Adam Blade
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Tonight, I root for Utar.
I feel dirty.
I feel dirty.
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2013 April NBA |OT| Pipe Dreams
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If there is any chance, and i mean ANY, you guys don't face okc or spurs, wouldn't you take it? Then why pick them utaz? Huh? Take one for the team man.
Like CP3 is leaving LA. He's only gonna use other teams for leverage.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
What kind of leverage would CP3 need? Every team with max money available is going to offer it to him.
This sounds an awful like "I can't make decisions for myself unless Hollinger tells me I'm right". Also, it's statistics, there are always numbers to support almost any position. It's called cherry picking stats to support a position and ignoring others that go against it.
On a related note lol at some stat that predicts a champion 50% of the time and only about a third of the time since the turn of the century. Considering that whole thing is taken at the end of the regular season. You can, almost without fail figure out the two most likely teams to win a chip with just the eye test almost all the time and flip a coin and get the same 35-50% range.
This year OKC/Miami
12 - Miami/OKC
11- Spurs/Miami (this would be wrong, no one saw Dallas coming, not even SRS)
10 - LA/CLE
09- LA/CLE
08 - BOS/LA
Etc. my thoughts At the end of the regular season have been right for every year except 2011 and 2006 going back a while.
HerbertFish
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ItWasMeantToBe19
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Vag, if a scientist had a very good theory that made sense and seemed to work, but some of the numbers from the tests suggested that the theory could be false, should they have total confidence in their theory still?
good one.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
Vag would.
I totally support OKC beating Miami in the finals if it causes infighting and Bron to opt out and come to LA.
Future PhaZe
Member
infighting?
that ship has sailed
That team would have blown the fuck up if they failed in the finals last year and this year as well, but they chipped so its whatever now.
that ship has sailed
That team would have blown the fuck up if they failed in the finals last year and this year as well, but they chipped so its whatever now.
ClovingWestbrook
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Black Mamba
Member
This argument can be used against both Vag and SRS.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
The situations are very different. They had room to improve when Dallas whooped their asses, but if they get beat by a still improving OKC team while at what could very well be the peak for that Miami roster....
Bron leaving Miami is a dumb idea, but I think it becomes less dumb if they lose this year, Wade gets older and they lose next year. It's essentially a fantasy tho.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Yes it can. I'm not buying into the Thunder completely because of their SRS. It's just at such a high level that it makes wonder about how good they are.
Why would bron go to LA?
He's more likely to go to OKC or chicago or some other stacked team.
You can use it as an excuse for not wanting to play them in the playoffs when the Jazz either fail on their own, or the league makes them fail to get in.
Diprosalic
Banned
i want utah to win so clips get HCA but denying the lakers would be a nice bonus.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
He probably wouldn't.
Well, he IS selling a book, so I don't know about 'lying' but as you know after a lot of years stories can be exaggerated or bent out of shape a little.
I mean, if Grover is telling the truth, and if MJ indeed was the only one who got sick from eating it---don't you think a giant ruckus would have been raised about it earlier? I would think the Bulls organization would do everything they could do burn that pizza business down if that's what they suspected. Kobe's food poisoning news didn't come out that much later IIRC.
This post makes no sense.
wait.. do you think the Lakers have a better chance of beating OKC or SA than the the Jazz do?
lol
When assembling this photoshop, doesn't it feel like they did T-Mac's face like TIME magazine did OJ?
looks weird
He just looks like a droopy eyed OJ
Black Mamba
Member
Same with the '09 Cavs. Instead, we should probably wonder why their SRS is so high and why it overrated them.
For example, of the top 20 SRS teams, OKC has the toughest SOS. Is too much emphasis on SOS? Have they simply been destroying very bad teams? Have they been uncharacteristically healthy? etc.
I've always believed SRS didn't separate out "quality wins" as I'd call it (or MOV for quality teams).
For example, OKC is 11-11 versus the top 10 teams according to point differential.
Miami, on the other hand, is 14-6.
Spurs are 13-8
I wish I had PD numbers for those but I don't. I think that OKC pushes their PD up against shitty and below average teams, much like the '09 Cavs did (which had only 2 losses to bottom 10, like OKC's 3 and just 1 game better than Orl and worse than LAL at top 10).
I believe great health + playing harder than everyone else is the reason, the same reason for those '09 Cavs, helped along by a super tough SoS.
edit: The above numbers are almost a month old, damn it. 82games hasn't updated in forever, wtf.
They're allowed to shift what games they air around a bit.
Abbott said:
Strauss said:
JJ Hickson, according to Value Added, is better than:
Kyrie, Conley, Millsap, Josh Smith, Ibaka, Noah, Vucevic, George, Pekovic, Chandler, Garnett, Lawson, Faried
There you go. Advanced stat say JJ Hickson is a Top 25 player.
Yeah they did this for miamis streak too and got stuck with a miami v charlotte game that sucked.
How do they calculate the scoring title? Points over 82 games, or points over games played? I feel like melo sitting so much should have benefitted kd
Black Mamba
Member
points over games played, with a minimum minute threshold to qualify (don't know what it is)
That thing must really like rebounds and sub-par defense.
Its PER * Minutes lol. All you need to know.
Yes. Dwight howard alone is a bigger advantage than anything utah can give.
....... Utah's huge advantage and what got them this far is their crazy ass good front-court. Put the pipe down son.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
And i'm telling you dwight howard is the bigger advantage. I can't even believe we are arguing this...lol Utah are utter trash and shouldn't even be anywhere near the 8th seed. They are just one year removed from that embarrassing sweep. Crazy ass good..hahahaha
Wait, didn't the lakers get swept last year?
MorisUkunRasik
Member
Utah's front court is good, but dat backcourt + playoff GTYME. Might as well stay home and pipe themselves.
I hope blazers give him a max then. Might be better than you guys trying to draft really..
No. We almost won games 2/4 too. Kobe went into kome mode unfortunately.
This is not a matter of opinion, dimwit. It's about facts. Fact one, Utah and Los Angeles are virtually tied. Fact two, Dwight had Kobe. You can argue about what ifs, but when it comes to the very real outcome of the 2012 - 2013 season coming to a close, you are inclined to shut it.
Dwight howard being a bigger advantage than utah's mo and hayward isn't a matter of opinion rookie. Go sit in the corner and wait for that celtic pipe. It'll almost be as bad as going into a retirement home and getting mugged. Thank goodness our playoff dreams aren't resting on honey nut cheerios.
Syphon Filter
Member
Tonight we are all Jazz and Rocket fans.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
HOU/OKC & LA/SA is infinitely more entertaining than HOU/SA & OKC/UTAH.
Everyone should be rooting for a Laker win tonight, for basketball reasons.
Everyone should be rooting for a Laker win tonight, for basketball reasons.
Oh. Ok.
I still don't get your point.
The jazz front court is why they're in this at all. The Lakers back court are why they're in this at all.
No, we're not.
Syphon Filter
Member
Boozer's former team,come on!
How many games did oden play?
My point is that we have a slightly better chance over utah when it comes to both teams because of dwight. His the only guy on both teams that can alter a series. We are obviously going to get swept but atleast theres a chance.
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