He just doesn't want to embarrass himself again by trying to dunk a fiba ball.
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2014 NBA Off-season |OT| Our cap is tellin me NO! But my fandom is tellin me YEAH!
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Ah, you're right, forgot about that. My bad, I'll show myself out
Still think it's a little inane to be giving a 31 year old role player $32m over 4 years, but hey, guess ORL's gotta hit that salary floor.
Future PhaZe
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they were this close to some huge injuries derailing them though
despite the minute restriction Parker almost had another terrible hamstring issue that he narrowly avoided, manu was probably playing on a stress injury in the finals, and mills has 7 months of rehab ahead of him for a torn rotator cuff
they still should be favored but they are going to need the depth
And they play in the West, where a healthy OKC is still a huge threat to them.
brianjones
Member
gasol would really thrive in SA
Every team is "this close" to derailment because of "huge injuries."
If he takes the Spurs' mle offer and not ours, then I'll be pretty sore about that. Especially when we could use his size more than them. PEACE.
Ninja Scooter
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Gasol's passing skills in that Spurs system?
Jmanunknown
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If the Heat break up it is crazy just to think how wide open would the east be next year. Teams like the Wizards and the Raptors would have realistic shots at making the finals only to be crushed by a western conference team but, they would still make the finals.
CherryWoodFuton
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Nahh it just means that fuckball Indy will be shark food for whoever makes it out West
It's not news. He has been eyeing teams, the obvious contenders, and they're eyeing him.
He has interest in Oklahoma City, too.
Jmanunknown
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Indy does not even have Lance Stephenson under contract so they are not guaranteed to win the east. If Lebron Bolts and so does Bosh who's to say the Heat do not take a run at Lance Stephenson. The Heat breaking up has major consequences for the east especially because if Lebron and Bosh do leave that leaves a lot of open cap space for the Heat.
Indy got weakened badly if Lance leaving though, unless George and Hibbert can play like legit superstar and all-star for whole season.
SyenceLabb
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Hibbert is snake oil. George won't thrive at the point. So definitely not happening.
Yup... Will be interesting if they somehow getting new PG (Rondo?) though.
Yeah is this just speculation people are discussing or was it reported somewhere?
And while we are add it, Gasol on either SAS or Miami Heat would be a great pick up.
SyenceLabb
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I always said that Rondo, on either the Pacers or Thunder, would be instant finals appearance with a good chance to win it all. You can't tell me Rondo running the point in OKC, moving YNB over to the 2 wouldn't be damn near illegal once the chemistry was built. Same for the Pacers; they need a true starting point.
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I picked a great time to get into basketball apparently.
Anyway I have a few questions if anyone's willing to school me. I need the WHY here so give me some details please.
First if Melo stays how long until the Knicks become a viable team? Like at least makes it to the second round of the playoffs?
How realistic is a Melo equipped Lakers getting Kevin Love?
Who is most likely to get Love? Can the Rockets get him if they have Bosh at 88 mil?
Could the Lakers afford Bryant, Melo, Love, and Pau? Would Pau stay if he has such a significant pay cut to make space? I know the Lakers have cap but they still have to pay Kobe...
If the Cavs get LBJ who else do they get? Kyrie and LBJ isn't really enough for a real run at a ring right? Even with Wiggins.
Why is Chris Bosh not instantly accepting the rockets offer? Wouldn't he be securing a spot on a great team for years AND be getting paid a lot more money? Is one more year with the Heat worth it?
Are the bulls essentially dead in the water? Looks like no Melo so far so how do they get a ring anytime soon without additional offensive power?
Oh yeah and finally how long is a rebuilding phase going to take for the Nets?
Anyway I have a few questions if anyone's willing to school me. I need the WHY here so give me some details please.
First if Melo stays how long until the Knicks become a viable team? Like at least makes it to the second round of the playoffs?
How realistic is a Melo equipped Lakers getting Kevin Love?
Who is most likely to get Love? Can the Rockets get him if they have Bosh at 88 mil?
Could the Lakers afford Bryant, Melo, Love, and Pau? Would Pau stay if he has such a significant pay cut to make space? I know the Lakers have cap but they still have to pay Kobe...
If the Cavs get LBJ who else do they get? Kyrie and LBJ isn't really enough for a real run at a ring right? Even with Wiggins.
Why is Chris Bosh not instantly accepting the rockets offer? Wouldn't he be securing a spot on a great team for years AND be getting paid a lot more money? Is one more year with the Heat worth it?
Are the bulls essentially dead in the water? Looks like no Melo so far so how do they get a ring anytime soon without additional offensive power?
Oh yeah and finally how long is a rebuilding phase going to take for the Nets?
That's seems to be the general consensus in Orlando. We do have a need for a stretch 4. Some people are starting to fall off the Hennigan bandwagon, but they have to realize that Otis Smith essentially tanked this team to the best of his ability, and Dwight finished us off. Hennigan started day one with a bunch of crap contracts and players, and didn't even get a lotto pick his first season.
I'm good with Hennigan's defensive-minded drafting (Oladipo, O'Quinn, Payton, and Gordon). We somehow won the Dwightmare trade with Vucevic being a decent center and Harkless occasionally a serviceable SF. JJ for Tobias Harris turned out pretty well. I question getting peanuts in return for Afflalo and the length of Frye's contract, but that might have been the best we could do.
reggieandTFE
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We might be. The Bulls have basically struck out on all big name free agents since MJ left. Amnestying Boozer, getting a 80% Rose and adding McDermott and Mirotic to a 49-win team in the East could get them up to 58 or 59 wins in the regular season but I'm not seeing them go far in the playoffs.
1) I'd say 2015-2016 season is best case scenario for the Knicks going a few rounds into the playoffs. And that's like absolute best case scenario. Lots of top notch free agents next summer so Phil could land someone and sign complimentary pieces. Otherwise, I'd say 2-3 years at least.
2) Tough to say. If Love gets traded to somewhere he likes in the next few months (like Golden State) people have said he will sign an extension there. So he'll never really spend much time on the market thus minimizing anyone's chances of getting him as a free agent. But I think if Minnesota tries to hold the fort and keep Love this year and he leaves then I could easily see LA + Melo getting him.
3) Still some media guys saying Golden State. That both sides are willing to continue working on a deal into the fall. But that could change at any time. Danny Ainge in Boston also apparently working hard to make something happen. It really depends on how he leaves. Golden State and Boston would be through some sort of trade this year. If Minny keeps him and then he walks next summer it could be anywhere. Not sure about Rockets situation if they had Bosh for that money.
4) I'm somewhat ignorant when it comes to financial stuff, someone else on here smarter than me will have to answer this one.
5) It's a good question. I mean this next year or two you take Miami over what Cleveland has, but after that? Kyrie is already more valuable than Wade and pretty close to Bosh and a teenage Wiggins who has a ceiling somewhere up in space with his potential could look more attractive than Wade as a cripple and Bosh camping for corner 3's. And you have to remember that the East is bad. Real bad. But to be honest, I don't think Lebron leaves Miami in the end. At least not this year.
6) This is a little puzzling to me as well, but it seems like he wants to stay put. I mean think about this: if Miami's big three comes back and Lebron gets the max deal he is demanding, then in the end Bosh and Wade will have taken paycuts as assists for Lebron to make more money. And the team won't be significantly better than last year. I know Bosh really enjoys playing in Miami and living there and I guess he just really really really loves playing with Lebron.
7) Not sure about dead in the water. The east is garbage so it's not like they're going to miss the playoffs, but they'll have to make some kind of move to contend I think. Still quite a few months before the trade deadline, though, so a lot can happen between now and then.
Miami is basically done.
Because ... ?
the guys they bought are not really that great. lebron might stay but he cannot the team for another year.
wades knee is about to fall apart and bosh... i dont know. he is bosh.
i guess lebron will stay for 1 or 2 more years but im not too optimistic about this season.
especially with wades knee.
i dont mind if he comes back and makes me eat a crow though.
darkside31337
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McBuckets! Feel like Thibs is the only guy on the planet who believes in the kid. Bulls fans certainly don't.
Also they kinda need Derrick Rose to actually stay healthy.
And actually sign and bring over Mirotic. Theres still other guys out there - Gasol is still really good, they could bring back Deng. Bulls should say fuck it and go after Lance. Never ever going to happen though.
Swaggy P
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Thanks for some of the answers everyone. How do check who is going to be a free agent next summer btw?
Well no shit, aren't you a Heat fan?
Well, this is a whole lotta nothing.
Maybe let them finish building a team first before judging their future seasons.
I noticed that they signed two players too deals that fit the MLE and BAE exceptions which means they can sign the Big 3 to max extensions if they wanted too. What did you notice?
Judging me for what? I thought this is the Internet. Is this not the internet? I'm sorry. I thought this is the internet!
UnObtainium17
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Idk if we're gonna lose bosh. But if we were, rebounding melo wouldn't be that bad.
Idk if we're gonna lose bosh. But if we were, rebounding melo wouldn't be that bad.
Who is your big?
Heat need defense not scoring.
Idk if we're gonna lose bosh. But if we were, rebounding melo wouldn't be that bad.
Ken Berger details the math that makes this a pipedream: http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/24610979/trying-to-get-melo-math-to-add-up-in-miami
Is LBJ a vodka, tequila, or whiskey man? Can we get Chris Broussard's multiple sources to weigh in here?
CherryWoodFuton
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Judging by LBJ's horrible steak cooking preference, I would say he's a well drinker
UnObtainium17
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I know heat needs a big but who is there left to be signed should CB leave? You can only get those who are available in the market. And it's the east.
noooo
. and Wade at 4/$64mil.. Welp.
Well done steak with ketchup lmao.
EDIT: Another good Zach Lowe article. The Miami Heat and the NBA’s Double Standard of ‘Sacrifice’.
LeBron fan. I think I could be a bigger supporter of the NBA but since I'm from Europe watching games is a lil tough. I started following the Heat when the whole LeBron thing blew up in 2010. From then I followed the Heat.
They'll reup longer and get their money over more years. It usually works out where they get more money than they would have. Less early, but get overpaid later. It's so they can still be on s competitive team. Making money and losing isn't all that fun. Haslem will be part of the organization when he retires. He's just a Heat guy through and through. Nothing underhanded, just respect for all he's given. Tim and So treatment, basically. PEACE.
I thought Philly was planning on tanking next year anyway. Wasn't that the opinion during the draft? PEACE.
friskykillface
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I wonder how many games Wade will miss this season
Could they implement a "play x number of games and get a bonus" type of deal in his contract?
Could they implement a "play x number of games and get a bonus" type of deal in his contract?
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