that when we lost LBJ we lost Big Z and Shaq. Of course everybody is gonna increase the rebounding and assisting.
Hint: 5.3 more points on 5.3 more shots is not getting better.
JL3 FINALS MVP
That's just like wow. And if he knows that's happening, derrick don't let it happen bruh. Say something, ask people, don't allow them to do that, maybe? The organization can't force you to tape your ankles can they?
Also lol at Hickson haters. He literally just came in and started dropping numbers. He was the reason they beat the wolves earlier this season. But hey, whateves we'll just resign him for a cheap price.
Justin Timberlake
Member
Holy shit its like FG% is the only stat in basketball
The others don't exist at all no way
Lets all ignore them because they'd make Lebron look bad
IWMTB, I'm not saying Hickson isn't bad, but that he was worse with Lebron there. Dude scored 4 and 8 ppg the seasons he played with Bron, and TripU is trying to tell me that Lebron made him better. Thats some shit.
The others don't exist at all no way
Lets all ignore them because they'd make Lebron look bad
IWMTB, I'm not saying Hickson isn't bad, but that he was worse with Lebron there. Dude scored 4 and 8 ppg the seasons he played with Bron, and TripU is trying to tell me that Lebron made him better. Thats some shit.
Why you gotta go in raw for, gaby. damn.
And you are acting like PPG is the only stat. You must also wonder why Rose gets laughed at for going like 25pts on 25 shots too huh?
Im saying that Bron made him better because I actually watched bron make him better. That summer after he trained with lebron his points "magically" doubled.
He's been consistently terrible.
He was misued as a big body by Mike Brown when they needed size on the court, but he was still fucking terrible regardless.
Black Mamba
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Justin Timberlake
Member
Alright since everyone seems to be bent up talking about Hickson, how bout we talk about whats happened to Bosh since he went to Miami?
Bosh for 3333333 is obviously the proper way to use him, and his talents aren't being wasted or mismanaged at all amirite?
2nd year player marginally improves his statistical output with increased minutes. News at 11.
Give that man Most Improved. And in his teary acceptance speech he'll hand it to Breezy for all that intensive summer training.
Bosh for 3333333 is obviously the proper way to use him, and his talents aren't being wasted or mismanaged at all amirite?
2nd year player marginally improves his statistical output with increased minutes. News at 11.
Give that man Most Improved. And in his teary acceptance speech he'll hand it to Breezy for all that intensive summer training.
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Like you told me the other day, once people got back in shape the playing field became alot more even. You happen to have numbers since all-star break?
Thats Lebrons fault?
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
What a pushover
But Bosh plays better without Wade than with him.
Spo misuses Bosh when all the Big 3 are in. We all know that.
Lets just forget about Bosh looking like a #1 option again when it was just him and LBJ.
Black Mamba
Member
No, not sure how to do that for an entire team. Not going to do each player individually.
I remember an article earlier in the year that said OKC was either 1 or 2 in production from their big 3. Only Lakers (this was pre Sessions) was ahead or close. Of course, things change over the season.
What I take from those 2 things is this.
Ibaka is the best role player on both teams. However, Miami employs only 1 bad role player (Cole) with everyone else average or better. OKC, on the other hand, employs Fish (beyond horrible) and a couple mediocre ones after Ibaka and Collison.
OKC's top 5 > Miami's top 5. The top 8, however, is about equal. Although, Fish may be so bad that he tips the scale. And yes, that matters, because he is playing a lot
edit: Let me rephrase that as OKC 4-5 > Miami's 4-5, but the 4-8 is about equal
Justin Timberlake
Member
Its Spo and Wade
Not Bron
Hes a saint
smh
I wonder how long the excuses for Bron will last. Probably until hes 30. Then the world comes crashing down.
you need a new schtick
cuevas. PhD.
Member
Why the name change, bish'd?
Oh my goodness I'm so pissed at 2k12 i swear to God they programmed cheap fouls in that game for OKC. My guys would be contesting and all of the sudden their would be a shooting foul. Also the only thing Durant ever misses is contested 3. Anything inside the 3pt line whether he's double or triple teamed is automatically in.
Literally screaming at my tv came back down from 12, drexler has like 30, and they get 4 bull crap steals. Screw that team
Literally screaming at my tv came back down from 12, drexler has like 30, and they get 4 bull crap steals. Screw that team
cuevas. PhD.
Member
Forget about those seasons where he missed only a handful of games.
Joke post?
Prototype-03
Member
How is this guy getting so many minutes? I mean leadership and all but leadership does not equal to quality player.
I don't want to get into this argument, but I gotta comment on this.
Do you happen to work in the marketing department of a failing multinational company? I can see that misrepresenting data to paint a rosy picture something that you do everyday.
A jump from 0.5 to 1.1 assist per game after playing 80 games should NEVER be brought up. He's essentially averaging 1 assist every 26 minutes. He also did great by doubling his TO too.
Shame on you, Justin.
Edit: You would have a bright future working for Sony.
Black Mamba
Member
young players also tend to improve as they get older.
Stop looking at Hickson.
Stop looking at Hickson.
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