A Tale of 'Merica and Milk - I just walked out and abandoned a job interview. FML.

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ElyrionX said:
You have posted enough on GAF for me to know more about you than I need to without ever meeting you. Ironically, I probably know more about you than you did about your interviewer or the company before you chose to walk out of there. And yet you feel justified in your original action and here you are feeling angry about my comments. Lol.

FWIW, I have a decent job in a good industry in a country where the labour market is tight. If I cared enough about a potential job right now to attend an interview, I would have never done what you did. In fact, I have suffered through far worse interview processes in the past without burning any bridges. Maybe that's why life is comparatively easy for me these days. You reap what you sow.
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how does it feel to be a doormat

'murica
 
Mailenstein said:
I wish people could focus on the actual thing instead of his personal situation, criminal records and/or anything else.

The way the company handles business and future employees is flat out unprofessional. The kicker is, that people seem to have understanding for this behavior and act like "that's the real world, it sucks but suck it up. Have to pay your bills man. Have to put your ego/pride aside sometimes and be the bitch.".

What's up with that? It sounds like any company in this world has the right to treat people like shit, just because they pay them money/give them a job. OP, don't wanna deal with twats like that boss? Get self-employed.
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He has a track record of bitching and moaning about everyone and everything on GAF.

He also has an ego the size of 'Merica, because obviously he's the only American who has day to day struggles.

He should be more mature and "suck it up" to pay his bills, but I really doubt someone with that much insecurity is even a gambler.

My unprofessional IANAD opinion? He's a pathological liar with narcissist tendencies.
 
Mailenstein said:
I wish people could focus on the actual thing instead of his personal situation, criminal records and/or anything else.

The way the company handles business and future employees is flat out unprofessional. The kicker is, that people seem to have understanding for this behavior and act like "that's the real world, it sucks but suck it up. Have to pay your bills man. Have to put your ego/pride aside sometimes and be the bitch.".

What's up with that? It sounds like any company in this world has the right to treat people like shit, just because they pay them money/give them a job. OP, don't wanna deal with twats like that boss? Get self-employed.
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They didn't treat him like shit. They let him wait for 45 minutes.

Perspective is a great thing to have.
 
Thacker said:
I am extremely focused and dedicated to everything I set my mind to. Despite my anxiety I am calm in pressure situations related to high impact information technology decisions and problems. I played poker professionally for three years and was very successful in that timeframe doing it. I mixed live play with mostly online play and have over 8 million hands in online, and over 110,000 in live play. During that time I made highly consequential decisions under extreme time constraint which had a direct reflection on my own personal income and livelihood. I maintained a much higher than average win rate for the respective stakes I played and learned a ton about many different types of people. I have a relatively decent resume which includes industry certifications and the market rate for a position I could hold is in the 60-80k range.

I am a smart individual but I do ask for respect and courtesy towards myself especially if I extend it to you. I can and will make a company a lot of money off the work that I do, but I want to be appreciated for that work. This doesn't mean monetary compensation as much as it means actual appreciation and respect for me as an individual.
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Good lord...it's going to be a long fall off that pedestal you're on...
 
Mailenstein said:
What's up with that? It sounds like any company in this world has the right to treat people like shit, just because they pay them money/give them a job. OP, don't wanna deal with twats like that boss? Get self-employed.
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Thing is any reasonable person doesn't see waiting a half hour when you have nothing better to do and are in need of money as being treated like shit. The boss wasn't coming out with his metaphorical dick out asking OP to suck it. From what's been written, the guy just in a routine that he wanted/or had to adhere to. It's a perceived slight rather than an intentional one. Any reasonable person would have just asked what was going on or taken the affable route of turning the job down politely instead of leaving an burning the bridge afterward.
 
Thacker said:
I am extremely focused and dedicated to everything I set my mind to. Despite my anxiety I am calm in pressure situations related to high impact information technology decisions and problems. I played poker professionally for three years and was very successful in that timeframe doing it. I mixed live play with mostly online play and have over 8 million hands in online, and over 110,000 in live play. During that time I made highly consequential decisions under extreme time constraint which had a direct reflection on my own personal income and livelihood. I maintained a much higher than average win rate for the respective stakes I played and learned a ton about many different types of people. I have a relatively decent resume which includes industry certifications and the market rate for a position I could hold is in the 60-80k range.

I am a smart individual but I do ask for respect and courtesy towards myself especially if I extend it to you. I can and will make a company a lot of money off the work that I do, but I want to be appreciated for that work. This doesn't mean monetary compensation as much as it means actual appreciation and respect for me as an individual.
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That's nice, but bro, get it together. Maybe after you've had a chance to sleep on it, you can admit you goofed. You did. It happens, it's OK, but man, you have to handle minor adversity, or really just inconveniences, better. Honestly. Ask yourself, how bad would it have been to politely ask the receptionist for an update? Yes, I've read that you understand the owner was within earshot, but no one is asking you to act belligerent or drop f-bombs. We're assuming you could ask with tact in a pleasant tone. Worst case scenario: you interview, you have some of your fears verified, you walk out, no harm done.

On your next interview, plan for the worst. Expect it. Walk into the lobby and expect to be sitting there for 3 hours. Just convince yourself that's what's going to happen. Anything to get yourself mentally prepared for, again, what is minor. With any luck, you'll only be waiting 5 minutes.

But again, I have to tell you, you goofed. You need to face it, stop making excuses. Sleep on it, feel better. Do better tomorrow.
 
Fiction said:
Where are book spoilers? I see people talking about two characters who died very early in the series. Did I miss a post?
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Right? If you read it yet, then you weren't interested until you saw the show and so you already know that.

The Lamp said:
And? No excuse.
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Spoiler expiration period has totally run out dude.

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chris121580 said:
Good lord...it's going to be a long fall off that pedestal you're on...
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Pedestal.
Knowing what you're worth is a pedestal?

Do people really wonder why salaries are down across the board? Why the middle class is disappearing and why the wealth inequality in this country continues to grow?
 
Featheredkitten said:
...It's nearly ten years old and there's a massively huge TV show on it. Come on man.
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I'm pretty sure there's stuff in this thread that the show hasn't covered yet and is only in the most recent book, unless I just forgot what
Viserys' downfall is.

EDIT: Fuck, I was thinking of Varys. Carry on, there's no real spoilers here.
 
The longer we talk about GoT spoilers and not OPs impressively idiotic decision the longer people are going to be like:

"OP like someone from GOT? I gotta watch that show cause it'll be fucking entertaining as shit."

Also the more visible it is for the 12 people who've seen the first 6 episodes of Season 1 and actually intend on watching the rest.

Afrodium said:
I'm pretty sure there's stuff in this thread that the show hasn't covered yet and is only in the most recent book, unless I just forgot what
Viserys' downfall is.
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This is my point! Show watchers AND book readers don't even remember who Viserys is! Lets get back to OP.
 
Thacker said:
No. I expected the owner to come out and speak to me and talk to me directly, not have his receptionist handle all communication between us.

It's the owner that was playing like he was a big business, not me.
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Companies that size don't have "receptionists," they have assistants who do a ton of work. That's what the girl told you, isn't it?

That work might include the job of a receptionist.. which is often to handle visitors when the person they are visiting isn't ready to be seen.

If that person shows up early, and finishes filling out paperwork early, the wait can be a while.

A small business owner has LESS time to talk to you than a hiring manager at a corporation, not the other way around. The fact that he's even meeting with you is the opposite of playing big business, it's being a very small business. The reason you don't have to wait when you show up to interview at a big corp is because half the time the hiring manager really is not all that important. They can leave any meeting and the work doesn't stop, the opposite of a small company where you meet with the owner.

He COULD have jumped out and said hi or something.. would have been more polite than not doing it. But to actually sit there and get so angry and invent this narrative in your head about all the signs and signals? It's concerning dude. Determining the place isn't for you is one thing, but leaving an interview boiling mad because you had to wait (after being early) is another thing.
 
Thacker said:
Pedestal.
Knowing what you're worth is a pedestal?

Do people really wonder why salaries are down across the board? Why the middle class is disappearing and why the wealth inequality in this country continues to grow?
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Why don't you have a job if that's what you're worth?
 
The Lamp said:
Have you ever even considered that, as a manager, shit happens when you're important and you're busy, and that sometimes that shit is more important than you, an IT candidate? That manager could have had a very important phone call occur... That could have been HIS boss trying to get him to fix something immediately. It could have been a family emergency. It could have been lots of reasons. You didn't even give him the chance to explain to you at the interview. You just left. It's not like you even had something else to do. You're unemployed.

Your handling of the situation is unreal.
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I didn't even see that letter, goddamn. That has to be... honestly, it suggests a need to completely reevaluate one's own employment value. Thatcher would likely be a very difficult person to work with if he's this sensitive to something that wasn't even outrageous in the first place.

Thatcher, take this thread, internalize it and change. We all make mistakes, I've made more than most, the goal is to recognize the mistake and then try to modify the behavior. You'll stumble, I always did anyway, but keep a clear and steady goal of change in mind, and one day you will.
 
Fiction said:
Where are book spoilers? I see people talking about two characters who died very early in the series. Did I miss a post?
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Well now I know for sure.

Thanks GAF. I'm literally reading this book on my Kindle as I browse this thread, and figured I could avoid needless spoilers by avoiding the discussion threads.

Now this thread is a double disappointment.
 
Thacker said:
Pedestal.
Knowing what you're worth is a pedestal?

Do people really wonder why salaries are down across the board? Why the middle class is disappearing and why the wealth inequality in this country continues to grow?
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Because people keep walking out of job interviews?
 
Afrodium said:
I'm pretty sure there's stuff in this thread that the show hasn't covered yet and is only in the most recent book, unless I just forgot what
Viserys' downfall is.

EDIT: Fuck, I was thinking of Varys. Carry on, there's no real spoilers here.
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Lol, yep, no problem.

Edit: Haven't actually read past the third book or so. Only watch the show 'cause my SO loooooves the series
 
Thacker said:
Pedestal.
Knowing what you're worth is a pedestal?

Do people really wonder why salaries are down across the board? Why the middle class is disappearing and why the wealth inequality in this country continues to grow?
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I agree, fuck the man.

If we can't walk out in the middle of job interviews without consequence, this country is going down the shitter.
 
The Lamp said:
Well now I know for sure.

Thanks GAF. I'm literally reading this book on my Kindle as I browse this thread, and figured I could avoid needless spoilers by avoiding the discussion threads.

Now this thread is a double disappointment.
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I am very careful not to spoil people, but I assumed anything aired on the show is fair game considering the books are so very old. My apologies. Minor characters at least.

Kerned said:
Maybe OP=Euron. He did leave the interview in a hurry. Where was he going?
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To get some ships. Bitches love ships.

Log4Girlz said:
Then what was it? God, now I'll never stop thinking of that peach.
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I bet it was the best damned peach ever eaten.
 
I'm assuming that as a possible senior IT level staff member at a managed service company you'd likely deal with clients a lot ?

in that case - it's all for the best - if you can't wait 45 minutes clients would send you crazy
 
Man, when I was the OP's age, I'd BEG photo buyers at ad agencies for the opportunity to hang around the coffee machines for three hours and hand out free breakfast foods that I saved up all month from my meager photo assistant day rates to pay for, just in the hope that I'd get a few creatives to meet me, look at my book, and take my card. Then, if I was lucky, maybe I'd get the chance to shoot some free test for an art director or some creative director's vanity or pro bono project, and hope I could shave a little of the expense money into my pocket. Then, if that went well, a few months later, maybe I could get a chance to shoot an actual paying gig after a rapport was built.

Not really complaining, but that's how it goes in my industry.
 
The Lamp said:
Well now I know for sure.

Thanks GAF. I'm literally reading this book on my Kindle as I browse this thread, and figured I could avoid needless spoilers by avoiding the discussion threads.

Now this thread is a double disappointment.
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Sending PM. Lets move discussion off potential GoT spoilers unless they involve Thacker's incompetent attempts at relating a work of low fiction to ACTUAL REAL LIFE.
 
Thacker said:
Pedestal.
Knowing what you're worth is a pedestal?

Do people really wonder why salaries are down across the board? Why the middle class is disappearing and why the wealth inequality in this country continues to grow?
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So you're trying to take the world out of a huge crysis here.
And yeah, that is a pedestal.
 
Damn. I work retail right now putting myself through college after four years in the Army.

I basically get treated like that every day. The latest is that we have to show up at 8 AM on sundays for training on service plans if our percentage is under a certain number (the entire store).

Waiting 45 minutes in life for something potentially life changing is a small price to pay. Hopefully you get used to it at some point.
 
I get that you're only 27 but this whole 'holier than thou...the world owes me something' mentality you have is not going to get you anywhere in life. Should the owner have mentioned something about being with you soon? Maybe...but he doesn't owe you a damn thing. You're there to impress him and demonstrate to him why you'd be an asset to his company...he's not there to impress you. He runs the interview...not you. You can mention this whole, "I'm interviewing him too" thing all you want but we all know that doesn't fly when you're desperate for a job...at least I thought you were desperate based on all the complaining you did in your other thread. The bottom line is you don't know a thing about that company and how things are run and you don't have a valid reason to justify why you walked out no matter how hard you try to convince yourself or this forum otherwise. You took 2 dumb actions by walking out and emailing him. I just cringe thinking about the fact you actually sent that email. Learn from it and move on. Next time when things aren't going your way for an interview, be patient and think things through before taking action.
 
If I needed the job, as you say you do, and didn't have any pressing commitments, I'd have waited. I can even understand the frustration over the wait and lack of communication that was causing the delay in your interview from occurring on time. However, your email was out of line. A work related or personal emergency might have sprung for the person who was supposed to interview you. Having worked in technology, I'm sure you understand how chaotic things can get in the matter of moments. The more time you spend in the field, the more you'll run into the same folks, maybe in different positions, over and over again. It's just not smart to burn bridges.
 
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