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2012 NBA Offseason |OT2| Lakers Fans Despise Freedom.

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charsace

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I don't understand what you're trying to say, you seem angry.

I understand you're just kinda pissed on a bad day, but that dorsn't even make sense. Why are they clowns for just using cap space instead of giving up trade assets to get Lin?
I look at it now and yes, it was irrational. I accepted that Lin was gone on sunday because Dolan is mad at him for whatever reason. What makes me mad is that we are stuck with a middle age man that will be partying out his retirement run and throws half his salary away on Crispy Creme, Dunkin Donuts, McDonalds, Five Guys and whatever other fast food he can inhale. And there's a lot of fast food to be inhaled in NYC. :(

so good

keep it comin
You and the rest of Rocket fans should campaign for Morey to plan a dick eating tour throughout all of Asia. Since you care more about making that Asian money instead of winning.
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
I look at it now and yes, it was irrational. I accepted that Lin was gone on sunday because Dolan is mad at him for whatever reason. What makes me mad is that we are stuck with a middle age man that will be partying out his retirement run and throws half his salary away on Crispy Creme, Dunkin Donuts, McDonalds, Five Guys and whatever other fast food he can inhale. And there's a lot of fast food to be inhaled in NYC. :(


You and the rest of Rocket fans should campaign for Morey to plan a dick eating tour throughout all of Asia. Since you care more about making that Asian money instead of winning.

lol..
 

NervousXtian

Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Do they even have a coach yet?

Olshey is interviewing this week.

On Monday, Olshey interviewed Golden State assistant Michael Malone, Chicago assistant Adrian Griffin and former Orlando assistant Steve Clifford as well as Phoenix assistant Elston Turner. Atlanta assistant and former Oregon State standout Lester Conner also interviewed.

Up next for Olshey will be Indiana assistant Brian Shaw, Memphis assistant David Joerger, and former Orlando assistant Patrick Ewing. San Antonio assistant Mike Budenholzer and former Knicks assistant Phil Weber also are expected to get interviews.

from here.
 

RBH

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8 free agents who are still available:



1. Carl Landry
For teams in need of post scoring, Landry is a no-brainer. Though maybe a bit undersized -- he’s tall enough but lacks great reach or athleticism -- Landry is strong and has great balance, allowing him to spin and muscle his way to space in the paint. He’s only OK as a pick-and-pop big, but he converts open 15-footers well enough to keep teams honest. Defensively, Landry’s lack of explosiveness prevents him from doing much at the rim, even though he’s almost always in good position to contest. He isn’t all that quick, but he does a good job when he switches onto speedy players, cutting off angles to the rim and surrendering pull-up jump shots. If Landry rebounded the ball like, say, Paul Millsap, he’d be making $10mil next year. But his defensive rebounding figures, while not embarrassing, might be the reason he’s still available. In short, he is a flawed player, but a good one, especially for a team looking for a fourth scorer to come off the bench or start as necessary.

Strengths: Post scoring, offensive rebounding, mental focus, position defense.
Weaknesses: Athleticism hurts him around rim on both ends, only average in pick-and-pops.

2. Courtney Lee
Courtney Lee isn’t as skilled a player as fellow shooting guard O.J. Mayo, who trails him on this list, but he is easier to imagine on pretty much any team in the league. That’s because Lee has a simply defined game -- plays strong defense and makes open 3-pointers -- that can be of service to just about anyone. Lee can guard quick point guards like Chris Paul around pick-and-rolls and at 6-6 has the size to tangle with small forwards. Lee is, besides Shannon Brown, the best athlete left in the free agent class and a terror in transition or the occasional drive to the rim. When he has his feet set, Lee can really shoot. But if he has to dribble laterally to get off a shot, his technique -- especially his balance -- really suffers. Last season, Lee showed an increased comfort turning the corner on pick-and-rolls, something that could really pay dividends if Lee develops a consistent pull-up.

Strengths: Spot-up shooting, versatile on-ball defense, active cutter, excellent in transition.
Weaknesses: Shooting off the dribble, making creative passes.

3. O.J. Mayo
What is it that OJ Mayo does at an elite level? The answer may be “nothing,” which is why Mayo is still available despite his obvious skill. That being said, Mayo genuinely hustles, can be a pest on defense and knows where to be on offense -- he’s an excellent cutter. Mayo’s main issue is running the pick-and-roll as a ball handler. He often settles for jumpshots because he isn’t a good finisher at the rim. While this is can result in some hot quarters, it doesn’t produce great looks for his screeners and diminishes the overall effectiveness of the play. However Mayo is young, and can still improve his pick-and-roll play and shot selection with the right coaching. Even if Mayo never becomes more than a jump shooting combo guard, he can at least improve his catch-and-shoot percentages. Were he a lights-out 3-point specialist, he’d no doubt be ahead of Lee on this list.

Strengths: Plays hard, willing defender, solid shooter from all over the court.
Weaknesses: Not athletic enough to make up for size disadvantage, pick-and-roll ball handling, shot selection.

4. Kris Humphries
Humphries averaged a double-double and has hovered around the top of the league in rebounding rate for the last few seasons. So why isn’t he higher? Well, Humphries is not especially coordinated or tall, and this hurts him around the rim. He doesn’t extend well to create angles for his shot, and that’s why he was blocked on a full 20 percent of his shots within eight feet last year. That outstanding statistic, in concert with Humphries general lack of finesse anywhere on the court, is a big part of why he doesn’t have a long-term contract. Still, Humphries gives great effort, tries to be in the right position on defense (though he’s not much of a rim protector) and dramatically improved his free throw shooting last year. He’ll be snapped up soon.

Strengths: Defensive rebounding, hustle, runs floor well.
Weaknesses: No midrange shot, shaky ballhandler, too small to protect paint.


5. Kenyon Martin
Whatever Kenyon Martin did to his knees worked -- the explosiveness and lateral quickness was back last season. Martin isn’t the athletic whirlwind he was in the mid-2000’s, but he still has what it takes to defend a scorer like Rudy Gay in big moments, as he did in last year’s playoffs. Never much of a creative force on offense, his game on that end still consists of catching and finishing near the rim or shooting that flat-footed, flat-arching shot. So there isn’t a huge upside there. But Martin rebounds well, can finish inside, is a savvy defender and still has something left in the tank. A great pick-up at a cheap price for a team seeking interior defense (his block rate last season was a career best) and competent work from a backup forward/center.

Strengths: Defense at the rim, finishing in paint, rebounding, experienced help defender.
Weaknesses: Can’t shoot or dribble, on the older side so there’s a risk of him breaking down, surly teammate.

6. Delonte West
When he plays, West’s all-court game is certainly impressive. He can handle the ball and run an offense like a point guard. He hits spot-up 3-pointers at a great rate, defends with passion and can make just about any play out of a pick-and-roll. The problem is West hasn’t played in 80 percent of his team’s games since 2007. But at 28, he’s still in his athletic prime. West's talent is in the $5 million dollar range, but he can be had for far less because of his well documented struggles with mental disease and injury.

Strengths: Spot-up shooting, midrange game, ball handling, reads floor well, stout defender.
Weaknesses: Consistency, size, athleticism.

7. Randy Foye
Randy Foye is haunted by the high expectations that accompany a top five pick, but in the right situations he’s still useful. Foye has developed an excellent outside shot, though he needs to have his feet set -- no running around off screens a la Kyle Korver. Given an angle to the rim, Foye’s a good driver. However Foye doesn’t have a great handle (which undermines his "combo" status) and is not creative with the ball in his hands -- though he is not shy about attacking one-on-one. Defensively, his size hurts him more than any technical or effort-based issue. For the most part, he’s neither a liability nor a strength on that end. He’d be a nice fit for a team that can feed him spot up shooting opportunities on the second unit.

Strengths: Spot-up 3-point shot, barrels his way to rim, gives consistent effort.
Weaknesses: Lacks handle and presence to be true combo-guard, small for a shooting guard, average skill set when not getting to rim or spotting up.

8. Craig Smith
Last season was Smith’s first with a below-league-average PER, a testament to the enormously strong power foward’s ability to gobble up rebounds and find space near the basket. Smith knows how to move without the ball and is a good at using his body on drives. However he’s short, can't jump and he isn’t a threat to shoot. Defensively, Smith is a fine one-on-one post defender, but doesn't offer much resistance as a helper because he can’t protect the rim and, unlike, say Glen Davis, doesn't take charges.

Strengths: Incredibly strong, good touch around rim, nice feel for game below free throw line, reliable rebounder.
Weaknesses: Not a reliable shooter, doesn’t cover much ground defensively, short and not a leaper.

9. Jodie Meeks
Meeks has a great shooting stroke and not a whole lot else in his game -- he's both a pure shooter and purely a shooter. He earned major minutes for Philadelphia as the only player on the roster with a consistent 3-point shot, but would fit perfectly getting 15-20 minutes as a sharp-shooting specialist off the bench. Meeks can't do much off the dribble but has a solid shot-fake game that he uses to find his pull-up jumper. He's a great choice for teams looking for cheap shooting-- a role players who understands his role.

Strengths: Outside shot, good running off of screens, steady ball handler.
Weaknesses: Average athlete and a bit small, can't create own shot.

10. Hamed Haddadi
Haddadi is massive, and averaged 4.5 blocks per 36 minutes as a result. He also fouled at an incredible rate, which makes you wonder whether the bruising backup center is physical or just clumsy. It's probably a bit of both. Offensively, Haddadi has nice touch from 15 feet and a soft hand on tip-ins, but he doesn’t get many opportunities to show much else. Despite a lack of quickness or leaping ability, Haddadi isn’t exactly a stiff -- he knows how to establish deep post position and work to good rebounding spots. Still, he doesn’t play with great vigor, perhaps in part because he spent a lot of last season sopping up garbage minutes.

Strengths: Huge, good screener, soft hands around rim, decent touch.
Weaknesses: Lumbering and slow, does not explode to finish, fouls like crazy.
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/47864/free-agent-bargain-bin-whats-left
 

charsace

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And yes, I was talking about Jason Kidd only in my previous post and not Faton. You guys already know that Faton is a fat, team wrecking, twinky eating piece of shit. They are a worse combination than Bebop and Rocksteady from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle cartoons in the 80's. Which kind of makes sense when you consider that Grunwald looks like Krang's body vehicle and Dolan is the piece of shit Krang; has a ton of resources and thinks he's smart when in reality he's a fucking idiot.

Fucking bullshit I can't stand it. Fuck.
 

Baby Milo

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And yes, I was talking about Jason Kidd only in my previous post and not Faton. You guys already know that Faton is a fat, team wrecking, twinky eating piece of shit. They are a worse combination than Bebop and Rocksteady from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle cartoons in the 80's. Which kind of makes sense when you consider that Grunwald looks like Krang's body vehicle and Dolan is the piece of shit Krang; has a ton of resources and thinks he's smart when in reality he's a fucking idiot.

Fucking bullshit I can't stand it. Fuck.

LMAO
 

NervousXtian

Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Yeah, Babbitt just isn't good.. he's in the games to hit 3's.. and he misses way too many wide open 3's.
 

charsace

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I just had a thought. The Knicks could continue kicking their fans by signing Kidd's running buddy in Dallas, DeShawn Stevenson.
 

Zeus Molecules

illegal immigrants are stealing our air
And yes, I was talking about Jason Kidd only in my previous post and not Faton. You guys already know that Faton is a fat, team wrecking, twinky eating piece of shit. They are a worse combination than Bebop and Rocksteady from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle cartoons in the 80's. Which kind of makes sense when you consider that Grunwald looks like Krang's body vehicle and Dolan is the piece of shit Krang; has a ton of resources and thinks he's smart when in reality he's a fucking idiot.

Fucking bullshit I can't stand it. Fuck.

Wow... Well get the venom out now so the healing can Begin.

In other news the Knicks have 2 out of the 10 best players in summer league according to Sheridan. It means nothing but it's a change of subject from discussing Lin.

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2012/07/17/mitnick-10-summer-league-breakout-candidates/
 
If the Wolves can get Courtney Lee

Rubio/Rid/Barea
Lee/Roy/Schved
Budinger/DWill
Love/DWill/Cunningham
Pekovic/Stiemsma

SGs and SFs can play minutes at either position

AKA Wes Johnson doesn't have to play
 

Kogepan

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And yes, I was talking about Jason Kidd only in my previous post and not Faton. You guys already know that Faton is a fat, team wrecking, twinky eating piece of shit. They are a worse combination than Bebop and Rocksteady from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle cartoons in the 80's. Which kind of makes sense when you consider that Grunwald looks like Krang's body vehicle and Dolan is the piece of shit Krang; has a ton of resources and thinks he's smart when in reality he's a fucking idiot.

Fucking bullshit I can't stand it. Fuck.

As a Lin fan I'm really happy he's gonna get away from that cancer Carmelo.

And yeh, failton/DWI backcourt = lottery for the Knicks next year.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
I don't want to get rid of our rookies :( Okay the Magic can have Royce.
 
If the Wolves can get Courtney Lee

Rubio/Rid/Barea
Lee/Roy/Schved
Budinger/DWill
Love/DWill/Cunningham
Pekovic/Stiemsma

SGs and SFs can play minutes at either position

AKA Wes Johnson doesn't have to play

Weren't there talks a couple of weeks ago about the Wolves pursuing Lee? Whatever happened to that?
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
You and the rest of Rocket fans should campaign for Morey to plan a dick eating tour throughout all of Asia. Since you care more about making that Asian money instead of winning.

94 suck it.

Yes I live in the past.

I don't care if we get Howard, I have let that be known. I don't trust that he won't leave cause he's a tard.
 

Rodeo Clown

All aboard! The Love train!
Weren't there talks a couple of weeks ago about the Wolves pursuing Lee? Whatever happened to that?

The Batum thing happened. They're going to get on Lee once their cap is freed up again. But if that can't be worked out, they'll go after Ronnie Brewer. So hopefully Lee happens.
 

RBH

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LAS VEGAS -- When last we checked in with Josh Smith in mid-March, he was a young man conflicted. The dynamic forward who spent all eight of his seasons in Atlanta reportedly wanted a change, a trade that would remove him from a team with a payroll so bloated that Smith understandably questioned what it meant for his long-term future.

Changes came, of course, but not the kind Smith envisioned. A new general manager arrived in late June, when former Cleveland GM and San Antonio executive Danny Ferry replaced longtime Hawks GM Rick Sund. A revamped roster came soon after, as Ferry dealt shooting guard Joe Johnson -- and the four years and nearly $90 million remaining on his contract -- to Brooklyn in a money-saving trade that has shifted the Hawks into rebuilding mode after five consecutive postseason berths.

Suddenly, circumstances have changed. And coming off a season in which he averaged 18.8 points, 9.6 rebounds and 1.7 blocks, Smith doesn't seem so eager to get out of town anymore.

Similar to many other teams, the Hawks are creating financial flexibility with the hope that one of the league's elusive stars will come to Atlanta either via trade or in the next round of free agency. Orlando center Dwight Howard certainly tops that list, and the Hawks -- while seemingly an afterthought -- have been among the teams in talks with the Magic. They want to acquire the player who grew up in Atlanta and counts Smith as one of his closest friends.

Like Howard, Josh Smith has one year left on his contract (worth $13.2 million). But unlike Howard, Smith isn't set on leaving the team with which he spent his entire career.

"It's interesting," Smith said this week in an interview with SI.com. "I think we have a great GM in Danny Ferry, and he has a plan that he's putting together. It looks good. I really am just trying to get to know these guys, to build a relationship and see where the team is going to end up closer to veterans' camp. I'm just excited. We have a lot of elite shooters, and I can see us being a run-and-gun shooting team."

Asked if he still wants to be traded, Smith promptly responded, "No."


That mentality was in full effect in Las Vegas, where Smith visited with new assistant general manager Wes Wilcox near the top of the stands at Cox Pavilion. The two had never met before they sat down together on Sunday. They spoke about everything from the franchise's future to Smith's young daughter, Genesis, and son, Josh, during a friendly chat that lasted longer than half an hour.

Wilcox touched on the Hawks' influx of shooters, rookie John Jenkins (the 23rd pick in last month's draft, from Vanderbilt), four-year pro Anthony Morrow (obtained in the Johnson deal) and three-point specialist Kyle Korver, the 31-year-old who arrived Monday in a trade with the Bulls. Jenkins was viewed as one of the best pure shooters in the draft and has impressed coaches thus far on the summer league circuit. He will play on a rookie-scale deal that could arguably be labeled the anti-Joe Johnson contract (it will pay him about $1 million next season). Korver, meanwhile, has just one year and an affordable $5 million remaining on his deal.

The run-and-gun portion of the program will be handled by new point guard Devin Harris, whose $8.5 million expiring contract was acquired from Utah in exchange for forward Marvin Williams, and newly signed guard Lou Williams, who averaged 14.9 points for Philadelphia last season. All of the additions will give the Hawks' offense a new look after years of relying on Johnson as the first option. In the trade with Brooklyn for the six-time All-Star, Atlanta received a lottery-protected first-round pick in 2013, the Nets' second-round pick in 2017 and a package of players with expiring contracts: Morrow, Jordan Farmar, Jordan Williams, Johan Petro and DeShawn Stevenson. Only Williams, Jenkins and two-time All-Star center Al Horford (four years, $36 million remaining) are on the books for the 2013-14 season and beyond.

"I played a lot of years with Joe," said Smith, who spent seven of his eight seasons with Johnson. "I built a relationship with him, like a brother relationship. And to see somebody depart that you've been playing with for so long, it's tough. But at the end of the day, it's still a business and I wish him the best. I definitely wish him the best."

Smith isn't expecting Howard to join him anytime soon, but he certainly welcomes the possibility. The two friends still keep in close contact, whether it's having dinner together or Smith checking in on Howard to see how he's handling the never-ending trade rumors.

"You never know" about getting Howard, Smith said. "I mean, everybody has a possibility of getting him. To have a guy of that caliber would definitely be awesome. But he has so much going on right now that I don't want to clutter his head with any more of it. I know that he's going through a lot right now with that decision, and it's a long process for him. I don't really bother him about it. I just call him sometimes to check up on him and see what he's doing."

According to Smith, the Hawks haven't told him of any specific plans.

"I haven't heard anything concrete yet," he said. "I'm just getting to know these people, and I think later on the summer or even during the season we'll come together and discuss the plans on going forward with the team."

After a complete roster overhaul, those plans are just getting started. But for now, they appear to include Smith staying put.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...-hawks-dwight-howard/index.html#ixzz20vl3mkl1
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Damn Lamb can score... don't you do it Morey >_<
 

charsace

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I've been saying Lamb was top 3 player in this draft for a while. His Uconn team was shitty with a shitty back court mate in Napier who was trying real hard to play himself into the first round and only hurt himself in the end.
 
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