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2013 NBA Playoffs |OT| Lakers started from the bottom, and they still there
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captmcblack
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James Harden won the award a year ago playing 31 and a half minutes. Crawford won it in 2010 playing 31 minutes with almost identical averages. Leandro Barbosa played 33 minutes a game and won the award in 2007. Jet Terry won it in 2009 playing 33 minutes a game.
Why can't Smith win it?
lawlohwhat
Banned
You knicks kids better watch out when they get back to TD garden...
Black Mamba
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Because he shot a below average TS%, that's why.
I mean, JR plays ignorant ass basketball. That IQ is smfh bad alot of the time. Watching him in Denver, and now with the Knicks, the only difference is that he made a few more of his ridiculous shots that he shouldn't have taken in the first place. And hes in a bigger market.
Still love Melo, and I'm ok with the knicks as a team, but JR is frustrating to watch more often than not.
Still love Melo, and I'm ok with the knicks as a team, but JR is frustrating to watch more often than not.
captmcblack
Member
Is that the lone qualifier for 6th man of the year?
Let's say that the competitors for 6MOTY were Crawford, Nate Robinson and Jarrett Jack. Can we have a comparison between them and an illustration why JR shouldn't have won it?
That would give him even more room to shoot jumpshots, he would be higher than them in %.
I think Jack had better stats in less minutes..
Future PhaZe
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Eric Bledsoe has odd PER 36 numbers. 15, 5, and 5. Not bad or anything but a guy with his efficiency and 3 ball seems like he'd at least flirt with 20 PPG.
Black Mamba
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Jamal Crawford shot better from the field, 3, and FT line and scored at a better rate (only played 5 less minutes). He also led the best bench in the NBA and an actual bench unit (smith was much more like a starter)
Jarrett Jack also shot better from the field, 3, and FT line and although he scored at a lower rate, he assisted a lot (almost 6 per game).
Nate I don't care about.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
I can't believe theres somebody out there who voted Luke Babbitt as their 3rd choice for 6MOTY.
Black Mamba
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Jordan crawford got a vote but there's a good chance the guy meant Jamal. Apparently it's computerized and there are a lot of old guys voting...
well they got something right besides MVP
Red Blaster
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kevin pelton said:
heavy konex am cry
Future PhaZe
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Advanced stats seem to support this + my anecdotal evidence of John Wall destroying their team without Marc in the lineup.
Yea, unfortunately they are worst in the league bad without him tho on offense
Not sure if that means anything
ratcliffja
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I love Bledsoe, but he has a tendency to attack the basket and then forget that people typically don't shoot when the rim is directly above their heads. He's extremely aggressive and very athletic, but his decision making leaves a lot to be desired.
too much eslim
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Take away his points in the paint and he's still within a percentage point of Carmelo and Kobe's total FG%.
However that is my point. The goal is to make Lebron take more shots to get his points. If all he has to do is dunk and get layups that is easy for him.
Black Mamba
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Bledsoe is not a good 3 point shooter. He is left wiiiiiiiide open for his 3s. If Ray Allen got those looks, he'd shoot 60%.
Byakuya769
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I'm just taking exception to "he'll be a mere mortal." He'll still be sharing space with the best scorers in the game.
Well even YNB/Durant/Chandler would be a better trio than YNB/Durant/Ibaka.
guys guys guys
I just caught up to game of thrones
let me just say it is the best tv show I've watched to date
breaking bad was phenomenal and is a close 2nd
the walking dead was great but lagged in too many parts for my tastes
I know that's not a lot of tv shows to base an opinion on, but GoT is the GOAT for me.
time to start the wire.
I just caught up to game of thrones
let me just say it is the best tv show I've watched to date
breaking bad was phenomenal and is a close 2nd
the walking dead was great but lagged in too many parts for my tastes
I know that's not a lot of tv shows to base an opinion on, but GoT is the GOAT for me.
time to start the wire.
For now, yes (and this is ignoring Chandler's injury history).
But for the future? I mean, we're already 60-wins good with a YNB-Durant-Ibaka core and they're all super-young.
Vire
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Band of Brothers and The Wire shit on Game of Thrones, but that's just my opinion.
from what people have told me, I expect to love the wire. but I'm a huge nerd and love tits and dragons. it'll be hard to top that.
Future PhaZe
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Hard to watch multiple The Wire episodes in a row without slitting your wrists though.
Yeah, for me The Sopranos is the perfect mix of being fun to watch but still maintaining a fantastic sense of drama.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I really shouldn't care about NBA awards, but JR Smith isn't close to as good as Derrick Favors is at basketball.
Vire
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9 Points isn't exactly a sexy pick, but yes he does shoot a much better percentage (mainly because they are all dunks....)
He's a solid and serviceable player, but nothing to write home about.
Wait.. you are talking about Favors?
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Kobe was robbed.
Vire
Member
Yes, 9 points and 7 rebounds in 22 minutes really isn't anything that special.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Well, he was the best player on a 43 win team.
I don't JR Smith will ever be that, but OK.
Defensive centers have their value come from more than points.
Do you think Marc Gasol isn't that special of a player?
Vire
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I said he's a solid player, but Marc Gasol shits all over him.
Gasol has more of a mid-range game than Favors and he is a better defensive player.
He will be a special player.. i'm not advocating for sixth man of the year though.
MorisUkunRasik
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He's a defesnive Center. He's not on the court to score, he's there to keep the other team from scoring. When Corbin finally unleashes him, he could very easily be a double double machine.
edit: I don't think he's 6MoY btw, but he could be a future DPoY.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
But Marc Gasol's points and rebounds aren't that impressive.
But he's a still a great player.
Because there's more to playing center than volume scoring (and yes, Marc Gasol is easily better, I don't debate this)
Vire
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Right and I'm saying Gasol is much more versatile in his game. Favors can dunk and play solid defense, that's about it.
Gasol's rebounds should be better to be quite frank, that's one area he needs to improve on.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Breaking Bad
Mad Men
The Wire
in that order
Mad Men
The Wire
in that order
Future PhaZe
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Hard to really compare the two. Gasol is clearly better offensively but hard to know if his rebound numbers are legit due to Randolph swallowing them up so well.
And Favors plays with so many other bigs that it's hard to get a gauge on what he would do as a starter until it actually happens.
He's clearly gonna be good tho.
Quality shows but do you take antidepressants? Those are some downer shows.
And Favors plays with so many other bigs that it's hard to get a gauge on what he would do as a starter until it actually happens.
He's clearly gonna be good tho.
Quality shows but do you take antidepressants? Those are some downer shows.
Byakuya769
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Descending order?
JR Smith is good. He just does stupid shit some times. If he was a smarter player he wouldn't be the Knicks sixth man though. He played smarter this year than he has previously.
I would take Brook and Marc over Dwight.
Vire
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I guess in a league that is desperately starved for a solid center, an above average center certainly stands out. I can't remember a time where Centers were this bad in the league as a whole.
You got what? Brook Lopez?... Dwight Howard? Marc Gasol? Favors? Hibbert?
Umm...
Birdman? :lol
Future PhaZe
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Is that because you think he won't ever get healthy again or what because Dwights numbers pre-injury are kind of insane. An average of like 113 ORTG and like 95 DRTG multiple seasons in a row.
In comparison Brook is rocking like 114 ORTG this year and like 105 on D.
Black Mamba
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Hibbert, Duncan, Gortat, Chandler, Drummond, McGee, Pekovic, Monroe, Sanders.
I mean, it's bad, but it's not that bad you have to list Birdman (and he's a PF btw)
Red Blaster
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vire showing how little he knows about basketball in his last few posts
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