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The ocean is red. That is a funny way to display results. Once again, team preference is not the same as hate. Online polls are still a joke.
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The ocean is red. That is a funny way to display results. Once again, team preference is not the same as hate. Online polls are still a joke.
I can't believe this thread has degraded into... this. I miss the old NBA gaf... aka, 5 years ago.
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A joke is still better than nothing at all. I mean what are you basing your claims on?
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The flat out hate and general belittling of heat fans had become a bit absurd
I'm not following you here.
Bam Bam Baklava
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I'm saying prove me wrong bro, prove me wrong.
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How can I prove a straw man wrong? A) Preferring the Spurs to win is not the same as hating Lebron and the Miami Heat B) I was able to vote more than once just now on those polls. C) The world-wide vote count is around 13,000 and I seriously doubt those are all unique votes.
You still have not proven that the world hates the Miami Heat.
Bam Bam Baklava
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I certainly offered more than you have so far. Your side of this argument is basically find me something and then I'm gonna find ways to invalidate it while providing nothing of my own. I'm not sure how I'm supposed to work with that.
CherryWoodFuton
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Dude. You said that the world hates Lebron and the Heat. The poll you posted says nothing about hating the team.
but if you really want another fucken online poll, how about this:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...as-most-popular-player-according-to-espn-poll
How can the world hate Lebron and yet he is the most popular NBA player?
Dear god, please stop. I feel like I'm back in 3rd grade.
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Are you kidding me? Bam Bam is acting like a little kid."Your opinion is invalid because the whole world hates Obama. Here is an online poll showing that people have an unfavorable view of his current decision with regards to Afghanistan"
racketpunch
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Lebron had the number one selling jersey last year. Just leave it at that.
johnny_park
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Yeah but were they unique purchases or did people buy multiple jerseys
I'm not sure why people are getting so heated over it. It's been a part of sports since forever. Unless they know Lebron personally or something. I mean think of all the bitter rivals over the years in the major sports. It's part of the fun.
So with that being said, fuck Lebron and da Heat
I think what people have time and time taken issue with is arguing without valid evidence to back it up.
And no, posting an online poll is not valid evidence. Anyone who has taken any sort of political science or statistics class should know that(though to be fair he did ask you for a poll).
If online polls meant anything Ron Paul would be president right now.
But frankly I could give two shits what the global feeling toward lebron is. It is a silly conversation. Then again plenty of mine have been too so I guess I haven't any room to talk.
I suspect though that feelings toward him are rather polarizing. However he does have the top selling jersey so when it comes to putting your money with who you support, lebron has more people out there wearing his jerseys then anyone else...then again how many other players have such vehement detractors and memes about his shortcomings?
The team or player at the top is always polarizing. People hate the Yankees, the Lakers, the Patriots when they were winning Super Bowls, Duke and Kentucky basketball, Real Madrid. Yet they're also among the most popular teams in their respective sports. It's nothing new. It's just a bit more focused with Lebron because a single player can be a much bigger factor on his own in basketball than in some other sports like football or baseball.
Lots of closet Heat fans out there.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Man, no one is arguing that online polls are scientifically valid. But Gallup doesn't do daily Lebron polls so you can't have such standards when it comes to this conversation. ESPN didn't think that way when they made a daily hour long show literally based around these polls. Having said that does my statement that a majority dislike the Heat strike any of you as so unrealistic that I would need to go out and prove it scientifically?
http://www.businessweek.com/article...-the-nba-finals-just-to-see-lebron-james-lose
Not just an online poll:
http://www.businessweek.com/article...-the-nba-finals-just-to-see-lebron-james-lose
Not just an online poll:
miDnIghtEr20C
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No!
Paul is the King!
"I am the King"
Might need to live in my area to know who that is.DemurOnion
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This is probably how someone would feel if Jason Kidd murdered their pet. Just saying.
DemurOnion
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People hate the team at the top WHO SPENDS ABSURD AMOUNTS OF MONEY and uses strange tactics to get by that may be considered cheating or below the belt for some. People don't just hate top teams. There are legions of good top teams loved the world over, but usually dynasties are bought with a lot of money, bringing in some hate. If they showboat well then you have a perfect storm.
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They also never get into any trouble outside the sport. Are excellent teamates who all sacrificed their games to fit this system. Some took less money to be a part of a great team. They do everything right, they don't trash talk other opponents.
But yes they are hated. Shows how pathetic most people are that they let one dumb event cloud their judgement on everything.
johnny_park
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I didn't know all those other guys were "hated". LeBron, I could see, he's just too good. Wade, because of 2006 finals. I like everyone else on that team but I like the spurs more even though they knocked off my Blazers.
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Your link also says this:
Their conclusion about why viewership dropped is not necessarily correct either. People also like to watch the underdog win. It could also very well be that casual viewership drops when the underdog loses.
That article also links to this: http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2014/story/_/page/mindoffan/how-fans-see-lebron-james
White people hate LeBron:
Granted, I also did say poll, but I assumed people here were intelligent enough to understand how completely unreliable online polling is.
You completely dismissed Vorheez by stating he was belittling people due to the majority of the world hating LeBron. That was my issue, but considering that LeBron not only has the top selling jersey worldwide, but also the top selling shoe, I seriously doubt your statement is correct.
I get it, lots of people hate LeBron with a passion. Mainly white folk I guess, but stop dismissing peoples opinions and conflating your own opinion with that of everyone else.
eternaLightness
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Wtf lol, now this is a race thing?
Edit: didn't see that poll. That's...really weird. Not sure what the difference is between Lebron and all the other black players in the NBA.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Humble. Must be someone else out there called Lebron.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Your link also says this:
Their conclusion about why viewership dropped is not necessarily correct either. People also like to watch the underdog win. It could also very well be that casual viewership drops when the underdog loses.
That article also links to this: http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2014/story/_/page/mindoffan/how-fans-see-lebron-james
White people hate LeBron:
Granted, I also did say poll, but I assumed people here were intelligent enough to understand how completely unreliable online polling is.
You completely dismissed Vorheez by stating he was belittling people due to the majority of the world hating LeBron. That was my issue, but considering that LeBron not only has the top selling jersey worldwide, but also the top selling shoe, I seriously doubt your statement is correct.
I get it, lots of people hate LeBron with a passion. Mainly white folk I guess, but stop dismissing peoples opinions and conflating your own opinion with that of everyone else.
I thought I was supposed to be the strawman here. Also, nice subtle jab there on the intelligence bit. Highest selling jersey and shoe doesn't mean much other than he does have a die hard following. Unless you think the majority of NBA fans are buying his gear.
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Yeah, I was referring to that poll. Kinda weird. I wonder why that is? Maybe they don't like his hairline?
StriKeVillain
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This little dude looks like an alt costume in Guacamelee.
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You ignored everything else, nice.
But personally, sold jerseys and shoes speaks to his popularity and is a bit more reliable than online polls. Do you know how merchandizing works? Die hard fans are not usually enough to propel sales of an item above the rest. The sales of his jersey has actually been trending upward. It was number 3 or so last year I believe.
There is really not much else to say. This whole shit is pretty ridiculous as is.
miDnIghtEr20C
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This kid just rocked the National Anthem.
Great job kid.
Great job kid.
RellyRell28
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Good shit on them bring that little kid back to sign the national anthem
HeisenbergLannister
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That's a lovely, lovely voice.
The Dallas Cowboys are probably the most loved and most hated franchise in football, and the same applies to the New York Yankees. The same applies to Lebron and the Heat, who apparently passed up the Lakers as the favorite NBA team in the US, but yet around 65% percent of the country is routing for the a Spurs. Not because they love the Spurs, but they hate them less.
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