Parazels
Member
Your approach might look good on paper, but by that logic, the iPhone should have failed - especially the first models.
A much better idea than PCs that mimic consoles.
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Geometric-Crusher
"Nintendo games are like indies, and worth at most $19" 🤡
Almost.
But that kb/m would come in the package, and the controller too. The bridge between these two markets would be the games; Sega tried with PSO, while my idea includes moba and rts games with AAA budget, next gen graphics. Who knows, maybe on the Dreamcast 2.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
PC players don't want all the limitation of a console, colleague. So the less consoles in the market, the better.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Your plan is just a console with more power to play some demanding strategy games?!?
Consoles already has access to some strategy games and have KB&M support.
Strategy games are not always low budget. Look at the Total War series for example.
This is extreme shit posting. I'm not even sure why I bothered replying.
Radical_3d
Member
Sangría, what happened with your nick?
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Ftfy.
Not way more, just more and still runs worse 99,99% of the time. Most UE5 games also stutter on PS5 but on PC you can brute force and tweak them to make it better. 
Not all new effects like path tracing, 16x AF (lol), DLAA, DLSS quality, HBAO+, MSAA, SSAA...
Same way everyone that plays does. Lapboards and stuff like that.
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Geometric-Crusher
"Nintendo games are like indies, and worth at most $19" 🤡
No. It's the development of strategy games featuring cutting-edge graphics, never seen before to attract fans of the genre to buy this theoretical console.
This is a better move than saturating the PC with controller-based games. One move leads to a loss of the PC's identity, while the other leads to its recovery. I played a lot on PC and I liked the time when they were different from consoles in terms of exclusive games.
Laptop1991
Member
It's a PC in specs and software and more open than Xbox and Playstation, but it's aimed at the Console space and user, TV and couch, i've just bought a new desk and chair, i wouldn't stick the Steambox on my desk, there would be a lot of room for other stuff, i'm not against it though, i'm looking forward to seeing how popular it becomes.
El Hee-Ho
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
La Casera sent their ninjas to go after my ass.
Nah just trying to keep this account separated from other places. I might reverse it next month lol, not sure about this new nickname.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
So a powerful console that does path tracing at 60fps, meaning $1000+...
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
How much more cutting edge do you want besides what games like Total War are offering?
Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
Lets see
Gamecube had many game at 60 fps. And since 2020 many console games have 120 fps. 120 Hz monitors and TV became norm post 2020, so before 2020 120 fps was useless.
Sega Meganet - Wikipedia
Not much of a head start. RTX cards were introduced first in 2018 and most games did not even use Ray Tracing until they was introduced in PS5 in 2020.
Since 2001 PS2 allowed you to add hard drives.
Also Hard Drives predate personal computers.
Virtual Boy
Also the oldest VR device predates PCs.
The Sword of Damocles (virtual reality) - Wikipedia
Since 2008 in DSi. Ultimate consoles are for playing games. There is no need for a webcam.
tanners
Member
And that's why Android exists
There's lot ppl don't like walled garden approach
cireza
Member
Nintendo data shows that controllers are the dominant input.
Selling a console, two docks, a mouse, a keyboard, a controller and everyone will be happy ? How exactly do you make all of this stuff affordable ? And I am not buying a mouse and keyboard period.
Your logic is so broken we should call you Common Sense Crusher.
Majima Everywhere System
Member
People have been trained to put up with janky experiences with modern TV OSs and the internet having privacy popups, I think it will unlock the pc market.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Lets see
Gamecube had many game at 60 fps. And since 2020 many console games have 120 fps. 120 Hz monitors and TV became norm post 2020, so before 2020 120 fps was useless.
Sega Meganet - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Not much of a head start. RTX cards were introduced first in 2018 and most games did not even use Ray Tracing until they was introduced in PS5 in 2020.
Since 2001 PS2 allowed you to add hard drives.
Also Hard Drives predate personal computers.
Virtual Boy
Also the oldest VR device predates PCs.
The Sword of Damocles (virtual reality) - Wikipedia
Since 2008 in DSi. Ultimate consoles are for playing games. There is no need for a webcam.
120Hz was useless before 2020?
what planet do you come from?
The sword of democles...created by a COMPUTER engineer.
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Radical_3d
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Unique scenario where someone is after your ass.La Casera sent their ninjas to go after my ass.
Time to stalk
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Geometric-Crusher
"Nintendo games are like indies, and worth at most $19" 🤡
The Nintendo Switch is a console.
The hypothetical product in this topic is a console-PC with the goal of attracting PC players to consoles, a move opposite to that of the Steam Machiner ; therefore, I need to include a keyboard and mouse in the packaging so the user can play sitting down, using a monitor and a table if they want, and a controller so they can play in the living room. There's simply no way to combine both experiences; two are necessary.
To make this console viable, it would obviously have to be slightly inferior to, say, the PS6. It's perfect, but it would need to be produced by a company capable of making exclusive games essentially on its own.
cireza
Member
You won't attract PC gamers because it will be an inferior experience to what they already have.
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Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
I meant 120 Hz TVs and monitors becoming norm. By 2019-20 2K 144 Hz monitors came down to below 1000 $ range.
You said PC. Personal Computers. Personal Computers did not exist back then.
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Ellis
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I'm probably a PC player more than I am consoles these days, but I absolutely no longer wish to play anything with a K&M today.
We're at a point where even once traditional M&K games are better experienced with a controller. Diablo 2 Remake is a good example. That game plays so much better with a controller.
For the older classic games I wish to revisit, I wait for a studio like Nightdive to pick up the license and implement controller support in their release.
The benefits of M&K today are so rare outside of competitive FPS games.
We're at a point where even once traditional M&K games are better experienced with a controller. Diablo 2 Remake is a good example. That game plays so much better with a controller.
For the older classic games I wish to revisit, I wait for a studio like Nightdive to pick up the license and implement controller support in their release.
The benefits of M&K today are so rare outside of competitive FPS games.
TVs ya with HDMI 2.1. Monitors 120Hz was around for far longer. Late 90s I had a CRT that did 120Hz.
Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
CRTs tech was different. I meant modern PC monitors.
Donald mac Ronald
Member
Im not sure what people keep thinking the wheel needs reinventing. It doesnt.
MrJangles
Member
Yep. I skipped the PS360 gen. When I bought a PS4 I was pretty shocked at the setup options, signing into this and that, installing games to hard drives, firmware updates, game patches, online functionality, streaming, etc. I can only assume the current Playstation and Xbox consoles have expanded upon the above.
Consoles are basically simplified PC's.
