2013 High-Res PC Screenshot Thread of Let the JPEG Die Already
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Cuban Legend
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looks colorful and vibrant albeit a bit contrast-y....
whats your performance hit like?
Brerlappin
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Crysis 2
Using maldo 2.0, cause i cant find a download for 3.0! Just 2 from the start of the game, its all i played, gauging performance. 50-60FPS on Ultra, not too shabby
Using maldo 2.0, cause i cant find a download for 3.0! Just 2 from the start of the game, its all i played, gauging performance. 50-60FPS on Ultra, not too shabby
iNvid02
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Yeah it does have some sweet details, apparently the thing shoots, takes off vertically and cures a few forms of cancer but I probably need to read the manual for it. Weird to have all these features in FSX.
Can probably turn on the HUD too somewhere ...
MrRoderick
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These look excellent. What sorta sweetfx'ing?
Cuban Legend
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that shot looks so sharp, you use sharpening in PS or is that some kinda AA?
Sax Russel
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Zyrusticae
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Went on another screenshot spree.
Note that these screenshots will be slightly blurry and slightly oversaturated due to SweetFX usage (SMAA ultra and some of the DPX shader) and 4x SGSSAA. As always, no accounting for taste.
Note that these screenshots will be slightly blurry and slightly oversaturated due to SweetFX usage (SMAA ultra and some of the DPX shader) and 4x SGSSAA. As always, no accounting for taste.
Zyrusticae
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Dictator93
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You forcing AO at all Zyrusticae? Hard to tell sadly. I do not think so.
Nobody admits to it but there is ridiculous sharpening in a lot of peoples screens, either via lumasharpen or some photo editing.
Are you using any addons to get it looking this good? I actually just bought FSX last month and it looks pretty bad maxed out. I might get REX or something if I can justify it.
iNvid02
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just downsampling as usual
and due to rockstars video memory setup for their games I couldn't set any aa with that resolution, probably why it looks so sharp
Zyrusticae
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I am, actually. Using the Warmonger bits (0x00000026). Sadly, I've had no luck finding other bits that both work and also have a more noticeable effect.
TERA in particular has this weird thing going whereby the AO is excessively diffuse compared to other games I use it in. Don't know why it's like that.
Quite a few actually, went on a purchase spree today.
- Razbam Harrier II
- REX for clouds and textures
- OpusFSX for weather control, for more realistic use of the clouds ( Instead of REX's own weather engine )
- Orbx FTX NA BLUE - USA Canada Pacific Northwest ( Although the terrain isn't too visible )
- EZDok ( Camera application )
Still setting everything up, learning my way around the various application, downloaded freeware airports and planes, tweaking the .cfg ... It's a mammoth task and requires a healthy wallet
The above mentioned ran me like $240-250.With that said, you can find freeware alternatives for just about everything - Not of the same quality but enough to get some decent looks.
Stallion Free
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Downsampling from 3-4k usually leads to a sharper image.
Spazznid
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I love all of your shots.
I'm not banned anymore! Also, how's Skydrive? I want something better for albums than Minus.
Random shots
Cuban Legend
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what's luma sharpening!?
One of the features of SweetFX.
jediyoshi
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At least in photoshop, there's a pretty wild difference depending on just the resampling method for resizing. If an image looks sharper just because of a resize, I'd call it shenanigans
Cuban Legend
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oh thats that smaa injector that uses filters , ugh...
smaa Injection is ok thought right? is it good to use it on top of regular AA, say 8X MSAA?
MMBosstones86
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First time. yell at me if i do something wrong.
Hi-Res Textures + Forced AA through Nvidia. Working on trying w/ ENB now
Hi-Res Textures + Forced AA through Nvidia. Working on trying w/ ENB now
Angelus Errare
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Zyru do you have your Sweetfx files dropped somewhere other than binaries folder? Cause I for the life of me can not get sweetfx to work.
Zyrusticae
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Thanks. Skydrive's treated me pretty well (I LOVE being able to upload files just by saving them in a Skydrive folder), but you have to remember to make your folders public for your files to be viewed. I tend to forget, as I'm sure the regulars around here have noticed. :/
Hmmm, nope, they're in the Tera\Client\Binaries folder and working just fine for me. How odd.
Don't use .bmps!
Use .pngs instead, they look exactly the same and are half the size (or less). Some character shots from the Nexus Traverse run I did today. Ridiculous how detailed these character models are, especially for an MMORPG. Btw, these are downsampled from 3600x2025.
(Note: No, I don't know how to turn off the health bars. :/ ...Though it's probably for the best, I need those things to heal!)
Angelus Errare
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Tera 4xSGSSAA (0x000010C5)
ERRRMAHGAWD wtf is going on?! Sweetfx doesn't work for shit neither does smaa for the matter. DX9 dll and .fx file right?
ERRRMAHGAWD wtf is going on?! Sweetfx doesn't work for shit neither does smaa for the matter. DX9 dll and .fx file right?
Angelus Errare
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MrRoderick
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I know its "High-res", but is this a screenshot thread or an anti-aliasing thread? Is it shenanigans because not everyone can use a nice bicubic resize filter (cause they can), or is it that you think its not true to the gameplay image (it very nearly is). Especially with the latter, A. These are still images, and thus immediately hugely different from the nature of gameplay aliasing/image anyway, and B. does this matter? If there is no real photo-manipulation, why have issue?
If you want the super-cleanest of high-res images, you need a very expensive machine, and what does that prove?
And to be clear, I do resize batches through photoshop, with bicubic smoother built into the action. But I'm not defending myself, I just don't like the notion. A slightly smoother image through formatting is like using a nice transfer material in photography, and personally I always thought of this as virtual photography.
Cuban Legend
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nope, wrong.
Antialiasing is part of IQ in PC games. Especially in this thread. So many people put work into sharper SSGAA profiles and SSAA with LODs and SMAA Injectors.
Any sort of filtering that isn't pure downsampling would be disingenuous to the medium and the very notion of 'PURE IQ' in PC games.
Now if this was the artshots thread, I'd say go ahead and bucibic sharper/smoother/whatever... but this isn't the artshots thread where downsampling is required/part of the process of creating an artshot.
Antialiasing is part of IQ in PC games. Especially in this thread. So many people put work into sharper SSGAA profiles and SSAA with LODs and SMAA Injectors.
Any sort of filtering that isn't pure downsampling would be disingenuous to the medium and the very notion of 'PURE IQ' in PC games.
Now if this was the artshots thread, I'd say go ahead and bucibic sharper/smoother/whatever... but this isn't the artshots thread where downsampling is required/part of the process of creating an artshot.
Angelus Errare
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Remember back when we use to post screenshots? Those were wonderful times, now we bitch about people using large PNGs when last year we bitched people DIDN'T use PNGs. Now we're complaining about the downscaling methods people use and question if some are using sharpening/lumasharpening? If someone wants to play Swords and Tits with lumasharpening cranked up, who cares? We bitch when people's shots don't align with our own definition of "great looking" and now we complain some shots look TOO good.
Last I checked the thread was called 2013 High-Res PC Screenshot Thread, not "2013 High-Res Screenshot thread of games you're running at playable framerates" if someone wants to shoot using near impossible settings for actually playing who cares? It hasn't been an issue in the past, why is it one now?
This is why we can't have nice things. If we spent less time bitching about insignificant things and more time doing what the thread title suggests things would be peachy. Keep adding random pointless rules and sooner or later people will just stop posting. So complain and people will respond, they'll stop resizing, and they'll post their original sized screenshots and people will probably bitch about that, because who wants to see 3Kx2K PNGs load?
Just my two cents. I'm personally going to keep posting my screenshots using the same downscaling methods I've been using and if people have a problem...deal with it. This is so ridiculous. There are less rules for being a Mormon than there are for posting screenshots. Can we just get back to posting screenshots and save the bitching for something actually worth bitching over?
Excuse the french.
Last I checked the thread was called 2013 High-Res PC Screenshot Thread, not "2013 High-Res Screenshot thread of games you're running at playable framerates" if someone wants to shoot using near impossible settings for actually playing who cares? It hasn't been an issue in the past, why is it one now?
This is why we can't have nice things. If we spent less time bitching about insignificant things and more time doing what the thread title suggests things would be peachy. Keep adding random pointless rules and sooner or later people will just stop posting. So complain and people will respond, they'll stop resizing, and they'll post their original sized screenshots and people will probably bitch about that, because who wants to see 3Kx2K PNGs load?
Just my two cents. I'm personally going to keep posting my screenshots using the same downscaling methods I've been using and if people have a problem...deal with it. This is so ridiculous. There are less rules for being a Mormon than there are for posting screenshots. Can we just get back to posting screenshots and save the bitching for something actually worth bitching over?
Excuse the french.
Cuban Legend
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My point isnt to make rules, it's the simplicity of posting a screenshot without any post processing after the fact that it was captured, where the image quality is misrepresentative of the product you see on your screen in real time. I never said downsampling was bad here, it's just not required like it would be in an artshots thread, read.
If you gotta post process your screenshot after capturing it/before posting it, then you're doing it wrong. Why anything else but pure unfiltered, unadultered PNGs or 100% JPGs are necessary is beyond me and is nearing bullshot territory, and many have bitched and moaned for years in here about people posting bullshots while 'forgoing the mentioning of the unplayable settings'.
If you gotta post process your screenshot after capturing it/before posting it, then you're doing it wrong. Why anything else but pure unfiltered, unadultered PNGs or 100% JPGs are necessary is beyond me and is nearing bullshot territory, and many have bitched and moaned for years in here about people posting bullshots while 'forgoing the mentioning of the unplayable settings'.
It's totally a taste thing if it's being done in SFX (personally, I think any kind of post-processing sharpening just looks like arse) but after/during resizing... no sir, I don't like it.
How do you feel about resizing for those of us who regularly downsample? I did one or two resizes with Photoshop but found the options seemed like they could be tinkering with it too much, so I just use Paint.NET and use the best quality one to go from 1440p to 1080p, which is how I play it.
Personally, I don't see a problem with that, but if there are other filters coming into play that, like you said, are *after* the screen was capped (ergo, SweetFX etc. sharpening is just fine) then yeah, I don't think it's kosher.
Cuban Legend
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I'm ok with this. Photoshop is fine for downsampling but all these other filtering methods can remove what is essentially what allows the PC gamer eye to see how well aliasing might look for us on our screen, so if it's been all 'filtered' away dishonestly then I'd say it's not fair for those trying to emulate IQ and especially those trying to emulate AA settings, which are a big part of all this thread.
Really? I mean, really really?
First we had to question the use of PNG and now we have to honestly question the use of resizing and using the option that's RECOMMENDED BY PHOTOSHOP for resizing because the other options adds blur, jaggies and whatnot. We also have to have shifty eyes towards effects not handled by the game natively, SweetFX and ENB as well I assume.
I'm going to be a real dick and say; why do you even visit this thread? Thread has been running fine for years and suddenly we need to go all hyper anal over stupid fucking shit. Post your own damn unaltered shots and let everyone else post what they like - Some of us enjoy looking at a clean IQ or enjoy looking at shots that aren't 2560x1600 or more which requires side-scrolling.
This years thread has really turned to shit.
Christ almighty, what's next.
First we had to question the use of PNG and now we have to honestly question the use of resizing and using the option that's RECOMMENDED BY PHOTOSHOP for resizing because the other options adds blur, jaggies and whatnot. We also have to have shifty eyes towards effects not handled by the game natively, SweetFX and ENB as well I assume.
I'm going to be a real dick and say; why do you even visit this thread? Thread has been running fine for years and suddenly we need to go all hyper anal over stupid fucking shit. Post your own damn unaltered shots and let everyone else post what they like - Some of us enjoy looking at a clean IQ or enjoy looking at shots that aren't 2560x1600 or more which requires side-scrolling.
This years thread has really turned to shit.
Christ almighty, what's next.
Nobody cares what you're 'ok with'. Feel free to make the '2013 Un-altered PC Screenshot thread of what you can play at 60fps with some AA no extra filtering methods', but that's not what this thread is about.
People will continue to post downsampled images, stuff they've thrown through Photoshop, and all sorts of (sometimes shit, I'll agree) downsized stuff.
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