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30fps enough for you?

FPS games I much prefer 120fps. Everything else is okay at 60fps, with 40fps on 120hz panel being about the lowest I can stand. 30fps feels bad on OLED TVs.
 
I never complained about 30fps playing on a LCD. It did become a problem when i got my first Oled. 30fps look really choppy on an Oled. When in was still mostly on PS5 i really liked the 40fps option because that looked way better. Now on PC its a different story of course.
 
Yes 30 fps is more than enough. thats why i ditched the consoles and switched to PC as a main.

same reason why i loved both zelda games on the Switch too. i couldnt get enough of that 30 fps love so i stopped playing 1 hour in.

30 fps, no anti-aliasing, frame pacing issues—all the marks of a great game experience. Why else would people buy 5090 if it's not for that?
 
If I play retro sessions on old consoles, yes. For new games, no. It is the first thing I investigate if a game looks interedting, and I have ignored all titles with 30fps for quite some time.
 
If it's the better option (see: FF7 Rebirth being a blurry mess in 60fps mode) then yeah I'll deal with 30fps. It's not a game breaker for me.
 
cinnamonandgravy said:
on pc i need ~80fps+, but on console shit can dip down to 4fps for all i care if the game's good
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console games and PC games are basically the same at this point, so i dont really understand this comment lol. Aside from Nintendo, but even those kinda sucked on Switch 1 when performance got bad.
 
It really does depend on the game, some games it's essential others it's not.
There are even some games I generally don't like the look of at 60fps or higher.
But regardless it has to be stable.
On PC it's a different story, anything below 60fps can look choppy due to the pixel refresh rate of monitos....at least that use to be the problem
And that's the case with Oled too and until they fix it I ain't touching them.
 
I remember not having much of a problem playing Starfield (in first person) and Spider-Man or even Forza Horizon 3 in 30 fps, but these days I'm kind of spoiled on 60fps. Recently bought a new TV so I can play 40fps mode and that is so much better.
 
Not anymore. My eyes have literally adjusted to seeing high framerate on a constant basis so 30fps is so obvious. I will tolerate it if I really have to but given the option I've moved on. Playing TLOU2 for the first time since I played it on PS4 and it's a stunner at 100fps.
 
Nope. It is "enough" only if I have no option and I'll play just enough to enjoy the game and before it starts bothering me more. That happened to me with several Switch games: Xenoblade 3, Zelda TOTK, Kirby ATFL.

I've been waiting for Switch 2 patches to be announced or for all games to run at 60 fps on the console just so I can go further than endgame and do optional stuff, god heard me thankfully because I played those games way before the Switch 2 was announced. I'm still waiting for Xenoblade 3 tho, I won't buy the DLC unless I have an upgrade patch...

And this is not a matter of input lag for me, I just can't stand how choppy 30 fps looks like, to me it's almost stop motion, I know that slow paced games won't have many issues but then the camera movement on Zelda TOTK is completely smooth and more than passable and once Link starts running I can clearly see and even identify individual frames lol

It's a matter of visual appeal to me, smooth movement is pleasing to look at, it's like better shaders, higher quality textures, high resolution, etc. For me it's visual appeal as much or even more than any other graphical setting.
 
For FPS,racing,3rd person shooters,2D side scrolling and some action adventure RPG's... No it isn't and I'll pass if the above examples are 30fps.
 
Not even my technically pretty much illiterate wife likes playing games in quality mode on her PS5, so no, it's not enough, and it never was.
 
Yes. i dont fucking care. you get used to it in 15 minutes if it's well done 30fps with good motion blur and low input lag.
Of coruse it's not a preference if there is 60fps available too
 
As always, my answer will be every time is what year are we in.
If the answer is 2025 if you are accepting 30fps in any title that is a joke.

60fps should always be a base (at least) and these consoles makers and devs need to get onboard.
 
Everything below 120 fps feels a bit compromised these days. Frame gen is ok to achieve 120 fps if need be.

30 fps is... terrible. I don't even want to play anything at that frame rate. Locked 60 minimum as a last ditch compromise.
 
ToneyJ said:
console games and PC games are basically the same at this point, so i dont really understand this comment lol. Aside from Nintendo, but even those kinda sucked on Switch 1 when performance got bad.
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basically on console, youre stuck with whatever performance it has, so you just suck it up and enjoy the game. you get used to it. i mean, most of us lived through the n64/ps1 and x360/ps3 days. framerates got looooooow.
even some situations where slowdown is cool/preferable.

but on my mega-bucks pc with 80 fans and 10000 settings, i set it to 4k then tweak everything else until im happy with the performance. and that aint 30fps.
 
ToneyJ said:
console games and PC games are basically the same at this point, so i dont really understand this comment lol. Aside from Nintendo, but even those kinda sucked on Switch 1 when performance got bad.
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30 fps feels exponentially worse with m+kb.
 
Yeah, for emulated PS1 games.

I have a 144hz monitor and if I can't vsync I turn down the settings.

My TV can go even higher but I don't expect miracles at 4K.
 
New tv turns everything into 120 without noticeable latency, I have to switch of this voodoo sometimes to see if game is actually 30, Crazy tech.
 
What's jarring is if you're playing a 60fps game and change to another game that only has 30fps.
But, like others, after a bit of time you adjust to it.
 
If it's the only option on that device, like the Switch for example, then there's nothing I can do. I will never play a game at 30 FPS on my PC though. I would always prioritize performance.
 
Its like asking a brotha if he will fuck a fat mid chick on a slow tuesday, he obviously will even if later he will have post nut clarity, unless he is one of top dogs and has abundance mindset(aka can fuck different baddie every night).
Every1s preference is 60(or at least stable 40 but thats again only coz of console restrains), i bet u given a choice if some1 has ps5pr0 and topend pc and gta6 comes out same time(or even only 6 months later on pc, but u know it beforehand), lots of those pc guys would happily wait and if not they will 4sure double dip :D

U dont hear about double dipping in a reverse way, aka some1 bought gta5 on pc in 2015, where he could play it on high in stable 1080p60( pretty sure back then u couldnt play game maxed in 4k60, we didnt even had ai upscalers back then :D) and u never think- yeh im gonna double dip and buy inferior 20-25dips version on ps360 or relatively stable 1080p30 on ps4/xbox one(that xbox version had nasty cuts on grass even vs ps4 :P).
 
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It really is getting to the point where I wish the devs would just skip the 30fps mode and give me other options. I hate 30fps. Will I skip a game because of it? Depends on the game.
 
I would be more than fine with it if I still had my old plasma tv that I regret not fixing even though the parts were high because there were few out in the wild left. My oleds just can't handle low framerate like that so 30fps is a pill pretty difficult to swallow.
 
It's fine the majority of the time, as long as its correctly frame paced and has a decent motion blur implementation. Even on Oled. First person games though, or anything that requires a mouse & keyboard, absolutely not.
 
If the game is truly doing something special then yes.

most of all other games, well no, i don't see why it can't be 60 at a lower res and some reconstruction
 
Honestly, yes. You just need to give yourself time to adapt to it. I thought the oblivion remaster looked weird on performance mode, thought fuck it and changed to quality, it seemed choppy for maybe half an hour then I didn't notice it and the game looked much better.
 
30fps is never ever fine imo

Regardless of genre.

It breaks visual immersion by the contstant stuttering and it usually also affects the input response

Of course it looks worse in certain types of games.. but 30fps is bad even in turn based games such as in Advance Wars switch

This is why PC is superior. Even on a lower end rig you can at least lower settings to reach higher fps. GTA6 will be doomed to 30fps on PS5/XBSX - So i will wait for PC
 
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