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[Red Arremer]

Yeah I somehow feel like next year's contest might be fairly small by comparison. I can see some of them potentially wanting to sit out because of the politically charged nature of the winner, or because they don't want to draw the ire of Russia.

That said, agreed. The more the merrier. I've always been hoping that the EBU starts easing up on the smaller countries' member and participation fees so we can have Andorra, Luxembourg and Monaco come back, and Liechtenstein debut.

 

[Resident_UA]

Yeah I somehow feel like next year's contest might be fairly small by comparison. I can see some of them potentially wanting to sit out because of the politically charged nature of the winner, or because they don't want to draw the ire of Russia.

That said, agreed. The more the merrier. I've always been hoping that the EBU starts easing up on the smaller countries' member and participation fees so we can have Andorra, Luxembourg and Monaco come back, and Liechtenstein debut.

I can see Russia, Armenia, and Belarus sitting out. But why would anyone else? It would be extremely rude to Ukraine. This would definitely make the whole show even more political.

RT never disappoints

Banned link so google it.

The whole thing is gold.

The most insane part to me is that all Russians seem to be convinced that the US really cares about Eurovision for some reason.

 

[SecretMoblin]

I can see Russia, Armenia, and Belarus sitting out. But why would anyone else? It would be extremely rude to Ukraine. This would definitely make the whole show even more political.

I think in the end Russia will cave and send an artist. If they don't they'll probably use the excuse Armenia used for Baku about artist safety - "unfortunately due to a lack of guarantees about the safety of our delegation" etc - or the excuse Turkey uses about the fairness of the system. They could plausibly threaten to walk out indefinitely unless changes are made, which would be a major blow to the EBU.


But yeah the Big 5 and most of the bigger countries will show up. There's no reason not to.

 

[MrPanic]

It seems it isn't the same.
Australia would have won.
https://www.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/4jeeu1/ive_done_the_math_australia_would_have_won_esc/

I'm very glad they actually split up the jury and televotes now. I remember myself complaining about the old system and how the jury could just totally nullify certain votes from the people that are basically paying to vote on something that couldn't even enter the top 10 in the first place. It actually seemed like a scam last year. This new way actually makes it so every vote counts so this seems like a big improvement imo.

 

[DrM]

Yeah I somehow feel like next year's contest might be fairly small by comparison. I can see some of them potentially wanting to sit out because of the politically charged nature of the winner, or because they don't want to draw the ire of Russia.

I do not think that anyone will sit it over due to current situation in Ukraine, unless stuff escalates later this year.
More likely some smaller countries could skip it due to costs, because it is not so cheap for national TVs to organize pre-selections and later all the promotions...

 

[Andrin]

Summaries for this year:

Ukraine: I really want Love and Peace for everyone.
Germany: Animu is more popular than the UK.
UK: We beat Germany.
Russia: Fuck the juries.
Poland: Fuck the juries.
Spain: Back to Spanish for next year.
Georgia: LIGHTS MOTHERFUCKER.
Australia: Not like this.
Sweden: Phew, we won't go bankrupt by having to host again next yea- I mean, well done Frans! Fifth place is totally respectable!

Feel free to add others.

Added Sweden's response.

 

[Katzenjammer]

What a great show this was! From the production to the variety in songs, this year was really a solid one and will be difficult to beat. As for the winning song, I really liked Ukraine's performance and felt that it might win when watching the semis. It was the only song which gave me goosebumps when I heard it. It did something fresh by being so dark and heartfelt, and I love that the ESC winners are often the songs that are innovative in some way.

I just love that this show exists, definitely one of the highlights for me each year.

Btw after looking at the YouTube view counts after the semis it was pretty clear that people would mostly vote for Russia followed by Ukraine. It was a bit of a spoiler in that sense.

 

[Resident_UA]

Apparently Denmark accidentally gave Ukraine 12 points. Kind of emphasizes how ridiculous Eurovision is. I'm very happy that Ukraine won, but I think it's important to remember what kind of contest this is. A lot of news networks are suddenly taking it too seriously which plays in Russia's favor. They are trying to dismiss this win as pure politics on a part of very few jurors. Clearly viewers also liked Ukraine song. It wasn't very far behind Russia in televoting.

Instead of trying to appease Russia they should have covered the story of Crimean Tatars. Remember, just two years ago Russia was acting like Ukraine was oppressing minorities when in reality even in Kiev majority speaks Russian. Crimean Tatars is actually a real minority and their story is too important to ignore.

Hopeless Hilda ensures Eurovision drama continues

 

[DrSlek]

I did it....I actually did it. I purchased a Eurovision song.

I never thought I'd see the day.

 

[SecretMoblin]

I did it....I actually did it. I purchased a Eurovision song.

I never thought I'd see the day.

It's ok bud.

"Falling Stars" is a jam, nothing to be ashamed of.

 

[Bombless]

Anyone interested in some british salt?

The migrants did it!

 

[DrSlek]

It's ok bud.

"Falling Stars" is a jam, nothing to be ashamed of.

Mate, come on. I'm all about Say Yay!

 

[oti]

It's ok bud.

"Falling Stars" is a jam, nothing to be ashamed of.

That's the kind of trash that if it were to disappear forever, the world would be a better place.

 

[spekkeh]

Has Russia already commented on how their singer featured in gay porn and so stimulated the normalcy of homosexuality (which is illegal in Russia)?.

 

[Red Arremer]

Has Russia already commented on how their singer featured in gay porn and so stimulated the normalcy of homosexuality (which is illegal in Russia)?.

Actually he is shown in some fetish porn. It's not gay. And yes, Russia has already commented and their damage control is saying that it's supposed to be a statement against domestic abuse or something like that.

 

[Zelias]

Anyone interested in some british salt?

The migrants did it!

As a Brit it's funny how stuffy we can get about something we all claim not to take seriously at all.

 

[Joni]

Started eliminating songs from my playlist. After two rounds this is left:

- Austria
- Belgium
- Cyprus
- Germany
- Hungary
- Italy
- Russia
- Sweden

Cyprus, Hungary and Sweden could still disappear. Which means it would just be the cute girls and the Mans rip.

Quite weak. I still play 18 songs of 2015 and 20 songs of 2014. Still better than the 5 of 2013.

 

[Tregard]

As a Brit it's funny how stuffy we can get about something we all claim not to take seriously at all.

I think we did take it seriously this year and some people are rightly irritated we did just as poorly as ever. I, personally, am annoyed and upset at the prospect of the higher-ups now just throwing any ol' shit at Eurovision 2017 because they didn't see any improved results from a national selection.

 

[SPCTRE]

Still the best moment of Finals, warp 9 engaged

Germany not moe enough

 

[Zelias]

I think we did take it seriously this year and some people are rightly irritated we did just as poorly as ever. I, personally, am annoyed and upset at the prospect of the higher-ups now just throwing any ol' shit at Eurovision 2017 because they didn't see any improved results from a national selection.

Our entry last year was better than this year's entry imo. Not that it matters. As you say, even when we take it seriously we do poorly, so I don't take it seriously at all.

 

[Dice]

Colbert Nórnaäs for Eurovision 2017!

 

[Tregard]

Our entry last year was better than this year's entry imo. Not that it matters. As you say, even when we take it seriously we do poorly, so I don't take it seriously at all.

I think that's subject to taste (Electro Velvet were an acquired taste, "You're Not Alone" was a really solid song & performance), but you can't deny the way the UK dealt with Eurovision this year was miles ahead of previous years (Getting back the national selection, the advertising focusing on the competition rather than Norton's commentary, etc.), and I pray we retain that, because that sort of this is necessary if we're ever to stand a chance again.

Colbert Nórnaäs for Eurovision 2017!

I really love that they went to the effort of using the correct graphic for the song title and country name, I get the feeling there are some big Eurovision fans on Colbert's team. I honestly look forward to whenever Eurovision grows to encompass all these extra countries (and retains the name Eurovision, because honestly, Worldvision sounds stupid as hell)

 

[Dice]

because honestly, Worldvision sounds stupid as hell

It's also the name of a very well known charity organization.

 

[Tregard]

It's also the name of a very well known charity organization.

All the more reason to keep the name we all know and love!

Eurovision 2020 (w. Australia, Canada, China, South Korea, USA, Scotland, Vatican City & Lichenstein!)

 

[Red Arremer]

Liechtenstein's broadcaster sadly won't compete unless either they get funding from Liechtenstein's government (unlikely) or EBU eases up the costs for smaller countries (even more unlikely, even though it would mean more participants - plus Germany would probably cry a lot about unfair costs or something).

Vatican and Scotland are even more unlikely, unless Scotland does go independent. And Vatican has no interest in competing.

That said, Kazakhstan has become an EBU associate member recently, so a participation within the next few years is very possible.

Colbert Nórnaäs for Eurovision 2017!

Hahaha. The funniest part about this is that it actually could do really well.

 

[oti]

Started eliminating songs from my playlist. After two rounds this is left:

- Austria
- Belgium
- Cyprus
- Germany
- Hungary
- Italy
- Russia
- Sweden

Cyprus, Hungary and Sweden could still disappear. Which means it would just be the cute girls and the Mans rip.

Quite weak. I still play 18 songs of 2015 and 20 songs of 2014. Still better than the 5 of 2013.

I don't really listen to the music after the contest. I'm more like "oh hey remember that one song" and I'll YouTube it.

 

[Red Arremer]

Also as a reminder, today is the last day to send in your votes:

Official EurovisionGAF Vote

- Send me a PM with your country of residence and your votes.
- Tell me whether you want to remain anonymous. Your country will be displayed however.
- No voting for your own country.
- Feel free to also vote for the semis. Note however, that this isn't a vote for all songs, but only the finals, and the 2 semis separately. You can't vote for San Marino in the Finals' vote, for instance.
- You can give out 12, 10, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 and 1 points respectively, so your list should look like this:
A - 12
B - 10
C - 8
etc.
(Starting with 1 and working up to 12 is fine too, just have them in ascending or descending order.)

Also important: While I would appreciate every voter to fill out the entire top 10 list, if you really feel like there's no 10 songs that even slightly appealed to you, you can omit the lower scores.

I will reveal the results in a google doc and maybe make some fancy graphs.

For the country rule:
If you are living in a country that doesn't participate, everything is fair game.
If you are a Greek living in Germany, you cannot vote for Germany.

I will post the final results tomorrow.

 

[Red Arremer]

A bit late but here we go. It stayed the same, 18 votes, but here's the results of the Eurovision GAF ranking.

01. Australia: 161
02. Spain: 123
03. Bulgaria: 102
04. Belgium: 99
05. Austria: 98
06. France: 64
07. Italy: 62
08. Ukraine: 53
09. Germany: 36
10. Russia: 36
11. Latvia: 30
12. The Netherlands: 24
13. Lithuania: 18
14. Malta: 17
15. Armenia: 16
16. Croatia: 15
17. Serbia: 14
18. Sweden: 14
19. Poland: 13
20. Georgia: 12
21. United Kingdom: 10
22. Czech Republic: 10
23. Cyprus: 9
24. Hungary: 4
25. Israel: 2
26. Azerbaijan: 0

Here's the spreadsheet. Google Docs only has 26 columns sadly, which is why I couldn't do both votes and results combined.

Next year I'll set this up before the first semi.

 

[Bedameister]

02. Spain: 123

GAF showed that they got some good taste.

 

[Night Terror]

Well, due that spreadsheet I got curious as to knowing what did we send from Spain this time around to Eurovision.

That girl rocked: Had a good, catchy song, pronounced English in a really, REALLY good way (or better way than most people would ever speak here) and had a really funny/good attitude.

I can't believe we sent something worthy

 

[SecretMoblin]

Well, due that spreadsheet I got curious as to knowing what did we send from Spain this time around to Eurovision.

That girl rocked: Had a good, catchy song, pronounced English in a really, REALLY good way (or better way than most people would ever speak here) and had a really funny/good attitude.

I can't believe we sent something worthy

And it did worse than Edurne last year, which was surprising to many (including me). Getting 10 televoting points total is scandalous. Her English is really good -- her interviews were lots of fun, she's very charming. Shame about the controversy over her singing in English. I hope all of the mess doesn't mean an internal selection next year. Objetivo Eurovisión was a fun way to kick off the preseason.

 

[SecretMoblin]

attn: Oti and German-speaking eurovisionGAF:

http://www.haz.de/Nachrichten/Medie...ngschef-und-ESC-Beauftragten-Thomas-Schreiber

some good nuggets about Germany's place in the contest and their plans for next year

 

[oti]

attn: Oti and German-speaking eurovisionGAF:

http://www.haz.de/Nachrichten/Medie...ngschef-und-ESC-Beauftragten-Thomas-Schreiber

some good nuggets about Germany's place in the contest and their plans for next year

How did they determine the contestants in 2015 and 2016 if not by the song?

"Oh hey you make music and are from Germany, PLEASE ENTER THE CONTEST WITH WHATEVER YOU'VE GOT PLEAAAAASE"?

 

[GAMEPROFF]

attn: Oti and German-speaking eurovisionGAF:

http://www.haz.de/Nachrichten/Medie...ngschef-und-ESC-Beauftragten-Thomas-Schreiber

some good nuggets about Germany's place in the contest and their plans for next year

Spoiler: Wont help anyway

 

[Asgaro]

Still weeping for the fact San Marino got robbed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzPkDb2FSeg

 

[Joni]

How did they determine the contestants in 2015 and 2016 if not by the song?

"Oh hey you make music and are from Germany, PLEASE ENTER THE CONTEST WITH WHATEVER YOU'VE GOT PLEAAAAASE"?

That is how Flanders used to do it from time to time.

 

[spekkeh]

I don't think I heard the winner on the radio once.

 

[oti]

I don't think I heard the winner on the radio once.

It's not really a radio song. And that's OK.

 

[DrM]

Australian song is very common on radio stations here, closely followed by Sweden entry

 

[Asgaro]

It's not really a radio song. And that's OK.

lmao

 

[Joni]

Australian song is very common on radio stations here, closely followed by Sweden entry

Other way around here, the Swedish song is quite popular.

 

[SecretMoblin]

In case you'd like something worthwhile to be outraged about regarding ESC:

Russia is going to stage their national final for Junior Eurovision in Gurzuf, Crimea -- a former Crimean Tatar town.

 

[Peru]

Luckily my country bailed out of Junior Eurovision a long time ago.

 

[Resident_UA]

In case you'd like something worthwhile to be outraged about regarding ESC:

Russia is going to stage their national final for Junior Eurovision in Gurzuf, Crimea -- a former Crimean Tatar town.

Yeah, it's pretty insane. But it's just Russian national final, so I'm not even sure what kind of statement they are making...

 

[oti]

Sweden's If I Were Sorry is playing on the radio right now whyyyyyyyyyyy. I'd rather hear the French or Spanish song again.

(also maybe close this thread I don't know)

 

[Bedameister]

Sweden's If I Were Sorry is playing on the radio right now whyyyyyyyyyyy. I'd rather hear the French or Spanish song again.

(also maybe close this thread I don't know)

Sweden's song was one of the best.

 

[SecretMoblin]

Once when I was playing Euro Truck Simulator 2 and listening to the actual euro internet radio streams the Belgian song from a few years ago, Tom Dice's "Me and My Guitar", started playing. It was incredibly odd to hear it along with a bunch of modern radio pop.

I had no idea it was apparently a hit. I knew Euphoria had some radio presence. Calm After the Storm, too. I know the iconic La La Love kinda smashed in Sweden (it was written partially by Swedes so that makes sense I guess).

 

[oti]

Sweden's song was one of the best.

You are a monster.