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[delishcaek]

I look at Ghost of Tsushima on PC and compare it to PS5 (where I played it back then) and I wish I had waited. The draw distance for grass and shadows on PC are much higher, so much so that it increases immersion when overlooking vast grassy fields.

What's really annoying here is that PS5 could handle ultra settings. It would need a 30fps cap and a reduction from 4k to 1080-1440p (some DRS magic), but base PS5 could run this game at max settings. PS5 Pro could push 60 (or at least 40fps) at ultra settings... but for some reason Sucker Punch never gave people a graphics mode, so you are left with low grass density at a distance.

 

[Gaiff]

Damn, guess the PS5 is not really that much of an upgrade over the PS4 Pro.

What's that? Me, cherry-picking screenshots? No way, I'd never do that.

Gotta love the hypocrisy. That's from rofif

FF7 rebirth also but it's 30fps mode lacked motion blur and kinda sucked. and they fucked the performance mode.

Admits they fucked up the performance mode, but then pretends it's the same on a high-end PC.

 

[rofif]

Damn, guess the PS5 is not really that much of an upgrade over the PS4 Pro.

What's that? Me, cherry-picking screenshots? No way, I'd never do that.

you posted small screenshots, capped from a yt video.
I posted 4k screenshots. Both from the same ps5 because I made a joke.
But as always. Depends on the dev.
On topic - if someone plays ps5 pro pssr 60 or more fps game... like Stellar Blade....
And that person can't enjoy the game and appreciate it because he plays on 700$... surely the 5 more better looking dlss transformer model pixels is going to change his mind.... right.... sure....
I want to remind that there is no longer a difference. We get 4k and upscaling everywhere. it all looks amazing.
And in order to get outliers like Silent Hill 2 to look better on pc, you need a serious hardware. And even then, I am not sure if the difference is worth it.

rodrigolfp gets the idea!
Gaiff these are both ps5 quality mode shots. I don't have pssr screenshots. And you are right. sucked ass because no motion blur. Still perfectly playable. I put 70 hours into it and it looked way better and in motion too compared to alan wake 2... even without motion blur. Anyway - it was a joke.
Stellar blade shots are not. I can't imagine how much better pc version will have to look and run in order for me to spend few thousands more

 

[DenchDeckard]

My mate showed me ff7 rebirth in performance mode on his ps5.....

...we then came around to my house and I showed him it on my pc. He actually went red and couldn't believe the difference.

Im pretty much running 90 to 120 fps as well.

Either could I. I think thatd the best thing to show the difference between a ps5 and high end PC.

Or Alan Wake 2 and many more titles. Infact more or less every single title.

 

[Zathalus]

you posted small screenshots, capped from a yt video.
I posted 4k screenshots. Both from the same ps5 because I made a joke.
But as always. Depends on the dev.
On topic - if someone plays ps5 pro pssr 60 or more fps game... like Stellar Blade....
And that person can't enjoy the game and appreciate it because he plays on 700$... surely the 5 more better looking dlss transformer model pixels is going to change his mind.... right.... sure....
I want to remind that there is no longer a difference. We get 4k and upscaling everywhere. it all looks amazing.
And in order to get outliers like Silent Hill 2 to look better on pc, you need a serious hardware. And even then, I am not sure if the difference is worth it.

rodrigolfp gets the idea!
Gaiff these are both ps5 quality mode shots. I don't have pssr screenshots. And you are right. sucked ass because no motion blur. Still perfectly playable. I put 70 hours into it and it looked way better and in motion too compared to alan wake 2... even without motion blur. Anyway - it was a joke.
Stellar blade shots are not. I can't imagine how much better pc version will have to look and run in order for me to spend few thousands more

I built a friend of my a PC a few months back, it was €1500 in total. 7700x, 32GB RAM, 4070 Super. In addition he got a 1440p 240hz, OLED monitor. You don't need to spend thousands of euros to get a better visual experience or performance compared to a console.

For myself, I recently played Hogwarts Legacy on the Pro, and while it was fine it is visually not the match for the PC version with the new RT updates and DLSS 4.

 

[Nex240]

PC:

ps5:

idk guys. GOTTA ZOOM IN to see which one is worth 5300$ more dollars

Wasn't Rebirth kinda the game to justify the $699 US Pro because it had better upscaling?

 

[rofif]

Wasn't Rebirth kinda the game to justify the $699 US Pro because it had better upscaling?

yeah but we are still talking about a console here.
On ps5 base, it had 4k30 and 1080p60. 2 modes.
On ps5 pro it adds essentially 4k60. Great. For me that's justifying upgrading to pro. But if pro was 4000$ and that was the only difference? nah man. nah

 

[rodrigolfp]

My mate showed me ff7 rebirth in performance mode on his ps5.....

...we then came around to my house and I showed him it on my pc. He actually went red and couldn't believe the difference.

Im pretty much running 90 to 120 fps as well.

Either could I. I think thatd the best thing to show the difference between a ps5 and high end PC.

Or Alan Wake 2 and many more titles. Infact more or less every single title.

 

[Js562]

Yeah if you want customized experience. Graphics wise it will always look better on pc that's the way it is. I play on consoles but that doesn't change my opinion. Gameplay wise it'll play the same just no added options. We going from a base BMW to a fully loaded BMW M version. Drives the same but crafted for the driver

 

[rofif]

I built a friend of my a PC a few months back, it was €1500 in total. 7700x, 32GB RAM, 4070 Super. In addition he got a 1440p 240hz, OLED monitor. You don't need to spend thousands of euros to get a better visual experience or performance compared to a console.

For myself, I recently played Hogwarts Legacy on the Pro, and while it was fine it is visually not the match for the PC version with the new RT updates and DLSS 4.

Bravo. he build a ps5 pro specs rig for 1500 euro (debatable but OK depending on his region).
So what he achieved? hogwarts stutters on his pc like shit. it stutters on every pc.
4070 super is very close to ps5 pro performance (at least according to df)... and that's close to 3080 performance. I confirm.
For me, pc is worth going for, if you got a lot of cash to spend. Make the difference big and worth it. Spending 2 or 3 times more for a bit better or comparable result does not do it for me.
It's spending money into diminishing returns.

and in reality - nobody only got a ps5. Everyone got some kind of pc to play it's exclusives etc

 

[rofif]

Couldn't pick a more triggering joke for me.
It's a mod by vosswar. This one. he got AMAZING videos.


I tried it. It never looks right, sucks the soul out of gta 4 and the lighting only fits 1 scene at a time. And it ran like shit.
For a long time, xbox 360 version of gta 4 was the best one. I played hours and hours oc pc version, modded it to hell and I never could get it to look "proper" like on xbox 360.
So it's a fun curiostiy but not a real example

 

[MacReady13]

Ultrawide on consoles? In how many games, 1? I can only think of Death Stranding Director's Cut.

Point being, does it make or break a game? Vast majority of people who play on consoles play from their TV's. I would dare say a tiny amount play on ultra wide monitors. And if that is a reason to favour PC over consoles, excellent stuff.

 

[MacReady13]

Damn, guess the PS5 is not really that much of an upgrade over the PS4 Pro.

What is the price difference between a PS4 pro, PS5 and a gaming PC?

 

[Zathalus]

What is the price difference between a PS4 pro, PS5 and a gaming PC?

You do realize that was posted in jest to make fun of cherry-picking screenshots? But as to the question, the current prices of the PS4 Pro, and PS5 are well known, as for a gaming PC it can range from $500-$5000 depending on what you want.

 

[Gaiff]

Bravo. he build a ps5 pro specs rig for 1500 euro (debatable but OK depending on his region).
So what he achieved? hogwarts stutters on his pc like shit. it stutters on every pc.
4070 super is very close to ps5 pro performance (at least according to df)... and that's close to 3080 performance. I confirm.
For me, pc is worth going for, if you got a lot of cash to spend. Make the difference big and worth it. Spending 2 or 3 times more for a bit better or comparable result does not do it for me.
It's spending money into diminishing returns.

and in reality - nobody only got a ps5. Everyone got some kind of pc to play it's exclusives etc

The 4070S is 30% faster than the Pro's GPU. I wouldn't call that close. Even the regular 4070 is faster.

 

[Det]

The 4070S is 30% faster than the Pro's GPU. I wouldn't call that close. Even the regular 4070 is faster.

In this type of comparison, for me, the perception of difference is very important.
30% more FPS counting FPS is one thing, noticing 30% better is another thing.

I used to play on PC when you could play "4x" better than on Console, something like double the graphics quality and double the FPS.
Today, a 30% difference is imperceptible to me.

In the PS2 and PS3 generations, you could play "4x better" on PC; double the graphics and double the FPS.

In the PS4 generation, for me, the improvement dropped to "2x better". The same graphics with double the FPS.

Now, for me, the difference is around "1.5x" at most; and it's no longer worth the effort and the problems with stutter, for example.

 

[Gaiff]

In this type of comparison, for me, the perception of difference is very important.
30% more FPS counting FPS is one thing, noticing 30% better is another thing.

I used to play on PC when you could play "4x" better than on Console, something like double the graphics quality and double the FPS.
Today, a 30% difference is imperceptible to me.

In the PS2 and PS3 generations, you could play "4x better" on PC; double the graphics and double the FPS.

In the PS4 generation, for me, the improvement dropped to "2x better". The same graphics with double the FPS.

Now, for me, the difference is around "1.5x" at most; and it's no longer worth the effort and the problems with stutter, for example.

 

[Zathalus]

Bravo. he build a ps5 pro specs rig for 1500 euro (debatable but OK depending on his region).
So what he achieved? hogwarts stutters on his pc like shit. it stutters on every pc.
4070 super is very close to ps5 pro performance (at least according to df)... and that's close to 3080 performance. I confirm.
For me, pc is worth going for, if you got a lot of cash to spend. Make the difference big and worth it. Spending 2 or 3 times more for a bit better or comparable result does not do it for me.
It's spending money into diminishing returns.

and in reality - nobody only got a ps5. Everyone got some kind of pc to play it's exclusives etc

He achieved building a PC that is significantly faster than the Pro, with much better upscaling and RT performance as well. Using the Hogwarts Legacy example, he can enable DLSS 4 quality on his 1440p monitor, enable ray reconstruction with the new RT effects, and get a far more pleasing image than the Pro version.

Also, Hogwarts Legacy doesn't stutter like shit on PC anymore, all you really need is to cap the FPS with Rivatuner, optionally you can install the Ascendio mod, but with the FPS cap in place it is not really needed.

But I mentioned it as you keep repeating you need to spend "thousands" on PC gaming, which is simply not true.

 

[Hohenheim]

Saying console gaming is better than a solid PC rig feels strange (to me).
A solid PC in the high/ top range is the way to experience games in all the glory, obviously.
Consoles are "easier" though. Maybe that makes them "better" for some folks, and there's nothing wrong with that.

For couch co-up, the PS5 Pro is great. Enjoying Split Fiction with my gf at the moment, and it's great! But it's mostly a very fancy box for streaming apps like Netflix for me.
And playing the few games that doesn't get a PC release day 1
(Very ready for Death Stranding 2!)

 

[rofif]

He achieved building a PC that is significantly faster than the Pro, with much better upscaling and RT performance as well. He can enable DLSS 4 quality on his 1440p monitor, enable ray reconstruction with the new RT effects, and get a far more pleasing image than the Pro version.

Also, Hogwarts Legacy doesn't stutter like shit on PC anymore, all you really need is to cap the FPS with Rivatuner, optionally you can install the Ascendio mod, but with the FPS cap in place it is not really needed.

But I mentioned it as you keep repeating you need to spend "thousands" on PC gaming, which is simply not true.

I know I know.
My pc would probably be about that much too nowadays. 5700x3d, 3080 10gb, 32gb ram. his pc with 4070 super is essentially my pc on steroids.

 

[adamsapple]

Ultrawide on consoles? In how many games, 1? I can only think of Death Stranding Director's Cut.

Hellblade 2, baby.

The GOAT visual experience on console.

 

[Topher]

Hellblade 2, baby.

The GOAT visual experience on console.

Eh....maybe animations but overall....nah.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Hellblade 2, baby.

The GOAT visual experience on console.

"dynamic 2560x1070p with an average res of around 2304x963p"

Nah.

 

[adamsapple]

"dynamic 2560x1070p with an average res of around 2304x963p"

Nah.

It's not the count that matters, it's how you use it.

 

[kiphalfton]

Without even watching the video, I'm going to answer "yes".
But not even because of the "high end" part.

PC is better because of configurability and control, which you don't have on console.

Went back and forth, but I'd say no.

High end is a ripoff. Mid-tier stuff is also a ripoff.

If you are fine playing games that are a couple years old and/or lowering the settings, something <$500 is not too bad experience wise (it's still a ripoff this and last gen with Nvidia stuff).

 

[PaintTinJr]

I would say that lots of us have complained that the gen has struggled to get started, and nothing running better on PC has changed the lackluster sentiment about all those same games.

Only recently with the DS2 trailer has anything really stood out graphically and that is mostly by scale, as even the original base PS4 game is a looker that doesn't look poor on a decent TV compared to the new DS2 trailer visuals because of diminishing returns, and despite lots of PC gamers here wanting to suggest console gamers are in denial - when saying the delta is small - it is completely consistent with how underwhelmed lots of us have been this gen with PS4 -> PS5 graphics - which is a much, much bigger delta than a PS5 or PS5 Pro to AMD 9800X3D/RTX5090 PC efforts.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

For a long time, xbox 360 version of gta 4 was the best one. I played hours and hours oc pc version, modded it to hell and I never could get it to look "proper" like on xbox 360.

theres something about the x360 version that still makes it the best version to me

 

[bender]

Couldn't pick a more triggering joke for me.
It's a mod by vosswar. This one. he got AMAZING videos.


I tried it. It never looks right, sucks the soul out of gta 4 and the lighting only fits 1 scene at a time. And it ran like shit.
For a long time, xbox 360 version of gta 4 was the best one. I played hours and hours oc pc version, modded it to hell and I never could get it to look "proper" like on xbox 360.
So it's a fun curiostiy but not a real example

The juxtaposition of the character models and the environments looks atrocious.

 

[Cynexius]

Sony applies their world-renowned premium-level color science (present in their cameras and TV's) to the PS5. That's why, side-by-side, in real-life, PC games have a slight dullness and color incongruity when compared to the more vibrant/lushness/contrasty visuals of the PS5. I would take the PS5 Pro, all-day, everyday, with it's incredible color science over an RTX 5090-equipped PC that can give a resolution bump or some extra fps. It is of my persona opinion that connecting a PS5 Pro console to a large premium-quality QD-OLED TV offers the absolute best gaming experience you can get today.

 

[OverHeat]

Sony applies their world-renowned premium-level color science (present in their cameras and TV's) to the PS5. That's why, side-by-side, in real-life, PC games have a slight dullness and color incongruity when compared to the more vibrant/lushness/contrasty visuals of the PS5. I would take the PS5 Pro, all-day, everyday, with it's incredible color science over an RTX 5090-equipped PC that can give a resolution bump or some extra fps. It is of my persona opinion that connecting a PS5 Pro console to a large premium-quality QD-OLED TV offers the absolute best gaming experience you can get today.

WTF did I just read

 

[Buggy Loop]

Sony applies their world-renowned premium-level color science (present in their cameras and TV's) to the PS5. That's why, side-by-side, in real-life, PC games have a slight dullness and color incongruity when compared to the more vibrant/lushness/contrasty visuals of the PS5. I would take the PS5 Pro, all-day, everyday, with it's incredible color science over an RTX 5090-equipped PC that can give a resolution bump or some extra fps. It is of my persona opinion that connecting a PS5 Pro console to a large premium-quality QD-OLED TV offers the absolute best gaming experience you can get today.

A new copy pasta?

 

[Gaiff]

Sony applies their world-renowned premium-level color science (present in their cameras and TV's) to the PS5. That's why, side-by-side, in real-life, PC games have a slight dullness and color incongruity when compared to the more vibrant/lushness/contrasty visuals of the PS5. I would take the PS5 Pro, all-day, everyday, with it's incredible color science over an RTX 5090-equipped PC that can give a resolution bump or some extra fps. It is of my persona opinion that connecting a PS5 Pro console to a large premium-quality QD-OLED TV offers the absolute best gaming experience you can get today.

I'm definitely stealing this.

 

[Topher]

Sony applies their world-renowned premium-level color science (present in their cameras and TV's) to the PS5. That's why, side-by-side, in real-life, PC games have a slight dullness and color incongruity when compared to the more vibrant/lushness/contrasty visuals of the PS5. I would take the PS5 Pro, all-day, everyday, with it's incredible color science over an RTX 5090-equipped PC that can give a resolution bump or some extra fps. It is of my persona opinion that connecting a PS5 Pro console to a large premium-quality QD-OLED TV offers the absolute best gaming experience you can get today.

 

[Astray]

A high-end PC can certainly outdo a console in a lot of ways, and when a PC works, it's great, especially with Steam.

But when it doesn't, my god are you gonna fucking hate yourself and your PC.. Especially if A) Your game is niche or B) Your issue is unique or C) You somehow fall into both categories at once.

Google-Fu won't help you out there in all 3 cases, and even a refund (assuming you're eligible for one) won't pay you back for the time you spent trying to figure out why your game won't work the way it's supposed to.

It's strange that a repair shop receive so many faulty cards while most of us don't have any issues

A repair shop is predisposed to get faulty cards, no one is gonna send in a good card with no issues.

Also consider that the youtube channel is an advertisement for the shop, people know about him through the channel and that's why they think of him first as soon as something breaks.

To be serious, I saw GN estimated a 0.05% to 0.1% connector fault rate. Just to put some perspective to it.

GN has no clue what the actual connector fault rate is. They wouldn't have the failure RMA rates or even the total sales of the cards to all channels.

Honestly speaking, my gaming life improved immensely when I stopped watching channels like DF or GN, these channels tend to always want to work you up over something. If I'm ever interested in a game that DF covers then I'll just read adamsapple 's summaries and get the gist of it in minutes.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

I knew I would see this dumb fucking video pop up when I saw it got posted on YouTube.

It's all subjective. Warriors will fight on both side, but ultimately it comes down to the individual and the types of games said individual plays.

People buying PS5 pro while downplaying advantages of pc will never not be funny

Whether PCMR retards want to believe it or not, there are more things then just power that make people choose one platform over the other.

 

[CLW]

$7000 for Jensen to get another bedazzled feaux leather jacket

 

[bender]

WTF did I just read

$10 says he's Canadian.

 

[Three]

For anybody still struggling to see it from somebody elses point of view maybe consider something that you're just not that bothered by to see where others are coming from.

A good example of that is somebody who is an audiophile. They would bang on about some $1000 B&O speakers and how the frequency response is so much better and how you're deaf if you can't hear the difference. They'd fiddle around with outputs and use about 5 remotes to turn everything on and tweak the equaliser and other settings to play you Wonderwall. Then on the other side you've got the guy who says "alexa play wonderwall" on their $80 speaker and enjoys the music regardless of all that. That's essentially what this is in a nutshell without the fanboy affiliation.

 

[Gaiff]

For anybody still struggling to see it from somebody elses point of view maybe consider something that you're just not that bothered by to see where others are coming from.

A good example of that is somebody who is an audiophile. They would bang on about some $1000 B&O speakers and how the frequency response is so much better and how you're deaf if you can't hear the difference. They'd fiddle around with outputs and use about 5 remotes to turn everything on and tweak the equaliser and other settings to play you Wonderwall. Then on the other side you've got the guy who says "alexa play wonderwall" on their $80 speaker and enjoys the music regardless of all that. That's essentially what this is in a nutshell without the fanboy affiliation.

Anybody over the age of 10 can see the different perspectives and understand them. Some posters will troll and pretend they don't for console warring.

I perfectly understand the appeal, convenience, and price of a console, just like I understand the allure of a high-end gaming rig. I also see why one doesn't care for consoles because they don't offer enough customization or performance and I also can understand why someone else doesn't want to be bothered by PC gaming and that the performance doesn't justify the price.

The answer is: It depends.

 

[Jesb]

I don't need a high end pc to enjoy high end gaming though. Not as long as GFN is around. Going from GFN to a PS5 would be a significant downgrade.

 

[Paulistano]

DF.. don't waste your time.

 

[Pimpbaa]

I mean diminishing returns makes the difference minimal in purely raster rendering based situations. But once you got with the path tracing like in Cyberpunk 2077, the difference are far more significant (going by videos). I think ray tracing (like a fully pathed traced scene) will be the last big graphical leap. But high end ray tracing requires high end video cards. Sure as hell ain't going to do much with a GeForce 4060 or 5060 (especially the standard 8GB versions). Lucky to get even console level visuals in vram heavy games. Once we 4090 level of ray tracing performance on the low end and in consoles, diminishing returns will hit real hard.

 

[Shubh_C63]

If you're find playing Shooters and everything with a controller, I don't think there is THAT much of a difference than pixel counting.
Ofcourse 144fps exists.

 

[RafterXL]

He achieved building a PC that is significantly faster than the Pro, with much better upscaling and RT performance as well. Using the Hogwarts Legacy example, he can enable DLSS 4 quality on his 1440p monitor, enable ray reconstruction with the new RT effects, and get a far more pleasing image than the Pro version.

Also, Hogwarts Legacy doesn't stutter like shit on PC anymore, all you really need is to cap the FPS with Rivatuner, optionally you can install the Ascendio mod, but with the FPS cap in place it is not really needed.

But I mentioned it as you keep repeating you need to spend "thousands" on PC gaming, which is simply not true.

You forgot to add the part where it runs at over twice the framerate. Hogwarts on PS5 Pro runs at 30 fps with RT. And that doesn't even get into the fact that it actually runs worse than the base PS5 version.

WTF did I just read

Dudes like that will be 80 years old, sitting in a nursing home, won't remember anything about their own life, but will still be spitting fanboy drivel about their favorite toy.

I don't need a high end pc to enjoy high end gaming though. Not as long as GFN is around. Going from GFN to a PS5 would be a significant downgrade.

This is also true. You can literally spend 20 a month and get better frames, better graphics. Kinda kills the idea you need $4k to play games on PC. In truth, it's significantly cheaper than console or PC hardware, all you need is internet, which we all have.

 

[SlimySnake]

I think it's insane that the conversation is still about high end when it should be about just how shitty the 3060 and 4060 cards have been. Utter Garbage in comparison to the 1060 which was well over 2x more powerful than the PS4 just 4 years in. Easily ran everything on PS4 at 2x the framerate and higher settings.

Now? They are roughly on par and then people throw a fit when they cant do what they did last gen. Well, maybe instead of shitting on devs, sto[ sucking Jensen's cock and guzzling his cum, and maybe you will get a 2x more powerful GPU for $250-300 like you did last gen.

But no, you are looking at a 4070 Ti and they go for $800 which is more than a 1080 Ti back in the day that would offer you 4x more performance than a PS4.

PC market is absolutely fucked. Took me a year and a half to get a 3080. And it cant even do Path tracing in recent games due to vram bottlenecks or other issues. Wukong, Outlaws, Indy all are unplayable on this $850 card from 2022 when it finally became available. And thats ok, i can at least run most games at roughly 2x more frames and ps5 quality settings. I say most because in some games, its only around 60% more powerful so here i am holding my dick on a $2k PC deciding whether to play a 30 fps all settings maxed out at dlss quality or settle for mid-high settings and dlss performance at 60 fps at which point i no longer feel like im getting a better experience.

If anything, the new transformer model has finally exposed DLSS 4k performance as the shit excuse for a 4k upscaler its always been, but was recommended by everyone to run these next games at 60 fps. No wonder people think UE5 games dont look next gen, they are playing them at incredibly low resolutions. I saw some people using dlss 1440p quality or performance to hit 60 fps on a 4070. Like wtf. have some standards for this expensive fucking card.

I really hoped for PS5 pro to be better, but Sony phoned that in too so I will stick with my shitty machine because its less shitty than the premium $700 sony console. i just feel bad for everyone running 60 series cards this gen 4+ years in.

 

[ZehDon]

Sony applies their world-renowned premium-level color science (present in their cameras and TV's) to the PS5. That's why, side-by-side, in real-life, PC games have a slight dullness and color incongruity when compared to the more vibrant/lushness/contrasty visuals of the PS5. I would take the PS5 Pro, all-day, everyday, with it's incredible color science over an RTX 5090-equipped PC that can give a resolution bump or some extra fps. It is of my persona opinion that connecting a PS5 Pro console to a large premium-quality QD-OLED TV offers the absolute best gaming experience you can get today.

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

Please pc fan boys , was a pc gamer for 10 years, never ending updates, crashes, viruses, performance problems, none stop tweaking to get things working properly, windows updates that break things. Fuck windows and pc gaming.

 

[reinking]

Sony applies their world-renowned premium-level color science (present in their cameras and TV's) to the PS5. That's why, side-by-side, in real-life, PC games have a slight dullness and color incongruity when compared to the more vibrant/lushness/contrasty visuals of the PS5. I would take the PS5 Pro, all-day, everyday, with it's incredible color science over an RTX 5090-equipped PC that can give a resolution bump or some extra fps. It is of my persona opinion that connecting a PS5 Pro console to a large premium-quality QD-OLED TV offers the absolute best gaming experience you can get today.

Hang in there buddy. I have survived plenty of dumb opinions around here.

 

[neocycle]

Please pc fan boys , was a pc gamer for 10 years, never ending updates, crashes, viruses, performance problems, none stop tweaking to get things working properly, windows updates that break things. Fuck windows and pc gaming.

100% agreed. Microsoft and Windows are awful and should not exist anymore.

 

[neocycle]

I look at Ghost of Tsushima on PC and compare it to PS5 (where I played it back then) and I wish I had waited. The draw distance for grass and shadows on PC are much higher, so much so that it increases immersion when overlooking vast grassy fields.

What's really annoying here is that PS5 could handle ultra settings. It would need a 30fps cap and a reduction from 4k to 1080-1440p (some DRS magic), but base PS5 could run this game at max settings. PS5 Pro could push 60 (or at least 40fps) at ultra settings... but for some reason Sucker Punch never gave people a graphics mode, so you are left with low grass density at a distance.

An insignificant difference.
You are technophile. It's a sickness.