Pestilence11
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Sean Murray definitely did say it was possible to manually fly between systems and also that there would be stuff to find in between, like dead planets etc.
A polite discourse amongst friends on the importance of MP-elements in No Man's Sky
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Sean Murray definitely did say it was possible to manually fly between systems and also that there would be stuff to find in between, like dead planets etc.
habithipster
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Elite is doing it fantastically though, check out this trip from a space station to the ring system of a planet orbiting a distant star: https://youtu.be/hZ0uGlHMD-8?t=18
Netherscourge
Banned
Well that's new:
Steam The game will be available to download from Friday 6PM BST [UK]/1PM EST [US]/ 10AM PST [US] / 7PM CEST, please note: Pre-loads are unavailable.
No preloads.
Steam The game will be available to download from Friday 6PM BST [UK]/1PM EST [US]/ 10AM PST [US] / 7PM CEST, please note: Pre-loads are unavailable.
No preloads.
Working on multiple games to be fair.
Not all of them are on the Elite dev team.
That'S from 2014 though.
The game looks much better nowadays.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Elite is 30$ tho.
the game is only 5Gb
The Jackdog
Member
i see where youre coming from, and id gladly eat crow on this. i just have less faith i guess than you do.
i guess its hit a point for me where the lack of communication IS the communication
Netherscourge
Banned
You chose to ignore the next paragraph:
They are 15 people. They literally work on one project or issue at a time. Right now, the PC launch is their project.
Probably because they'll be working on it up until just before it goes live.
Crystal clear
Considering that the game isn't very large, it shouldn't be much of an issue for people who bought it, but strange that they'd do this.
VlaudTheImpaler
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Sigh... I'm trying my hardest to be kind to the team but come on, come oonnnn man. They are not making it easy.
I've only seem them do a couple iOS games and an Xbox game besides Planet Coaster and ED. So I'd think at least half of their staff maybe slightly less is working on ED still. (assuming they aren't doing unannounced work). Which still puts them way over HG 13 or 14.
RichiRamjag
Member
It was $60 way back.
As it should. They sold the game for $60 to many players based on obtuse misinformation and now they refuse to clarify when people are asking a very simple, short question.
Why do you think they don't deserve the backlash?
An no, people are trashing the studio because they sense that they are treated like dumb idiots once again.
Then another $60 for Horizons or $45 if you owned the original already.
I know, they know, they don't care.
I thought it was supposed to be a massive connected universe with all the moving pieces. Surprised you can't fly into a sun.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Wow, surprised no response yet.
Makes me think it's some kind of awesome Easter egg.
Makes me think it's some kind of awesome Easter egg.
Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
Got a source for all of that? Because I don't see how it matters at all. Distances between systems are realistic. Even using the Pulse Engine it would take years to travel from one system to another (assuming you can keep it fueled). It may be techically possible but in practice it's impossible and irrelevant.
lol 'awesome'
thecouncil
Banned
It sure would be nice if they would enumerate what issues they are talking about....
#1: http://no-mans-sky.com/press/sheet.php?p=no_man's_sky
"A TRULY OPEN UNIVERSE If you can see it, you can go there. You can fly seamlessly from the surface of a planet to another, and every star in the sky is a sun that you can visit."
#2: IN a video interview that I still need to find.
"but nobody's actually done it yet. It takes, like, an inordinate amount of time. Like a really, really long time."
What is this, rational thought? I gave them my $60, they are now my slaves and I expect them to prioritize my issues above any other priority that they might have.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Maybe they are prioritizing a list, and will release it after the PC version launches, since they may cover some in that version. Like most development.
Since you know...
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
Exactly. This is what many people do not understand. We are the consumer. They are the ones who are getting our money and no small amount of it at that. They are literally getting rich off of the misinformation. It is in their immediate best interest to keep it that way though it would be better off for them in the long run if they didn't. It is in our best interest if we get answers as quickly as possible and the longer it takes to get them the more faith people are going to lose in the studio and their name will become slandered.
If you bought it at launch, but they fairly quickly realized how bonkers that was and changed it. It's now $50 for the game and the extension, and it's on sale quite often.
I actually paid 120 for the lifetime pass back in Alpha.
I get absolutely everything they ever release for the game in terms of content automatically.
Yup.
I said a couple of pages back, they might save a chunk of money which would've been lost by clarifying the issue but they will pay with their reputation instead. Unfortunately they chose the short-sighted option.
Sucks SO hard, but I expected it after Sean addressed it in his AMA. Seriously considering coming home on my lunch break just to install it heh.Not midnight EST, that sucks.
RichiRamjag
Member
It was like that for a bit if I remember correctly. My mates got into it late and wanted me to grab it on steam, but it was too rich for my blood at $60. As was NMS
The Jackdog
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Krappadizzle
Member
I can just imagine Colbert coming home from a long day of writing and filming to sit down with his PS4 to play No Man's Sky with his buddies from work. "Don't worry guys, I know work today was stressful and long, but now let's relax a bit and explore the galaxy together. First though, let me check Neogaf to see how we get this multiplayer started."
No that's all true. You can visit the surface of any planet you can see. Every star in the sky can be visited. You can't go directly to the star but you can be in that star's system.
I haven't heard their side of the story yet, and I think it's still too early. I can't really give an estimate on when I think would be the appropriate time, either, so you've got me there. I'll admit that I'm a bit lenient when I've been presented with nothing but a positive image of the studio and Sean Murray himself; generally when I get a glimpse into the life of a developer that isn't some heavily-produced marketing piece it never really seems like one of a salesman or con artist or anything like that.
You see folks show up in places like on a Giant Bomb broadcast and they seem nice, relatable people for the most part, and I mean I don't see anyone eyeing a PR Agent off-set or anything like that so I assume that I'm seeing that person in a somewhat relaxed state. I know personally that software development, especially game development is a huge beast and sometimes things just don't come together in time or things change and unfortunately the secrecy in the gaming industry is a huge negative to the player who purchases these products. I believe that people are right to ask for answers, but at the end of the day these are also people with lives (on both sides!) and they're doing a job. In this specific instance these people at Hello Games seem pretty dedicated and passionate about their game. I've watched the development of this game over time and I've seen their setbacks, and sure all that factors into my view of them.
But in the end they are human beings that I think deserve a bit of respect for the effort they've put into this game. A lot of the effort is shown in the final product, right now its a small portion of it that is missing and players are choosing to focus on this part and just hurl accusations immediately.
I think the backlash they are receiving now is warranted should they come out and say the feature is cut regardless of some NDA. But out of the respect of everyone's time is it so misguided to ask that we get to that moment naturally through escalation rather than throw out any semblance of decency and dignity immediately upon finding out that feature X is missing in a game filled with features?
Moreover I think it is certainly a fair question to ask people are so caught up in the multiplayer aspect what their intents and desires were with that feature, because it is very possible due to what we've read and what we can glean from purposely vague responses that the included feature just wouldn't stack up anyway. Being more civil about the issue in this manner would certainly gain more favor with those doing the coding to maybe include that feature over shaming them.
VlaudTheImpaler
tl;dr
Can you travel from system to system without warping?
The Jackdog
Member
Im just upset that this is so unprecedented
Imagine if bungie got up to show destiny, and right at the start showed off the enviroment and said something like "you can walk to everything you can see here, but we'll save that for later" or "see those mountains? you can climb those" and then it turned out in the retail release, you couldnt do that at all.
Thatd really piss people off. Good thing that will never happen right guys?
Imagine if bungie got up to show destiny, and right at the start showed off the enviroment and said something like "you can walk to everything you can see here, but we'll save that for later" or "see those mountains? you can climb those" and then it turned out in the retail release, you couldnt do that at all.
Thatd really piss people off. Good thing that will never happen right guys?
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"Dear No Man's Sky,
Thanks for making a support page! I saw during the promotion of the game you guys kept saying I could run into and see other players, but no one seems to be able to get it to work. People have gone to the same place under numerous conditions while online and there are no visible players to anyone, despite that feature being mentioned as an exciting uncommon feat! What's going on? How do we see other players who are online at the same location?
Thanks"
Thanks for making a support page! I saw during the promotion of the game you guys kept saying I could run into and see other players, but no one seems to be able to get it to work. People have gone to the same place under numerous conditions while online and there are no visible players to anyone, despite that feature being mentioned as an exciting uncommon feat! What's going on? How do we see other players who are online at the same location?
Thanks"
Not sure. Havent had years to try yet. But I dont understand your question. That's not what the quote said. It was two separate statements. one about planet surfaces and one about stars in the sky.
It wasn't saying you could seamlessly fly to every star in the sky....
I can just imagine Colbert coming home from a long day of writing and filming to sit down with his PS4 to play No Man's Sky with his buddies from work. "Don't worry guys, I know work today was stressful and long, but now let's relax a bit and explore the galaxy together. First though, let me check Neogaf to see how we get this multiplayer started."
See? You just dont do that. Its Colbert man.
Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
No, but that quoted press statement doesn't imply that you could. Stop pretending it does and stop pretending that Murray is the next Molyneux.
So its not an actually seamless universe after all then? Just several huge rooms around stars which you choose to fly to by menu?
Netherscourge
Banned
FYI: This is the entire Hello Games staff:
Aaron Andrews – @br0br0br0
Gareth Bourn – @gjbourn
Simon Carter – @bbbscarter
Harry Denholm – @HarryDenholm
Ryan Doyle – @bbodd
Grant Duncan – @GrantDuncan
Jake Golding – @BaconJacob
Beau Lamb – @BeauLamb
Innes McKendrick – @InnesMcK
Sean Murray – @NoMansSky
Levi Naess
David Ream – @DavidSReam
Matthew Reynolds – @Crazyreyn
Charlie Tangora – @ginsweater
Suzy Wallace
15 people total.
It's going to take a while for bugs and glitches to be fixed.
BTW - they each have specialized fields. So you can't ask an Environmental Artist or Animator to work on netcode and you can't ask a Networking Engineer or A.I. Scriptor to build more space station interiors.
So just kick back and have a little patience. These people also need food and sleep. Shocking, I know.
Aaron Andrews – @br0br0br0
Gareth Bourn – @gjbourn
Simon Carter – @bbbscarter
Harry Denholm – @HarryDenholm
Ryan Doyle – @bbodd
Grant Duncan – @GrantDuncan
Jake Golding – @BaconJacob
Beau Lamb – @BeauLamb
Innes McKendrick – @InnesMcK
Sean Murray – @NoMansSky
Levi Naess
David Ream – @DavidSReam
Matthew Reynolds – @Crazyreyn
Charlie Tangora – @ginsweater
Suzy Wallace
15 people total.
It's going to take a while for bugs and glitches to be fixed.
BTW - they each have specialized fields. So you can't ask an Environmental Artist or Animator to work on netcode and you can't ask a Networking Engineer or A.I. Scriptor to build more space station interiors.
So just kick back and have a little patience. These people also need food and sleep. Shocking, I know.
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