999 SPOILERS Discussion Thread

Korigama said:
Pretty much referring to the question of Snake's theory.

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9 in place of 3, 0 in place of 6 (which according to Uchikoshi, is apparently still viable in the event of wanting to conclude Santa's number was really 9 and June's was 0, as opposed to 3 = 0 and 6 = 9).

On a different note, it still doesn't make much sense to me that June risked the whole plan from the very beginning by having the 9th Man get blown up, knowing full well it would trigger a fever.
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...yeah, you're right. That's kind of a plot hole.

She put the bomb in the 9th Man because her visions told her to, but him exploding gave her that "things aren't matching up to the visions!"headache.

It was a constant, though, so even when everything works out exactly to her visions, that still went wrong. That didn't make sense.
 
I just finished reading them all, someone get to figuring out that "access error" answer. Where's the people that cracked the Portal 2 ARG when you need them?
 
Hylian7 said:
I just finished reading them all, someone get to figuring out that "access error" answer. Where's the people that cracked the Portal 2 ARG when you need them?
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There's nothing there, it's just filler until the final answer tomorrow.
 
Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
There's nothing there, it's just filler until the final answer tomorrow.
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Oh god, so there's still one more? Has Akselziys confirmed this?

Edit: Hurp derp, I just read the last page.
 
In a number of ways, it feels like there was a disconnect between how the author saw things and how the development team chose to portray them. Case in point...

Q:Why is June such a sadist? She places bombs in the 9th Man and Nagisa Nijisaki.

A:Nagisa Nijisaki is one of the people who killed her in an alternate history... She's the sort of woman who'll do whatever it takes to achieve her goals. Even though she seems like a nice girl, she's always plotting rather cold things. She'd easily kill someone if she needed to. Her personality is a result of what happened to her 9 years before... Perhaps there were things that happened on that ship that couldn't be shown in the actual game.
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By no means do I not appreciate the trouble involved with attempting to answer so many questions, but I felt like I knew all I needed to know by the time I finished the game, and indeed the rest was best left to the imagination.
 
Read THE ANSWERS , some great info in there. Though a couple of them are kind of just swerves and/or non-answers. A bit too much of "that's what she saw so that's why it happened."

I was hoping for more of explanation about Alice & Lotus. I'm not one of the people that had a problem with either of their inclusions, but I would of liked to see them "defended" a bit better.

I'm disappointed by the confirmation that Akane and Aoi's bracelets were not displaying the correct numbers. There was really no reason needed for that, since the outcome would be the exact same if they had real 3 & 6 bracelets, so it just kind of feels like they were cheating. :/

ShockingAlberto said:
...yeah, you're right. That's kind of a plot hole.

She put the bomb in the 9th Man because her visions told her to, but him exploding gave her that "things aren't matching up to the visions!"headache.

It was a constant, though, so even when everything works out exactly to her visions, that still went wrong. That didn't make sense.
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This is also a bit off. I'm mad that I didn't ask about this myself, but I didn't think about it really until after the question deadline had passed. I hope this gets readdressed in the future. Perhaps you could ask him to clarify Akselziys....? *wink, wink, nudge, nudge* :)

But onto the good stuff!

The fact that Akane has a whole "organization" and that they are enacting a larger plan is really intriguing.

Gentarou being a "contestant" in a previous nonary game held by crazy millionaires is crazy. (In a good way.) I like that so much thought was put into the characters's backstories.

I know we've only seen just a little bit of her, but I really want to know more about Nona and her sister. Also, Hazuki is a cool name for Lotus. But he wouldn't think up one for Seven? XD
 
I think the death of the 9th man was a necessary evil to show the cast the results of what happens if you go against Zero's rules.

Had that not happened, someone else may have tried to ignore the rules and if they did and didn't blow up, the game would have fallen apart and Akane would have died in that timeline.
 
Gunloc said:
Read THE ANSWERS , some great info in there. Though a couple of them are kind of just swerves and/or non-answers. A bit too much of "that's what she saw so that's why it happened."
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Well, if his hints about a sequel and there being another part of the master plan are true, it's not surprising if he's avoiding straight answers to certain questions.

Akselziys said:
I think the death of the 9th man was a necessary evil to show the cast the results of what happens if you go against Zero's rules.

Had that not happened, someone else may have tried to ignore the rules and if they did and didn't blow up, the game would have fallen apart and Akane would have died in that timeline.
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I believe what people are saying is that the 9th man dying was necessary to get to the right path that saves Akane, and therefore she shouldn't have gotten a fever.

Then again, that action occurs so early on and there are so many branches at that point where things can go wrong, that perhaps it was just a sign that there was more possible ways that Junpei does not succeed. I dunno, just trying to think of possible explanations.
 
Akselziys said:
I think the death of the 9th man was a necessary evil to show the cast the results of what happens if you go against Zero's rules.

Had that not happened, someone else may have tried to ignore the rules and if they did and didn't blow up, the game would have fallen apart and Akane would have died in that timeline.
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But why did she have a fever then right after? If the fevers are supposed to indicate a deviation from the plan, then the 9th Man dying wasn't part of the grand scheme (at least not in that specific way) and was actually detrimental to closing the paradox.

I know that keeping the sense of danger is crucial for people to connect to the morphogenetic field, but that's the only time she has a fever when you are on the True End path, so that means something was off about it.
 
Gunloc said:
But why did she have a fever then right after? If the fevers are supposed to indicate a deviation from the plan, then the 9th Man dying wasn't part of the grand scheme (at least not in that specific way) and was actually detrimental to closing the paradox.

I know that keeping the sense of danger is crucial for people to connect to the morphogenetic field, but that's the only time she has a fever when you are on the True End path, so that means something was off about it.
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Perhaps that particular path started off wrong, but ultimately the wrong move led to the correct path? Like I mentioned, a necessary evil.

But then again, I'm not Uchikoshi haha
 
Akselziys said:
Perhaps that particular path started off wrong, but ultimately the wrong move led to the correct path? Like I mentioned, a necessary evil.

But then again, I'm not Uchikoshi haha
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Oh, I'm sure some definite course correction was in order. But if a "wrong" move led to the correct path, is it really wrong? If it were necessary, would it trigger a fever?

Just a bit confusing.

Personally, I think that she didn't mean for the 9th Man to die (at least not in that way), and had to make adjustments in order to get things back on track.
 
survivor said:
But I love it
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Speaking of which, is there any website for characters sprite rips like the ones they have for Phoenix Wright?
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can anyone avatar this gif for me?
 
Gunloc said:
Oh, I'm sure some definite course correction was in order. But if a "wrong" move led to the correct path, is it really wrong? If it were necessary, would it trigger a fever?

Just a bit confusing.

Personally, I think that she didn't mean for the 9th Man to die (at least not in that way), and had to make adjustments in order to get things back on track.
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That could also definitely be the case :)

Also, interesting to hear the reactions from everyone :D

Hopefully the Q&A wasn't counter productive haha

I think the answers are pretty great and enlightening myself :3

I wonder what Akane's bigger plan is... ;)
 
Korigama said:
In a number of ways, it feels like there was a disconnect between how the author saw things and how the development team chose to portray them. Case in point...


Q:Why is June such a sadist? She places bombs in the 9th Man and Nagisa Nijisaki.

A:Nagisa Nijisaki is one of the people who killed her in an alternate history... She's the sort of woman who'll do whatever it takes to achieve her goals. Even though she seems like a nice girl, she's always plotting rather cold things. She'd easily kill someone if she needed to. Her personality is a result of what happened to her 9 years before... Perhaps there were things that happened on that ship that couldn't be shown in the actual game.
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I think the final line there is actually hinting at something much, much darker happening to June during her kidnapping.
 
Also, Akane and Junpei are a canon couple and her feelings were genuine, but she's too ashamed to face everyone, which is why she won't reunite with them.

But that won't stop Junpei to chase after her ;)

And of course, she has a larger plan in store, this was merely the prologue if you will :3
 
jaxword said:
I think the final line there is actually hinting at something much, much darker happening to June during her kidnapping.
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A possibility, but it doesn't make much sense for something that important not to even be hinted at in-game (in the narration or otherwise).
 
Korigama said:
A possibility, but it doesn't make much sense for something that important not to even be hinted at (in the narration or otherwise).
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It's still very likely that part of the backstory was well-developed during pre-production - the whole "what happened in the previous Nonary Game" is big enough to warrant that. Having worked on several game projects myself, there's a lot of extra concepts and designs that never make its way to the end product. Not having something hinted at doesn't necessarily indicate it was never planned for.
 
Korigama said:
A possibility, but it doesn't make much sense for something that important not to even be hinted at in-game (in the narration or otherwise).
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No, I mean, the subject matter may have been too inappropriate for the game.
 
Akselziys said:
Also, Akane and Junpei are a canon couple and her feelings were genuine, but she's too ashamed to face everyone, which is why she won't reunite with them.

But that won't stop Junpei to chase after her ;)

And of course, she has a larger plan in store, this was merely the prologue if you will :3
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It's funny, even though I love the game, I wasn't sure how a sequel would work with the same group of characters.

But now with all the info about Akane's larger plan, her "organization" and the fact that Junpei is now fated to eternally chase after her, a lot more possibilities spring to mind. ^_^
 
XiaNaphryz said:
It's still very likely that part of the backstory was well-developed during pre-production - the whole "what happened in the previous Nonary Game" is big enough to warrant that. Having worked on several game projects myself, there's a lot of extra concepts and designs that never make its way to the end product. Not having something hinted at doesn't necessarily indicate it was never planned for.
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There are also some unused art assets showing the millionaires that were in on things with Gordain, gambling and watching the games play out on the ship :x


Gunloc said:
It's funny, even though I love the game, I wasn't sure how a sequel would work with the same group of characters.

But now with all the info about Akane's larger plan, her "organization" and the fact that Junpei is now fated to eternally chase after her, a lot more possibilities spring to mind. ^_^
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Well, chasing her for the rest of his life doesn't mean they don't ever unite. They may eventually unite, settle down for a few years, have a kid, and then she might flee again. Causing Junpei and said child to chase after her ;D

Lots of scenarios spring to mind lol
 
Akselziys said:
There are also some unused art assets showing the millionaires that were in on things with Gordain, gambling and watching the games play out on the ship :x




Well, chasing her for the rest of his life doesn't mean they don't ever unite. They may eventually unite, settle down for a few years, have a kid, and then she might flee again. Causing Junpei and said child to chase after her ;D

Lots of scenarios spring to mind lol
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jaxword said:
No, I mean, the subject matter may have been too inappropriate for the game.
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I understand what you're implying, but being aware of something so traumatic having occurred (by no means going into graphic detail, something I could certainly do without) would've been quite important to understanding how such a darker change in worldview came about, beyond what was already presented to us. If anything, the revelation of just how cold and calculating she really was would've been far less jarring with backstory such as that to go on.
 
vall03 said:
why cant I visit the site?! Im using 4 different browsers already! I want to read the answers!
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It should bring you the 999 front page and then you click the "Answers" tab on the lower right.
 
Damn 74 questions, no wonder it took so long to get these up. I loved it all and its so damn cool that all these questions were answered and were so in depth. Thanks to everyone who helped get this done for the fans. Also yay for Lotus and Seven being canon and for her breasts being 100 percent real!

And sorry but I'd just like to ask this once more. Akselziys is it possible to post the CG of Seven, Junpei, Snake, Lotus, and Clover as they step outside at the end of the game?
 
devastatorprime said:
Damn 74 questions, no wonder it took so long to get these up. I loved it all and its so damn cool that all these questions were answered and were so in depth. Thanks to everyone who helped get this done for the fans. Also yay for Lotus and Seven being canon and for her breasts being 100 percent real!

And sorry but I'd just like to ask this once more. Akselziys is it possible to post the CG of Seven, Junpei, Snake, Lotus, and Clover as they step outside at the end of the game?
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Not to worry :)
 
Akselziys said:
It should bring you the 999 front page and then you click the "Answers" tab on the lower right.
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For some people, going to the 999 site redirects them to the Aksys front page. I haven't seen any issues myself on Firefox on 2 different computers, but then I tried going there on my wife's laptop and saw the issue despite it having the same browser version as the others.
 
XiaNaphryz said:
For some people, going to the 999 site redirects them to the Aksys front page. I haven't seen any issues myself on Firefox on 2 different computers, but then I tried going there on my wife's laptop and saw the issue despite it having the same browser version as the others.
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Hmm... We'll try looking into that tomorrow :)
 
Gunloc said:
But now with all the info about Akane's larger plan, her "organization" and the fact that Junpei is now fated to eternally chase after her, a lot more possibilities spring to mind. ^_^
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Just sayin'.

XiaNaphryz said:
For some people, going to the 999 site redirects them to the Aksys front page. I haven't seen any issues myself on Firefox on 2 different computers, but then I tried going there on my wife's laptop and saw the issue despite it having the same browser version as the others.
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Maybe try clearing her cache?
In her browser. ...Didn't mean for that to sound naughty. When I was updating the site, I had to tool around about with the .htaccess file to try and prevent prying eyes while it was being updated. I could also be the cookie/session that it uses to remember your age. Clearing your cache and cookies/etc for aksysgames.com should fix any problems. :/
 
Korigama said:
Pretty much referring to the question of Snake's theory.

129450789

9 in place of 3, 0 in place of 6 (which according to Uchikoshi, is apparently still viable in the event of wanting to conclude Santa's number was really 9 and June's was 0, as opposed to 3 = 0 and 6 = 9).

On a different note, it still doesn't make much sense to me that June risked the whole plan from the very beginning by having the 9th Man get blown up, knowing full well it would trigger a fever.
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Also:

1 + 2 + 9 + 4 + 5 + 0 + 7 + 8 + 9 = 45
4 + 5 = 9

:P
 
AWESOME, gonna post direct link to OP and read through them. Will join the discussion after i've absorbed it all. :D
 
Feep said:
I don't know how serious that "chasing Akane forever" answer was. = P
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But it's a perfect way to ensure a running franchise series!

Someone do a 999 mod for Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego.

Extra points if you involved Where in Time while you're at it.
 
Akselziys said:
It should bring you the 999 front page and then you click the "Answers" tab on the lower right.
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sorry, just had a problem with my ISP so I switched to my other which is weird that I cant access it.

Anyway, just read all the answers and Im still mind-blown! disappointed that he didnt completely answer question 70... Clover... lol

Also hoping for a sequel!
 
hosannainexcelsis said:
He seemed to be sticking to that line in several of the other answers as well, but who knows what could happen in a sequel?
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Considering she and her brother are now heads of some secret organization, this can easily be the start of some larger storyline.

Someone access the morphogenetic field and find a timeline where the franchise explodes as big as the Gyakuten Saiban stuff and they make 4 more of these games. :(
 
LiK said:
hahaha, Clover dies in the Axe ending as well. i love his response: "She kind of had it coming" XD
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I was hoping for some showdown between her and Ace. But knowing Ace, he probably stabbed her in the back. That bastard.

Or she just burned to death but I don't want to imagine that happening to Clover.
 
HE COMPARED HIS CHARACTERS TO STAR WARS CHARACTERS. This man can do no wrong~ :3

and he confirmed that it was indeed the power of LOVE that saved them, hee hee

Question 70's answer is the BEST!
 
Feep said:
I don't know how serious that "chasing Akane forever" answer was. = P
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Yeah, it just kind of came off as a joke to me since the ending was pretty happy. It's like putting at the end of the credits of some happy movie "and then they all died".

Of course seeing how evil he makes Akane out to be, it might not be a joke.
 
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