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2013 Feb NBA Season lOT| Controlling it like a man, bruh
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LegendofJoe
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This draft is depressing. If I thought we could get a decent return on trading our pick I'd be all for it. Before I learned that Noel had injured the same knee in high school I was in favor of drafting him. Now there is no one I really like for the Cats at the spot we will likely be picking.
I like guys who have a fuck you, dickish persona on the court so I want to like Shabazz. I just don't think he'd fit in well at all in Charlotte. We need a 2 that can shoot and create for others primarily. Bazz is decent at the former, but horrible at the later. I'm really starting to think he's who we'll end up drafting though if we don't find a way to get value from a trade or decide to take a risk playing Smart next to Kemba.
ratcliffja
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That seems to be the case for all of the top young PGs. Rubio, Curry, Rondo, Rose, Wall, and Irving have all missed extended time due to injury over the last year or so. For all the bad stuff that gets said about Westbrook, at least he's remained healthy and has yet to miss a game in his NBA career.
Future PhaZe
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Kemba has to become a better playmaker, you can't look for that from your two guard. Playmaking 2's are probably more rare than bigs.
I still want Shabazz. You can't judge athleticism through the eye test sometimes--look at Harrison Barnes.
My only concern is his shooting. Is it sustainable? If not he becomes the Derrick Williams of the 2/3 position. The scare is due to his FT shooting...which is a better indicator of shooting. 73% or something like that for Bazz..scary.
I was going to comment that Westbrook also carries the most muscle on his frame as a possible advantage. And it likely is.
But he isn't much bigger than Rose and Irving. So it's can be argued that its a moot point.
But hamstring strength and muscular balance in the legs is crucial to supporting your knees against injury. So when I see guys like Rubio and Rondo have knee injuries I am not that surprised.
Red Blaster
Member
Oladipo could be a solid Michael Finley clone
his shooting numbers right now are unsustainable (TS% of 71!!) but even after he cools down a bit he should still be good
his shooting numbers right now are unsustainable (TS% of 71!!) but even after he cools down a bit he should still be good
A young Finley would be pretty damn good in this no hand check era.
No. I don't know what he is honestly. His shooting is too hot right now to sustain. I think he'll probably be in the nba like 10 years though wherever he goes though. Plays D like a fiend and just plays hard overall. Needs to work on his offense though.
I actually don't think this draft class is that bad. Shabazz, Noel, Smart, Len, Anthony Bennet, their are some guys with things to work on but huge upside. Also guys like Porter or Oladip look to just out work people.
There's no clear #1 like a kyrie or davis though i agree. There's like 5 guys you could possibly take #1 overall.
Red Blaster
Member
I think Shabazz could be a fatter Kevin Martin in the NBA
also Kyrie wasn't a clear cut #1 in 2011, he was getting Mike Conley comparisons back then
also Kyrie wasn't a clear cut #1 in 2011, he was getting Mike Conley comparisons back then
LegendofJoe
Member
Kemba looks to score more than he otherwise would, but he's our only consistent scorer in the starting lineup so I'm not worried about his playmaking, at least yet. If we had another go to scorer he would definitely have to work on that part of his game.
As for Shabazz I think his shooting is sustainable. He picks his spots really well and he has good form. I think he'll actually get quite a bit better at shooting over the next few years. He needs to start contributing in areas other than scoring though and I'm not sure he's capable of that.
Colonel Nasty
Member
D Mo to start. Pack it up league.
Talent wise 76ers should win. But we are as dumb as bricks so probably will lose.
Future PhaZe
Member
If he's a Kevin Martin that can stay healthy and play average defensively then he's basically an all-star.
jobber
Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
Harkless Revenge!
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I don't think Shabazz's defense will approach average though.
Way worse at drawing fouls as well even though he flops as hard as Martin.
Dominican Power
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NBA comparisons are fucking misleading.
Dominican Power
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He didn't sign outright with The Thunder because they all already had 3 point guards on the roster.
Future PhaZe
Member
Emeka Okafor has a DRTG of 98 and Arizas is 97 (might be the best wing defender in the NBA).
So basically once those guys are going we're going to be terribad, because defense is all we have going for us right now.
edit: Victor Oladipos advanced stats are basically #1 overall pick worthy
So basically once those guys are going we're going to be terribad, because defense is all we have going for us right now.
edit: Victor Oladipos advanced stats are basically #1 overall pick worthy
Emeka Okafor has a DRTG of 98 and Arizas is 97 (might be the best wing defender in the NBA).
So basically once those guys are going we're going to be terribad, because defense is all we have going for us right now.
edit: Victor Oladipos advanced stats are basically #1 overall pick worthy
lol
Rodeo Clown
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Trevor Ariza is garbage.
Knux-Future
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Shabazz still has the Howland fuckball theory working for him.
Jrue looked like ass too, he turned out ok.
Still I wonder if he's more of a Turner level talent in that the fact that he is just more mature physically than most of his peers at this point.
I'd take him tho.
because fuck it
Jrue looked like ass too, he turned out ok.
Still I wonder if he's more of a Turner level talent in that the fact that he is just more mature physically than most of his peers at this point.
I'd take him tho.
because fuck it
Future PhaZe
Member
I fucked up, its a 99
But he's a very good wing defender, not sure that's even debatable.
Turners advanced stats from his jr year in college are actually better than shabazz, and they still aren't very good
I'm actually really surprised that Shabazz's ORTG is that bad given his shooting this year
I always thought Jrue was going to be a player in the NBA. Even in Howland's system you I could see him being a lock down defender and playmaker and still think he can be a pg on a championship team eventually.
To me Shabazz looks like a catch and shoot player, straight line driver in the mold of Deng and Harrison Barnes. The difference is those guys are bigger, better athletes that can defend their position(the 3). I don't think Shabazz can defend NBA 2's; especially when 2's in the NBA are trending back to 6'3, 6'4 quick guards.
So go into detail of why you didn't want the Knicks to draft him...
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Shabazz probably has the physical ability to defend (he's alright though not special athletically), but he's pretty dumb and only cares about PPG and nothing else so I doubt he'll become a good defender in the NBA.
Future PhaZe
Member
Can Oladipo play SF in the NBA?
Starting to like him for the Wiz
Starting to like him for the Wiz
Martin can get by his man. That's why he can score with 20 points efficiently. Shabazz has Evan Turner syndrome. At best, he's the second coming of Bad Porn.
minutes a game for a spot up shooter wasn't really sustainable though.
Right as I picked up Delfino, too. I think my fantasy team is seriously cursed. I guess 40
minutes a game for a spot up shooter wasn't really sustainable though.
Red Blaster
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He's barely 6'5, he'll be a fulltime SG in the NBA
and the Wiz will either go with Porter, Shabazz, Bennett, Zeller or Noel if they don't mind waiting
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
He's not a first option player or a big which the knicks needed either of at the time. Jrue would have bust on the Knicks with Al Harrington and the other guys that were on the roster at the time.
And I think I'm done with IOS as my main tablet. Got a Nexus 7 and I like android way more.
Blackace
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With the weight of the team on his back it is putting extra strain on his body..
As someone who gave up soda and saw immediate health benefits, i get the why. Only the incredibly, and usually intentionally, dumb refuse to see the obvious link.
Not sure if i agree with the how.
Psychological Intellect
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They first thought Rondo's injury was a hyper extended knee.I really hope it's just a hyper extended knee.
Rondo has had a litany of relatively serious injuries. Back issues, that elbow bending. and now knee issues.
He loses his athleticism and he loses relevancy.
Celtics are a better team without him. They were missing a lot of open shots last night, but I've never seen them get into so many easy scoring positions as they were last night. The Jazz were lucky that the Celts kept bricking stuff down the stretch or it would have been a 15 point win in regulation.
Selfish assists, man.
Selfish assists, man.
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lakers. where former Suns are sent to die.
ratcliffja
Member
The Lakers should just get it over with and trade Kobe for Joe Johnson and Dwight for Amare.
Edit: Oh wait, too late.
Edit: Oh wait, too late.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8989580/is-rockets-gm-daryl-morey-plan-working-houston
Yessss the Rockets getting positive press for once. We're so used to (rightfully so):
But now we get:
Yeaaaaaaaaaa. We might still lose in the first round, but at least its fun to watch.
Yessss the Rockets getting positive press for once. We're so used to (rightfully so):
But now we get:
Yeaaaaaaaaaa. We might still lose in the first round, but at least its fun to watch.
Him and Kobe can have make up sex.
Lakers just need to get the comish on the phone.