Syphon Filter
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trolol since you know lebron is a beast.
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2012 NBA Offseason |OT2| Lakers Fans Despise Freedom.
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It's head-to-head comparison. When they're both on the court, Westbrook gets to the paint with ease and actually averages more assists than his average, while shooting right around his regular average.
That's below his average. When they're on the floor together, Nash averaged fewer points and assists than normal. He's less productive. Russ does a better job on Nash than Nash does on Russ.
OKC's being discounted for no good reason. Nash was the biggest difference-maker for the Lakers, as Dwight is only marginally better offensively than Bynum, whereas Nash is leagues better than Blake. Yet, no one was writing OKC off after the Nash signing. Only now that Dwight is on board, suddenly it's curtains for OKC. That's just kind of crazy. And while Nash is the biggest difference-maker, he didn't do that well against Westbrook last season. I think the matchups are being overlooked. PEACE.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Rookies lose games, especially rookies like Motiejunas and White who don't defend or score efficiently. Lin has been a nonfactor generally.
What's funny is Darkside laughed at me for saying just this thing prior to anyone else. You don't help bring the best center to a decent team that beat you in the playoffs last year. Even for an upgrade. Salary dump is good, AI is a nice addition, but it's still a bad move for Denver in the grand scheme of things imo.
they might be the favorites but that's just people being in the moment.
no one is stopping LeBron. not Kobe, not MWP, not Dwight. only chance the Miami Cavs lose is if Kobe finds the fountain of youth over in London.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
The Nuggets shed 40 million dollars in guaranteed money AND made their team much better in the process. They won HUGE with this deal. They can't worry about what the Lakers are doing.
Say this deal doesn't happen as proposed. The Nuggets are worse off and Dwight still probably ends up on the Lakers. How is that good for Denver?
Miami is still the favorite according to the oddsmakers. Lakers leapfrogged OKC and SA though
Yep like Mitch has said he doesn't worry about other teams when making trades just if it makes his team better. That should be the main concern when doing any trade.
StickSoldier
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Heat vs Lakers
Kobe got Wade
MWP got LBJ
Pau got Bosh
Who contains Nash and Dwight? Chalmers and Anthony?
Kobe got Wade
MWP got LBJ
Pau got Bosh
Who contains Nash and Dwight? Chalmers and Anthony?
You mean every game has been bad for him this year on Team USA. Even the games where he doesn't shit the bed on offense, he's been terrible on defense. You could make a feature-length highlight reel of nothing but foreign players blowing by Kobe this year. Like I said, it depends on what Kobe shows up, but it's actually delusional to ignore the present and expect it will get better with more time on the clock. PEACE.
MorisUkunRasik
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Dwight will be huge against Bron/Wade since their jumpshots are still streaky as fuck and they won't get as many gimmes at the rim. Come on son.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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But the Nuggets don't have the superstar talent to contend. They weren't going to ever beat OKC, they don't have someone like Anthony Davis, they aren't in LA, and they don't have the Spurs' scouts so they weren't going to contend regardless.
StickSoldier
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Russia vs USA for gold? Spain been lookin pretty bad so far
Don't mistake trying to avoid fouls for inability to play defense. He's lost a step (or three lol) but Kobe's still a force.
I just have to say that the Samsung Galaxy S III ad with Melo is so unintentionally funny. Everyone is running passing the virtual torch, and when it gets handed off to Melo, he looks at it, laughs, and hands it to some guy on a bike. I chuckle everytime I see it.
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So Dwight to the Lakers, huh?
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So Dwight to the Lakers, huh?
madmaxx350
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Nah Kobe's turrible on D , ask Ty Lawson in Game 7 last season.
And what's with Spain rushing on Offense, they deserve to lose.
before this season i would have agreed with you.
after this postseason where Bron pretty much carried his team to a championship (Bosh missed half of it and Wade wasn't even close to himself) and how he's saved the US from it's stupidity over in London, I'm not going to doubt him.
he refuses to lose and I don't see anyone or any team stopping him.
theignoramus
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Im glad the refs arent falling for Rudy's embellishments. cant stand that motherfucker and his diving.
Fun question. How many minutes did Joel get in the Finals?
2 minutes IIRC...in the Game5 massacre. That was the only non-Bosh center that played the entire series.
Kobe can't stay in front of a foreign guard, much less a healthy Wade. Metta has been a non-factor defending Lebron for ages. Who guards Ray? Who guards Bosh? Who guards Battier? Ask OKC how well you can defend that lineup with two bigs. Ibaka, for all his mobility, couldn't do anything about Battier shooting 3s. Bosh drew Perk out to the 3pt line as well, and when Perk didn't follow, made him pay. Unlike other teams, we can field 5 guys that can play both defense and offense.
We're not gonna throw a stiff into the rotation just to play into LA's hands. Why allow Dwight the option of camping in the lane? Rather, it will be LA that has to figure out how to defend out lineup of scorers, because we already used to put Bosh on Dwight in pressure situations. And if not him, we have Haslem who can still hit the midrange. Lebron can guard Pau as well, and since Metta is a bum, we're gonna be able to double Dwight more.
Here's a funny idea. It will actually be easier to guard Dwight on the Lakers than on the Magic, because you're not gonna get punished by 4 3pt shooters camping on the perimeter. Double-teams would routinely result in a hail of 3s, but now we'll be able to rotate better on defense. Miami still has the best team in the league, and a deep bench to boot. Anyone thinking LA are the favorites in the league hasn't been paying attention the last couple of years. PEACE.
I guess I don't see it that way. The money is nice and the addition is good. Assuming Dwight signs after this season with the Lakers, you still have a created a monster team that will beat pretty much any product you put out for years to come. If Dwight came through different means, that would be fine. But to work with the Lakers to bring him in is stupid to me. You are defeating yourself for years to come, even if you improve your team.
Kobe is too slow to guard small PGs these days. You have to judge him against other SGs
MorisUkunRasik
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Bron's playoff run was nice, but being able to get the rim at will made the rest of his game shine, without a blow by option he won't be able to be as great.
madmaxx350
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if Russia wins they are going to zone us to death.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
I must be the only one who likes the Nuggets chances next year. They were already a good team last year (really they should have beat the Lakers) and managed to get a huge addition for their team while getting rid of the weakest player in their starting 5. Their young guys are a year older and Iggy will do some crazy shit on a team coached by Karl.
More than capable of upsetting some team in the first round.
More than capable of upsetting some team in the first round.
ClovingWestbrook
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So when should we receive notice that the league approved the trade?
Everyone's been zoning us to death. My only worry is Mozgov.
How in the hell do the Lakers get away with this shit? Not accusing them of anything but I would absolutely love to hear how these "negotiations" actually go.
Kobe V Wade is a wash.
MWP hasn't "had" LBJ since he was put on purple and gold
Pau can't check Bosh, especially so on the perimeter
Nash in a Princeton won't me that big of a threat except for his shooting and even then the Heat are probably the best perimeter defense in the league
Dwight is still a huge wildcard, back surgery isn't anything to just shrug off...
Kobe V Wade is a wash.
MWP hasn't "had" LBJ since he was put on purple and gold
Pau can't check Bosh, especially so on the perimeter
Nash in a Princeton won't me that big of a threat except for his shooting and even then the Heat are probably the best perimeter defense in the league
Dwight is still a huge wildcard, back surgery isn't anything to just shrug off...
Stern voids the trade.
Magic release Dwight
Dwight signs with the Clippers
Adam riots in the streets
Do they beat the Lakers or the Thunder with this team? I highly doubt it. If they meet either one of these teams, they're likely done. Whereas with just the Thunder being the frontrunner West team prior to this trade, you could hope for an upset and play a weaker team to reach the finals. Now you are likely to meet either the Thunder or the Lakers to make it there.
Denver is still a good team, and improved with Iggy, but I don't think it's enough to get it done. I would love to be wrong of course, but watching the Nuggets forever tells me the likelihood of me being wrong is fairly slim.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
I would guess Lawson/Iggy/Gallo/Faried/McGee would be their starting 5.
In 6 months they went from Lawson/Afflalo/Gallo/Nene/Mozgov to that new lineup and managed to save a ton of money in the process.
Nuggets still have their 13 million dollar TPE too right? Wonder what they'll do with that.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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People talked for years about the 76ers having a wing log-jam, but now their wing rotation is Turner-Wright-Young, isn't that the worst wing rotation in the NBA?
They went from being a likely lottery team to a likely playoff team.
They went from being a likely lottery team to a likely playoff team.
They're pretty loaded.
McGee/Mozgov
Gallo/Faried
Iggy/Chandler
?? not sure who they have at the 2
Lawson/Miller
that looks pretty damn good on paper.
benjipwns
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Thankfully he never attempts jokes in his columns.
Sure but anywhere near the national outrage and anger directed towards Lebron?
Though this does make them the favorites IMO to win the title.
MorisUkunRasik
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circumstances regarding heat coming together and this team are day and night, no parade here yet and no espn special either.
Bron got as much hate as he provoked.
Syphon Filter
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what is so bad about a parade or espn. He was happy to be with the team.
LeBron had his own 1-hour ESPN special shitting on the city he grew up in and the team he played for his first 7 years in the league.
"Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4..."
"Iz gon b easy"
etc.
Dwight's just an oversensitive, self-entitled bitch. LeBron showed us his clown shoes on national television on multiple occasions during that summer 2010 debacle.
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