It was nice of Barea to invite him to dinner right after that ejection.
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It was nice of Barea to invite him to dinner right after that ejection.
Acquired Favors last week as a throw in player in a trade. Best throw in I have ever gotten.
LegendofJoe
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If they were playing us again I'd say the odds are good, unfortunately we have the Nets though.
Dominican Power
Member
They play The Cavs tonight.
obijkenobi
Member
holy cow, the Celtics were going to draft Parker and literally changed their mind at the last minute.
http://www.48minutesofhell.com/tony-parker-spurs-bill-simmons-grantland
http://www.48minutesofhell.com/tony-parker-spurs-bill-simmons-grantland
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I've never liked Mo Williams, but I think he might seem like Tony Parker after experiencing Earl Watson recently.
Hopefully Burks is still the backup PG...
Hopefully Burks is still the backup PG...
Dominican Power
Member
Mo Gotti is back. The Lakers are done.
And all of those toxic players?
Felton, Wallace, Camby, and Crawford? Gone.
To say this current team has a toxic locker room is... odd.
Syphon Filter
Member
which playoffs? He did well in wcf 09 if that is what you mean?
Melo has a worse first-round track record than T-Mac.
Syphon Filter
Member
I mean in terms of doing his part. He never had much help.
Agree- why do we have to slap the choke label on it?
The Frankman
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You have to give Melo's People of Utah something to do on this board. However, he does have to take his share of the blame back then.
He had way more help than Tmac ever did lol
ItWasMeantToBe19
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When K-Mart, Camby, AI, Billups, Nene, and Andre Miller played with the Nuggets, they were very good players. Not sure how his help can be considered bad.
If he defended or if he could pass, his playoff record would probably mean less, but as a volume chucker whose former team hasn't suffered without him...
If he defended or if he could pass, his playoff record would probably mean less, but as a volume chucker whose former team hasn't suffered without him...
the rockets were...lacking in a few areas. And Yao and him never really had a chance to get it together. Poor Tmac, china is hopefully good to him.
Melo is my boy though, he put some POINTS in those 1st round loses. The team around him was always a work in progress.
friskykillface
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haha was gonna say "well they only had 1 pick" but they had 3 picks 0_o
dat Joe Johnson pick B^)
i'll be pissed if Miami escapes playing Indiana or New York til the ECF, i want them to play one of them in the semis
Celtics are just gonna get past the first round, if they are lucky. finals Jet will carry them
Did T-Mac and Yao ever play in the playoffs together?
EDIT: I see, once in 2006-07. Their third and fourth best players were Rafer Alston and Shane Battier :|
Rafer shot 33.8% over a 7-game span and played a whopping 44MPG. lol.
Twice I think, 05 and 07
MorisUkunRasik
Member
That 09/10 team was pretty good.
Billups/ Ty Lawson
JR/ Afflalo
Melo
KMart/ Birdman
Nene
Plus the year he bolted they could have moved pieces around and improved. Maybe signed Tyson.
Billups/ Ty Lawson
JR/ Afflalo
Melo
KMart/ Birdman
Nene
Plus the year he bolted they could have moved pieces around and improved. Maybe signed Tyson.
Their third-best player in '05 was Mike James? Fuck, what a waste of talent.
friskykillface
Banned
LOL what, someone really avatar bet the Celtics would beat the Heat in the playoffs?
lolololololwow
god mode Battier will kill everyone these playoffs, he sucked last playoffs(until the finals) and hes ready, even steroid Lewis will hit jumpers.
lolololololwow
god mode Battier will kill everyone these playoffs, he sucked last playoffs(until the finals) and hes ready, even steroid Lewis will hit jumpers.
Syphon Filter
Member
you forgot ray ray.
sans_pants
avec_pénis
i just cant see him coming back to play with kobe again. even if you keep him and he gets healthier, how is that old ass roster going to compete going forward? getting better around dwight?
id honestly like to know
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
Where's he gonna go? Miami?
We got into a 17-25 hole because Robert scare and chris Duhon were playing big minutes. We've won 70% of our games recently despite how Kobe plays as long as he's efficient - which he was last night. As for Kobe being ass on defense, Dwight has been much worse than his usual self, Nash is horrible, so is Jamison and Gasol. Again, u moaning and whining when Kobe misses a shot but keeping your mouth shut when Dwight goes 1-7 and Nash goes 1-7 is the reason I told you to STFU.
And you watched every laker game this season? Congrats. That's like "I been watching lakers since I was 10" except much much more pathetic. You're crazy if you think a guy shooting like 55% which is what he's been doing since the all star break is bad basketball.
Out of everyone in our team, Kobe's the only guy who hasn't missed a game due to injuries or is playing at or above his last season level. Everyone else has dropped off significantly AND is missing games. We complain about Dwight because he's Koufus bad and complain about Nash because he hasn't been able to consistently figure out how to run the PNR with Dwight. That's Kobe's fault too? That the Nash Dwight PnR has basically been reduced to Nash pull up jumper or bust?
Go watch college ball if you're so averse to a superstar shooting guard taking 20 fga a game and scoring at a 55% clip.
obijkenobi
Member
It would be hard. I mean, they traded all their picks to get Nash, and Kobe is going to be making 30 million. Their only trade bait next year will be Gasol's expiring contract, but the way he's played this season, I'm not sure what the Lakers would honestly get for him.
This is why I will continue to say Nash was a huge mistake. I think he's a fine player and a good addition to almost any team. But for what the Lakers gave up to get him, at 40 years old, was stupid.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
Dwight at 100% is a game changer. Top 5 NBA talent when he's used correctly. He's currently hurt and maybe top 20 maybe. A healthy Dwight makes a huge difference even if outside of that nothing else really changes on the roster.
At next year's trade deadline Pau's contract will make GMs flip in their chair, Paying 30 games or whatever worth of his contract for a season to get out of long term deals.
An alternative to the 'chip as soon as possible' plan, tell Dwight to be patient and wait for Kobe and Pau to expire and go on a shopping spree. Only Nash and Dwight will be on the books in 2 seasons.
Black Mamba
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Dwight will have the chance to go for 1 more year in LA with this core if he wants and if he's 100% + the Lakers are healthy, he can be convinced to contend.
After that the Lakers will have no on on the payroll but Dwight and an expiring Nash.
Lebron can be a free agent.
Don't think the Lakers haven't thought this through.
After that the Lakers will have no on on the payroll but Dwight and an expiring Nash.
Lebron can be a free agent.
Don't think the Lakers haven't thought this through.
Kobe is old dude. Get over it. Forgive me for not blaming the one guy who covers everyone else's defensive mistakes with a broken back and the other who try's to get everyone else involved while leaving his ego at the door. Kobe has been unwilling to make any sacrifices for his team.....he did for a time but that went out the window following the all star break. I wonder why. I had no issues with kobe for those stretch of games...and my post history shows that.
EDIT: And college ball? LOL How about i just watch the spurs, celtics, denver, clippers, memphis,chicago, indiana................It's called team ball.
obijkenobi
Member
Do you think Kobe retires in 2 seasons? And that if he doesn't, the Lakers won't sign him? I think Dwight might have come back too early, and he obviously has a chance to regain his form, but no one really knows what his peak is now. He might not have it in him to be a top 5 player anymore. It'll be interesting to see what the Lakers do next season.
As for trading Gasol, yeah, GM's might be chopping at the bit for getting rid of shit contracts, but that just means you'd be taking back shit contracts. You might be getting a good player, but at what mid to long term cost?
MorisUkunRasik
Member
Even if Dwight leaves, LA is gonna be ok.
That 2014 spending spree is gonna burn the league's soul slow.
That 2014 spending spree is gonna burn the league's soul slow.
Justin Timberlake
Member
Its pretty much a closed book at this point.
Carmelo Anthony will never be the best player on a championship team.
Hes had plenty of help over the years, and tons of opportunities, but hes never even gotten close.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
Perhaps. Giving a teams an out on 19 mil worth of contracts isn't an offer that comes very often. Lakers would have some leverage, while I expect LA to compromise a little, getting rid of Pau and getting a starter + bench pieces would be a really huge roster upgrade.
Get your arguments in a row. Nash wasn't getting everyone involved when he was sitting out during most of the 17-25 run. Dwight wasn't covering people's mistakes until about 3 weeks ago when we got into that hole. Your problem with Kobe has nothing to do with actual facts, or whether he's performing well or playing efficiently. It's essentially
"I prefer passing. Kobe old"
You have every right to be a troll. But to constantly moan and whine and post like 5 or 6 complaint posts singling out every Kobe mistake when he was Having a great game and others were struggling is just beyond silly. It's like watching a HEAT game and only posting when you can talk shitnabout a Lebron missed FG. Yes Kobe's a bad defender he's got zombie legs and lateral speed. But when we were going 17-25 no one was a good defender, not even Dwight.
Edit: Also, no sacrifices? really? Nash is the PG, Kobe is guarding his man. That's a sacrifice to save Nash's legs. Sacrifices aren't just shot attempts dude. Kobe's had injuries and still played this season when medically cleared "it's my life" Dwight was sitting on his ass in a suit. Look at his shot attempts last year vs this year, and his usage rate last year vs this year. You literally have no idea what you're talking about at this point.
Black Mamba
Member
I doubt they trade him because he is an expiring (unless Dwight leaves). They don't want to add on long term money with Lebron possibly a UFA.
Kobe comes back but obviously not for $30 million or anywhere close.
They could have
Nash
Kobe
Dwight
and room for a max or near max (nash will also be an easy piece to move if need be).
Vag - he won't be able to complain in a few months so don't worry.
Justin Timberlake
Member
Wow, Vag really does have a strawman in every post
Like, he doesn't even try to hide it
Like, he doesn't even try to hide it
MorisUkunRasik
Member
Is Lakers-age over the idea of Pau sticking around yet?
Dude is too slow to play the 4 anymore, he can't do it. At this point in his career he should have been transitioned to the 5 full time like KG. Dwight being in LA is the end of Pau as a Laker.
Dude is too slow to play the 4 anymore, he can't do it. At this point in his career he should have been transitioned to the 5 full time like KG. Dwight being in LA is the end of Pau as a Laker.
obijkenobi
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Real talk question because I honestly haven't watched many Lakers games...How is Nash this season? I keep seeing him mentioned as a core player, but the dude is pretty old now. He's in great shape, but think he'll be worthy of being a "core" player next season?
I actually have the same doubts about Manu for next season, but I think Leonard stepping up to take some pressure off the big 3 has been huge for us this year.
LOL comparing lebron and kobe. More than half the time lebron will make the right play and it's not even close. Kobe's decisions are just stupid. If he was younger doing all that stuff and didn't have any help maybe i could tolerate that shit, but forgive me if don't now. And you know what, dwight is the only guy who has consistently played ANY kind of defense on this lakers team.
What was the straw man, enlighten me.
MorisUkunRasik
Member
He can still shoot and pass, but with him playing off the ball his impact is diminshed. His D still isn't very good.
I expect him to be about as good next year as he has been this year.
Justin Timberlake
Member
Its so hard to gauge how good Manu is with the way Pop uses him...
With this Tony injury, we might have our answer: Manu will be more aggressive
I don't expect Pop to play him any more than normal, but at least we won't have 20 pt leads by the time he checks in lol
Who gives a crap if he's younger? He's performing at the same offensive level as always. And as for "less help"...once again, he's played this way to the tune of multiple championships. You're literally butt hurt because he is shooting 20 shots a game. He shot 19 last night, below his season average and you're moaning. This is all about a preference for a style of basketball for you. It's got nothing to do with reality. LA has been just fine after the all star break and Kobe has been great and efficient.
If you wanted this moaning nonsense last year when he was shooting 40% for like 2 months and shooting his team out of games I would understand. But this is just silly.
Red Blaster
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Pau's too feeble to defend either the 4 or the 5
he's a bench player at this point of his career