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[Mushroomer25]

Are you shitting me? Mission Control was one of only two things in midseason I was actually looking forward to. Unique premise, great cast - and NBC shoots it in the head before they even get a chance.

 

[jamesinclair]

Broadchurch is getting a second series though.

I also fail to see why drama is unacceptable but comedy isn't. A remake is a remake.

Humor can be very different by region

UK has a lot of surrealist humor that would never fly in the US. Puns might also fall flat due to differences in word usage.

Drama though? No difference.

 

[TheAbsolution]

Humor can be very different by region

UK has a lot of surrealist humor that would never fly in the US. Puns might also fall flat due to differences in word usage.

Drama though? No difference.

I point to Shameless as a good example of why networks try their own stuff out. Different perspectives and directors can produce a different and in some cases better product, so why not try?

 

[jamesinclair]

I point to Shameless as a good example of why networks try their own stuff out. Different perspectives and directors can produce a different and in some cases better product, so why not try?

I'm not saying never do a remake, the problem is, they NEVER air the original.

Why not both?

 

[Jest Chillin]

I point to Shameless as a good example of why networks try their own stuff out. Different perspectives and directors can produce a different and in some cases better product, so why not try?

Shameless is actually a really great example. I'd actually also point to Being Human as another decent example. Sometimes the cultural aspects of the shows change the way the drama plays off to a foreign audience. Other times the differences in the format itself makes remakes hit better than simply transplanting (Luther would get tired incredibly fast in a 12-22 episode format while Being Human UK and Misfits suffers from the cast shuffling that tends to happen more often in UK productions).

 

[TheAbsolution]

I'm not saying never do a remake, the problem is, they NEVER air the original.

Why not both?

Because they have limited airspace and they want to fill it up with original content that they can control better. Plus other channels can air the original if they want to.

 

[jamesinclair]

Because they have limited airspace and they want to fill it up with original content that they can control better. Plus other channels can air the original if they want to.

No, they don't have limited air space. They have 22 episodes for a 52 week year.

Fox is airing Bob's burgers reruns on Tuesdays in October for crying out loud.

Threes plenty of space for foreign shows with 6 to 10 episode seasons.

 

[Kabouter]

Transparent - A-
Kingdom - B+
Jane the Virgin - B
Marry Me - B
A to Z - B
The Affair - B-
How to Get Away with Murder - B-
Red Band Society: C+
The Flash - C+
Black-ish - C+
Selfie - C-
Manhattan Love Story: D
Mysteries of Laura: D
Stalker: F-

Seen every episode of these available.

You've seen every episode available...of Scorpion

 

[ivysaur12]

You've seen every episode available...of Scorpion

HAVE I?! (I haven't)

 

[Parallax]

- THR: NBC Cancels Comedy 'Mission Control' Before Premiere

Were the scientists dudes from better off ted in that?

 

[Tragicomedy]

I'm a TV lightweight, but here's what I've managed to catch so far.

Cristela - B+
Gotham - B
Mulaney - F
Outlander - A
Red Band Society - C+
Scorpion - D
Star Wars Rebels - F
Survivor's Remorse - B+

Still need to watch The Flash, and eager for Constantine (though I expect it will suck).

 

[Sober]

You've seen every episode available...of Scorpion

Trust me, you don't want to.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

Humor can be very different by region

UK has a lot of surrealist humor that would never fly in the US. Puns might also fall flat due to differences in word usage.

Drama though? No difference.

Comedy can be very different, but it isn't always. ABC was going to remake the British series Spy a few years ago even though the original was something that would have easily fit in with ABC's other shows. Moone Boy is the same thing.

Remaking a foreign show isn't inherently a bad thing, it's worked for both comedies and dramas, but I'm not a fan of the idea in general for either genre.

 

[TheOddOne]

- Deadline: ‘Selfie’, ‘Manhattan Love Story’ & ‘Forever’ Get Orders For More Scripts From ABC

ABC has picked up three scripts each of freshman series Selfie, Manhattan Love Story and Forever. The network has now given some sort of orders to all of its new series after hot drama How To Get Away With Murder and comedy Black-ish received full-season pickups last week.

 

[anaron]

Of what I've seen:

How to get away with murder - B

The Flash - B+

Jane the Virgin - B

Blackish - C+

Marry Me - B

Gotham - C

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

So now we are </scorpion> shaming?m

 

[Patryn]

CBS launched a subscription service? The fuck?

Shame that they'll blackout NFL games on the streaming, though. Would have been a nice way to do an end-run around NFL Sunday Ticket.

 

[Penguin]

- Deadline: ‘Selfie’, ‘Manhattan Love Story’ & ‘Forever’ Get Orders For More Scripts From ABC

Didn't see that coming

I guess just going to stick with their Tuesday line-up and hope for the best?

 

[Palmer_v1]

Transparent - A-
Kingdom - B+
Jane the Virgin - B
Marry Me - B
A to Z - B
The Affair - B-
How to Get Away with Murder - B-
Red Band Society: C+
The Flash - C+
Black-ish - C+
Selfie - C-
Manhattan Love Story: D
Mysteries of Laura: D
Stalker: F-

Seen every episode of these available.

You've seen every episode available...of Scorpion

HAVE I?! (I haven't)

I see a lot of people giving Star Wars Rebels an F. What's so bad about it?

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

Didn't see that coming

I guess just going to stick with their Tuesday line-up and hope for the best?

They probably don't have enough stuff to replace everything. A new good show would probably still get low ratings on that night if it still had the other crappy shows around it.

 

[DrEvil]

- Deadline: ‘Selfie’, ... Get Orders For More Scripts From ABC

#whatthefuck

 

[TheSlySoul]

From the new series that I have seen...

How to Get Away With Murder - B-
Gotham - B
Mulaney - F
Utopia - F
Selfie - D
A to Z - C
Stalker - F-- (Probably the worst premiere)
Red Band Society - C+
Mysteries of Laura - B+

Overall not too bad.
Still watching the C and up crowd.

 

[Zaph]

Not entirely relevant, but I thought you guys might get a kick out of this - Seth Rogan talking about meeting the guy who cancelled Freaks and Geeks.

Makes you wonder how many other great shows get cancelled for similar reasons.

 

[Sober]

- Deadline: ‘Selfie’, ‘Manhattan Love Story’ & ‘Forever’ Get Orders For More Scripts From ABC

This is weird considering everyone is saying each one of these series is on the chopping block for early cancellation. But then again script orders != episode orders.

So now we are </scorpion> shaming?m

Scorpion is actually pretty crappy. I usually don't give Kurtzman/Orci shit for anything but I feel like they really just put their names on this to collect paycheques this time around.

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

This is weird considering everyone is saying each one of these series is on the chopping block for early cancellation. But then again script orders != episode orders.


Scorpion is actually pretty crappy. I usually don't give Kurtzman/Orci shit for anything but I feel like they really just put their names on this to collect paycheques this time around.

It's gonna last for ten seasons like Criminal Minds.
Peace brah, time to watch Madame Secretary.

 

[Cornballer]

- Wed ratings from TVbtN:

On ABC, a repeat of the special Toy Story of TERROR! earned a 1.8 adults 18-49 rating, down 42 percent from a 3.1 for last year’s premiere. It’s The Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown notched a 2.1, down 5 percent from last year's 2.2 adults 18-49 rating. Modern Family garnered a 3.3, down 6 percent from last week's (reissued) 3.5 adults 18-49 rating. black-ish scored a 2.5, down 11 percent from last week's (reissued) 2.8 adults 18-49 rating. Nashville earned a 1.3, down 13 percent from last week's 1.5 adults 18-49 rating.

On CBS, Survivor earned a 2.3, down 8 percent from last week's 2.5 adults 18-49 rating. Criminal Minds scored a 2.4, up 4 percent from last week's 2.3 adults 18-49 rating. Stalker matched last week's 1.7 adults 18-49 rating.

On NBC, The Mysteries of Laura matched last week’s 1.3 adults 18-49 rating. Law & Order: SVU matched last week's 1.7 adults 18-49 rating. Chicago P.D. scored a 1.6, up 7 percent from last week's 1.5 adults 18-49 rating.

On FOX, Hell's Kitchen notched a 1.2, down 14 percent from last week's 1.4 adults 18-49 rating. Red Band Society matched last week’s 0.9 adults 18-49 rating.

On The CW, Arrow scored a 0.8 adults 18-49 rating , down 20 percent from a 1.0 for last week's premiere.

 

[ivysaur12]

This is weird considering everyone is saying each one of these series is on the chopping block for early cancellation. But then again script orders != episode orders.


Scorpion is actually pretty crappy. I usually don't give Kurtzman/Orci shit for anything but I feel like they really just put their names on this to collect paycheques this time around.

I would say almost every single new show this fall is going to get some sort of a back order. It's a weird year.

 

[TheAbsolution]

I would say almost every single new show this fall is going to get some sort of a back order. It's a weird year.

Even Red Band Society?

 

[ivysaur12]

Even Red Band Society?

I said almost, but Fox has had such a shitty fall, who knows.

 

[dead souls]

I said almost, but Fox has had such a shitty fall, who knows.

Who knows indeed. They don't really have anything to look forward to in the spring besides the severely weakened American Idol. It's going to be a long damn year for them.

 

[Joni]

It seems like only a few stations have shows prepared for the mid-season. Stuff like Glee, The Mentalist and Parks and Recreation are still coming though. The CW seems to have the most reserve, they have iZombie and The Messengers.

 

[Danthrax]

Forever — C
Gotham — B-
Gracepoint — C
How to Get Away With Murder — B-
Scorpion — F
Stalker — D-
Star Wars Rebels — B+

New TV shows are kinda disappointing this season. The Flash isn't on my list because I haven't tried it yet, although I intend to.

 

[abolisher6812]

- Deadline: ‘Selfie’, ‘Manhattan Love Story’ & ‘Forever’ Get Orders For More Scripts From ABC

I'm happy that Manhattan Love Story is getting a few more episodes. I thought this weeks episode was pretty good.

 

[Weapxn]

Forever — C
Gotham — B-
Gracepoint — C
How to Get Away With Murder — B-
Scorpion — F
Stalker — D-
Star Wars Rebels — B+

New TV shows are kinda disappointing this season. The Flash isn't on my list because I haven't tried it yet, although I intend to.

In what world is Gotham better than Stalker? No. Absolutely not.

 

[ivysaur12]

In what world is Gotham better than Stalker? No. Absolutely not.

In every world because one doesn't start their pilot with a woman burning in her car.

 

[Weapxn]

In every world because one doesn't start their pilot with a woman burning in her car.

I liked that.

Gotham is horrible. First show I gave up this season.

 

[catmincer]

I liked that.

Gotham is horrible. First show I gave up this season.

So did I. Staker is totally OTT and I enjoy it for that.

 

[ivysaur12]

I liked that.

Gross.

 

[Weapxn]

Gross.

Hello, pot. I'm kettle.

We both like Hannibal. Far worse has happened on that. Including burnt bodies.

 

[ivysaur12]

Hello, pot. I'm kettle.

We both like Hannibal. Far worse has happened on that. Including burnt bodies.

Except one doesn't take pornographic pleasure in the maiming of women and act as a how to guide for stalking.

It's a disgusting, vile show. It's gross. I'm disgusted that it's actually airing on television.

 

[cory64]

Hannibal also has the necessary context to its proceedings to handle that kind of graphic material.

 

[AngmarsKing701]

If you watch Scorpion straight, like it's a serious attempt at a new 21st century television show, then yeah it's an F for failure

If you watch it as an homage to 80s cheese like The A Team or Riptide, then it's a C

Spoiler

for cheese

 

[Tamanon]

Also, there's nothing a stalking case brings that can't be incorporated in any of the procedurals. I just don't see the appeal, seems like an incredibly specific plot device.

 

[TheOddOne]

 

[AngmarsKing701]

Wow

Words escape me

 

[Clevinger]

oh my lord

I think I have to watch this now. Thanks, TV-GAF...

fake edit: That's Christopher Walken? I AM watching this.

 

[ivysaur12]

This is everything that the world ever needed ever.

 

[LumpOfCole]

Without Scorpion, how am I to learn how to fend off a drunken attacker?

http://a.pomf.se/tyoqna.webm

 

[electroflame]

If you watch Scorpion straight, like it's a serious attempt at a new 21st century television show, then yeah it's an F for failure

If you watch it as an homage to 80s cheese like The A Team or Riptide, then it's a C

Spoiler

for cheese

I'm still watching it because others want to watch it (in this case, if they will sit through a show I like that they may not love, I'll sit through one they like that I may not love) but it's honestly not awful.

It's not what I would call "good" but it's also not so bad that I'd consider it unwatchable. I will say that the show would be much better without stupid Happy, though. Her voice drives me nuts.

Essentially:
Scorpion: C to C+ (i.e. watchable)
Scorpion without Happy: B

 

[Sober]

Instead of watching Scorpion, you could, I dunno, watch Leverage instead.