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2014 NCAA Tournament March Madness |OT|

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Whats with all the hating? I was chanting S-E-C with them tonight. I hate the Big Ten. You can't stop me from making fun of you when you get embarassed on a national level.

For real though, great game. Dayton brought the energy. Officiating seemed terrible both ways from the rafters but all the fans were great.
 

NFreak

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Story of the season. Never seen anything like it. One day we're on the verge of being rated top 10, we're blowing out Michigan, then all of a sudden, we're absolutely woeful. Game after game, we find a way to lose against the bottom of the barrel. How does that happen.

Complete inconsistency and a sorry excuse for a defense. I really don't know what was happening on the defensive end. Just couldn't stop anyone. 5 out of the last 7 losses, we were up or tied at halftime.
 
Deadline for the billion dollar bracket is in 55 minutes(midnight central). Just changed one game(have the same bracket for GAF). Update your picks if you want a billion dollars.
 
hmmm......
yup, might as well go and pick Wichita State to make the Final Four in my bracket, if it works I have a huge edge on everyone else here and if I don't, oh well I probably would've flubbed it anyway (stupid Midwest region)
 

Aesius

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Yeah, they are better than their record I think. Or at least have the potential to be on a good night.

If the Vols can get past UMass, I wouldn't be shocked at all if they trounce Duke.

They would have won by double digits in regulation tonight if they hadn't been playing like deer in headlights during the first 12 minutes of the game.
 
If the Vols can get past UMass, I wouldn't be shocked at all if they trounce Duke.

They would have won by double digits tonight if they hadn't been playing like deer in headlights during the first 12 minutes of the game.

On the flip side, if Iowa didn't choke....
 
I have ISU in my final four, but I feel like winning the big 12 tourney has been the kiss of death lately. Even for teams other than Kansas.
 

alstein

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SLU's PG looks like a linebacker and is pretty fast. He's not much of a shooter though, no one on their team really is, so we can bring a lot of help defense to stop his drives. Honestly, on paper, they don't look very good. Then again neither do we so who knows, they might be secretly awesome. My guess is that K was right and the A-10 is garbage.

St.Louis after reading up on them, they look pretty flawed just like our guys, but neither team's strengths really help against the other- got a feeling it's going to be a weird, awkward game- it's going to come down to how disciplined Warren can be, and if Lewis can handle things defensively (I don't want to see a sick Cat Barber out there any more than I have to)
 
My final four is

Kansas
Iowa st.
Wisconsin
Louisville

Wisconsin winning it all over Kansas.

There is no way this happens.

In the billion dollar bracket I have

Florida
Michigan st
Wisconsin
Duke

Florida over duke in the finals.
 
Finally filled out my bracket. Went almost all chalk for most of it. Lets see if I can not lose a final four team in the first round for once. Went with Florida, Michigan State, Arizona, and Duke in the final four with Florida over Duke for the title.
 
My Facebook feed is pretty much all UVA hype right now, so it's really hard for me to not pick them to upset Michigan St.... (weird, saying a #1 seed winning is an upset over a #4 seed).

I'm also flip-flopping between Wichita St. and Louisville. I picked Louisville to win it all last year and my gut was right...this year my gut can't decide between the two...either way I have that team going to the finals. Ugh.

Right now my final 4 pick is Florida, Iowa St., Creighton, and Louisville...but that might easily change to Wichita St. before tomorrow. Dammit. Can't decide.
 
My Facebook feed is pretty much all UVA hype right now, so it's really hard for me to not pick them to upset Michigan St.... (weird, saying a #1 seed winning is an upset over a #4 seed).

I'm also flip-flopping between Wichita St. and Louisville. I picked Louisville to win it all last year and my gut was right...this year my gut can't decide between the two...either way I have that team going to the finals. Ugh.

Right now my final 4 pick is Florida, Iowa St., Creighton, and Louisville...but that might easily change to Wichita St. before tomorrow. Dammit. Can't decide.

pick Louisville
so that I might stay the only person to pick Wichita State #yolo
 

Cyan

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Whats with all the hating? I was chanting S-E-C with them tonight. I hate the Big Ten. You can't stop me from making fun of you when you get embarassed on a national level.

Which of the 14 SEC teams are you a fan of?

Also: on a scale of 1-10 how much would you say your SECSECSEC chanting is attributable to the War of Northern Aggression?
 
No one on my Facebook seems to give a shit about the tournament because either their teams are not in it (UW, WSU), or they've learned to accept disappointment (Gonzaga).
 

Seth C

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Which of the 14 SEC teams are you a fan of?

Also: on a scale of 1-10 how much would you say your SECSECSEC chanting is attributable to the War of Northern Aggression?

I'd say real close to zero since its not something I heard happening before maybe 7 or 8 years ago. Most Sec fans have always supported each other when playing an outside opponent.

A large number of SEC team fans travel a huge amount for football. So you've got to keep in mind these are trams whose cities you've been visiting for year, and whose fans you barbecue and get drunk with. Why wouldn't you support your friends' team when they are playing someone else? Just makes sense.

But I know, you take great issues with this.
 

Cyan

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its not something I heard happening before maybe 7 or 8 years ago. Most Sec fans have always supported each other when playing an outside opponent.
...these two sentences are kinda contradictory.

A large number of SEC team fans travel a huge amount for football. So you've got to keep in mind these are trams whose cities you've been visiting for year, and whose fans you barbecue and get drunk with. Why wouldn't you support your friends' team when they are playing someone else? Just makes sense.
Same is true for every other conference in football. Why no Pac-102, B1G, Big 12, etc chants? The only ones I've seen are reactionary to the SEC stuff.
 
...these two sentences are kinda contradictory.


Same is true for every other conference in football. Why no Pac-102, B1G, Big 12, etc chants? The only ones I've seen are reactionary to the SEC stuff.

I'm pretty sure those are just taunting with mock SEC chants back (i.e. Oklahoma at the Sugar Bowl just this year)
:p
 

Seth C

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What was bullshit? SEC definitely didn't deserve more than 3 teams in.

I disagree. If Nebraska made it, Missouri was deserving. And if you appreciate improvement over the course of a season Georgia also could have made a case for themselves. There are certainly worse teams than Missouri that got an invite though.

They won every single non-conference game they played, except Illinois, who beat them by a point. That includes wins over West Virginia, UCLA, and NC State. 4 of their losses are to teams in the tournament and 7 were on the road. They have a higher RPI, much higher non-conference RP (19), and higher non-conference strength of schedule than Nebraska. They deserved a shot.
 

Fjordson

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:lol way too much analysis over this SEC chant.

The conference has been seen as shit lately, especially next to other major conferences. Hell, even the Atlantic 10 got twice as many teams into the tourney this year. Some people I know cheer for other SEC teams when they aren't playing against them simply because it makes the conference look less terrible when schools other than Kentucky and Florida do well. Really all it is.
 

Seth C

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...these two sentences are kinda contradictory.


Same is true for every other conference in football. Why no Pac-102, B1G, Big 12, etc chants? The only ones I've seen are reactionary to the SEC stuff.

No they aren't. I said I'd never heard the chant prior. I said I've always known them to support each other. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. Unless you think there exists no other way of showing support?

And you know a lot of Huskies fans that travel down to Los Angeles for the game every year do you? I somehow doubt it. Before the latest expansion, every SEC school an easy weekend trip from each other. 17 hours from Seattle to LA is a bit of a haul. The addition of Missouri and Texas AM has sadly changed that. I doubt there will be many Vandy fans tailgating at Missouri.

Pretending it's a racist southern thing, even suggesting it, is bullshit. Why don't SEC fans support Duke? North Carolina? NC State? Memphis? Georgia Tech? Miami? Florida State? Texas? All southern schools, all equally bastions for racist bigotry, yet no comradere.

But you're right. In the end it's just a mutal hatred of black people that bind them together. That's what you've been repeatedly trying to goad someone into saying for days now, right?

And the war of northern aggression? Seriously? Smarmy isn't becoming of you.
 

Cyan

Banned
Pretending it's a racist southern thing, even suggesting it, is bullshit. Why don't SEC fans support Duke? North Carolina? NC State? Memphis? Georgia Tech? Miami? Florida State? Texas? All southern schools, all equally bastions for racist bigotry, yet no comradere.

But you're right. In the end it's just a mutal hatred of black people that bind them together. That's what you've been repeatedly trying to goad someone into saying for days now, right?

What the fuck is wrong with you?

The southern thing came from you. Complaining about SECSECSEC nonsense is a college sports constant. You couldn't handle it and jumped in with a comment about how it was because everyone was always so mean to the South... thus the joke about the War of Northern Aggression.

Get a grip.
 

Seth C

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What the fuck is wrong with you?

The southern thing came from you. Complaining about SECSECSEC nonsense is a college sports constant. You couldn't handle it and jumped in with a comment about how it was because everyone was always so mean to the South... thus the joke about the War of Northern Aggression.

Get a grip.

I couldn't handle what? People questioning the SEC chant? I'm a Kentucky fan for crying out loud. We've never won enough football games to even have an opportunity to use that chant. Haha. I probably find it as entertaining as you. Certainly doesn't bother me any. I think it's hilarious people get so caught up talking about it really, because I assume at this point it is mostly SEC fans intentionally being trolls, and it seems most people want to keep feeding them.

But, because you specifically asked I was trying to explain to you a possible cause for SEC fans to support each other, in general, which has been the case for me from the time I was a boy. Dad would cheer for Tennessee or Georgia or South Carolina when they weren't playing Kentucky. Any common bond can bind people. That's normal. Even places with lots of things to be proud of do it. New York does it with pizza (they get really worked up and defensive and it isn't even their pizza), Italy with wine (even if their local winery is awful they defend "Italian wine" as a whole), the pacific northwest with weed (even an Albertan will brag about BC bud).

I mentioned the south being derided not because "woe is me" but because it's a simple reality. The south has a poor reputation -- some of it deserved, some not. Still, it's true. Florida should be cut off, Texas should secede, racism, slavery, inbred, hillbillies, rednecks, Jesusland, food stamps, etc. You know the drill. And in the south that net is cast fairly wide. Most of the negative stereotypes aren't confined to a specific state, but rather the broadly painted "south". Jersey is disgusting and Detroit is crime-ridden and Washington is full of potheads, but you rarely hear "the west" used as a negative. "The south" all gets lumped together for the most part and the term itself is often used as a negative. If all the negatives get lumped on tithe south as a whole, people want to share in the positives as well.

When a group of people feel like their area isn't looked upon favorably by a majority of the country, of course they are going to latch on to something they feel brings pride to their area. The less you feel you have to be proud of, the more you're going to try to support the few things you have. In the case of the south, honestly, I think one of the few things most feel they have to show off is success in sports and that probably feeds in to SEC fans supporting each other. They just want to support any success that brings positive publicity to the geographic region they think of as "home". Aside from being one of the few things to be proud of, sports are also just a freakishly big deal across most of the south (in a lot of these places not much else happens). Most of my grandpa's stories, other than the few he told me about the war, involved memories of listening to Cawood Ledford call Kentucky games on the radio. Watching basketball is one of the few things my father and I have in common or do together. For most of the south that's football for them. Some of this, I'm aware, is an indictment of the culture across much of the south.

I also think most SEC fans question why other conferences aren't more supportive of each other. You play these teams 2-3 times a year. If they go and shit the bed it makes everyone in the conference, and every win in the conference, look worse. If they win it just looks better for everyone involved. If I'm going to cheer for someone it might as be the one whose win would make my team look better.

Hope that helps, and go SEC. :)
 
I couldn't handle what? People questioning the SEC chant? I'm a Kentucky fan for crying out loud. We've never won enough football games to even have an opportunity to use that chant. Haha. I probably find it as entertaining as you. Certainly doesn't bother me any. I think it's hilarious people get so caught up talking about it really, because I assume at this point it is mostly SEC fans intentionally being trolls, and it seems most people want to keep feeding them.

But, because you specifically asked I was trying to explain to you a possible cause for SEC fans to support each other, in general, which has been the case for me from the time I was a boy. Dad would cheer for Tennessee or Georgia or South Carolina when they weren't playing Kentucky. Any common bond can bind people. That's normal. Even places with lots of things to be proud of do it. New York does it with pizza (they get really worked up and defensive and it isn't even their pizza), Italy with wine (even if their local winery is awful they defend "Italian wine" as a whole), the pacific northwest with weed (even an Albertan will brag about BC bud).

I mentioned the south being derided not because "woe is me" but because it's a simple reality. The south has a poor reputation -- some of it deserved, some not. Still, it's true. Florida should be cut off, Texas should secede, racism, slavery, inbred, hillbillies, rednecks, Jesusland, food stamps, etc. You know the drill. And in the south that net is cast fairly wide. Most of the negative stereotypes aren't confined to a specific state, but rather the broadly painted "south". Jersey is disgusting and Detroit is crime-ridden and Washington is full of potheads, but you rarely hear "the west" used as a negative. "The south" all gets lumped together for the most part and the term itself is often used as a negative. If all the negatives get lumped on tithe south as a whole, people want to share in the positives as well.

When a group of people feel like their area isn't looked upon favorably by a majority of the country, of course they are going to latch on to something they feel brings pride to their area. The less you feel you have to be proud of, the more you're going to try to support the few things you have. In the case of the south, honestly, I think one of the few things most feel they have to show off is success in sports and that probably feeds in to SEC fans supporting each other. They just want to support any success that brings positive publicity to the geographic region they think of as "home". Aside from being one of the few things to be proud of, sports are also just a freakishly big deal across most of the south (in a lot of these places not much else happens). Most of my grandpa's stories, other than the few he told me about the war, involved memories of listening to Cawood Ledford call Kentucky games on the radio. Watching basketball is one of the few things my father and I have in common or do together. For most of the south that's football for them. Some of this, I'm aware, is an indictment of the culture across much of the south.

I also think most SEC fans question why other conferences aren't more supportive of each other. You play these teams 2-3 times a year. If they go and shit the bed it makes everyone in the conference, and every win in the conference, look worse. If they win it just looks better for everyone involved. If I'm going to cheer for someone it might as be the one whose win would make my team look better.

Hope that helps, and go SEC. :)

Jesus Christ.


This is some Pristine level shit right here.

sorry Pristine, still love ya!
 

alstein

Member
I disagree. If Nebraska made it, Missouri was deserving. And if you appreciate improvement over the course of a season Georgia also could have made a case for themselves. There are certainly worse teams than Missouri that got an invite though.

They won every single non-conference game they played, except Illinois, who beat them by a point. That includes wins over West Virginia, UCLA, and NC State. 4 of their losses are to teams in the tournament and 7 were on the road. They have a higher RPI, much higher non-conference RP (19), and higher non-conference strength of schedule than Nebraska. They deserved a shot.


Missouri had just as much right to be in as NCSU, but so did a half a dozen other schools. I suspect TJ Warren got State in on superstar factor.
 

jjasper

Member
Tennessee, you are good trolls.

Apparently.

Also I just filled out my bracket and figured since the Midwest is a giant clusterfuck and has 5 of the top 15 teams in kenpom in it I might as well go homer on it since it probably really won't hurt me in the end since everyone's picks will be divided.
 

SoupyFlow

Banned
Bracket completed! I really wanted to have my Memphis Tigers getting to the final four, but I know they will only make it past the first round. :(
 
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