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2014 Australian Government Budget |OT| Throw some debt on the barbie
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EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
maybe this is all one big viral marketing for wolfenstein: new order
You've always had to pay interest on your HECS-HELP debt.
You can only dream can't you. Thank fuck I turn 30 in a few months.
Elaugaufein
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Can you point at the relevant section? I'm doing a PhD at the moment so this is likely going to suck.
Sutton Dagger
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I was just reading that HECS will no longer be tied to inflation (about 3%) but will be subject to interest calculated at about 6%...
Elaugaufein
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No. It increases with inflation but there was no interest as such.
Sutton Dagger
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It's always been tied to inflation, the new 'interest' rate will be roughly double inflation.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-13/budget-winners-and-losers/5433178
As a 20 year old indigenous university student with disabilities, brb moving to New Zealand or something
As a 20 year old indigenous university student with disabilities, brb moving to New Zealand or something
Not just inflation indexing
Sorry, still looking through documents while trying to keep an eye on the ABC.
I know you're excited mate but geez, a budget thread? Pull your shit together man!
The debt didn't increase in constant dollars, doesn't count
Ruthless_Barbarian
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So am I the only one here unaffected by the new budget?
Single, no family - check.
Never been sick - check.
Work pays for fuel - check.
Don't earn more than 100k/year - check.
Although, the cuts to environment and climate change means I may not have a job next year.
Single, no family - check.
Never been sick - check.
Work pays for fuel - check.
Don't earn more than 100k/year - check.
Although, the cuts to environment and climate change means I may not have a job next year.
Canada here I come.
They could force a Double Dissolution but I doubt the ALP have it in them…
Young Libs, receiving welfare? ahahhahahahhAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHaHahhahhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Lucian Cat
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England is sounding better and better. They need nurses there right?
Bulbagarden
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If that RTS funding cut is going to apply to people already doing a research degree, I'm screwed. I'm already at the FEE-HELP funding limit, so I can't put any fees onto that, and I'd be forced to pay for those up front. There's no way in hell I can afford to pay that.
The more I think about the more I feel that this is a method of dropping the dole below minimum wage while keeping people happier than a minimum wage drop would
They could force a Double Dissolution but I doubt the ALP have it in them
Young Libs, receiving welfare? ahahhahahahhAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAHaHahhahhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Ask them - https://www.facebook.com/YoungLibs
I think they're cutting things there as well.
Look towards East Asia - aged care there. Maybe Japan but that would be no better than staying in Aus.
Maybe go for RN if you aren't one already? And go for a private hospital?
ThoseDeafMutes
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200 mil for dementia research?
My workplace is a Dementia Research and Education centre. Maybe my job is safer than I thought.
:lol
My workplace is a Dementia Research and Education centre. Maybe my job is safer than I thought.
:lol
Lucian Cat
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Several months off being an en plus many many years of aged care experience. Maybe I'll be alright here. There'll always be old people...
Can we come crash on your couch for a few years?
AdventureRacing
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Yeah but in general that's mostly if you're an RN with a little bit of experience.
Nursing is one of the few areas with tons of work around at the moment especially in aged care. That's only going to grow in the future with the way our population is going.
Good luck Australia.
We've had to go through the same in the UK, right wing government scaring the population with stories about massive debts, then when they get into power make horrible cuts, based on nothing other than ideological reasons, claiming they HAD to be done, or the UK will go bust.
Bunch of cunts, the lot of them.
Luckily there is still enough public support for the NHS that they haven't yet got round to adding any upfront costs to visiting GP/Hospital, but they have done a lot of privatisation behind the scenes, so it's only a matter or time.
Hope we can kick them out next year.
We've had to go through the same in the UK, right wing government scaring the population with stories about massive debts, then when they get into power make horrible cuts, based on nothing other than ideological reasons, claiming they HAD to be done, or the UK will go bust.
Bunch of cunts, the lot of them.
Luckily there is still enough public support for the NHS that they haven't yet got round to adding any upfront costs to visiting GP/Hospital, but they have done a lot of privatisation behind the scenes, so it's only a matter or time.
Hope we can kick them out next year.
Lucian Cat
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True.
Man I hope this twat doesn't screw us over too much. I know we're a hardy country, but jeez
Elaugaufein
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I'd already seen that but thanks. Was more looking for details similar to Bulba's post question.
Also did I enter a parallel reality where having fewer researchers/ researchers under greater financial pressure, increases the quality of research?
Something something free market something something roads
ffs
Here was my thought pattern on reading this post and it's all your fault:
haha england.
england have bad teeth.
dental plan!
lisa needs braces.
dental plan!
lisa needs braces.
Lucian Cat
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My work here is done
reptilescorpio
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Elaugaufein
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But a lot of those people will be forced to suffer due to a lack of safety net which will either a) make them look harder for new jobs or b) die. Either way problem solved.
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A More Normal Bird
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No you see the thing is that public servants are greedy unambitious grubs so sacking them en masse will force them to develop entrepreneurial spirit so they will start new businesses and have no shortage of potential labour because young and old and sick people and people who chose jobs that we're really just not all that fond of will be starving and desperate to work thus saving the economy.
Tim the Wiz
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What they're doing to education is just outright stupid.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Okay so, help me out here. Let's say someone under thirty, well under thirty, from a low economic family bracket is struggling to find employment. Education seems expensive, they're looking for work and looking at possible study, but they know even if they attempt an education they're probably going to need some support. After all, they live far away from universities and TAFEs. They need to consider the expense of either frequent travel or moving, both of which are hard to do while being supported by their already struggling family.
So they apply for newstart, hoping it will give them the economic support they need.
What do they do for the six month cooling period?
So they apply for newstart, hoping it will give them the economic support they need.
What do they do for the six month cooling period?
jim-jam bongs
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Phew, maybe I should stay in the US.
HAHA J/K
HAHA J/K
Ruthless_Barbarian
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$5bn less to schools each year.
$15bn less to health each year.
$15bn less to health each year.
AdventureRacing
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Fuck knows. I'm not even sure what the point of it is supposed to be.
Both of which will have huge ramifications in the future.
jim-jam bongs
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Oh yeah, and I love the 25 hours of mandatory Work For The Dole every week for jobless people under 30. That will totally help them to devote time to looking for a job, in between providing slave labour to the business community and any other commitments they may have like childcare.
Also imagine how much more power this gives bosses. Who's going to risk getting fired if you're up for six months with no guaranteed safety net right off the bat?
Also, do they imagine this is going to encourage people to leave home? Who's going to fucking support them if they lose their jobs?
Also, do they imagine this is going to encourage people to leave home? Who's going to fucking support them if they lose their jobs?
Pray mum/dad can support.
Otherwise on the street with you!
Gangs, prostitution is about to go nuclear - USA style.
Exactly.
Don't forget graduates. They'll take the first job at minimum wage since the alternative is nothing for 6 months.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
No seriously, is this cool off period just for people coming out of education, or all under 30s folk trying to get new start? Is it different to aus study?
Because I'm seriously trying to find balance for those living in rural, low economic areas looking to improve their life by pursuing education they most likely cannot find in their area. This will require they travel and/or move, which is where stuff like aus study and new start are supposed to come in. Usually before so people can get situation and begin their study.
If it's universal then these people are basically fucked for life, unless they're content working the shittiest job they can in their home town, living insanely thrifty, just to save up enough to pursue said education elsewhere.
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