Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. |OT| Tahiti is a Magical Place (to...Hey guys, I found it!)
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firehawk12
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Of course he is. They already pulled this stuff with Skye and May.
The Outsider
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I mentioned it as soon as the show ended, but this was an awesome moment:
Someone on reddit called this out. The cutter Fury and Maria use in TWS is the same one they use to get out of the plane and Fitz made them.
I hope they don't redeem Ward he makes an okay villain and i don't see how the audience would buy a redemption after the fake Clairvoyant and Hand.
I hope they don't redeem Ward he makes an okay villain and i don't see how the audience would buy a redemption after the fake Clairvoyant and Hand.
Well... we do know that Baron von Strucker is in possession of Loki's scepter, which seems to use the power of the Mind Gem to control people's minds. Maybe Strucker can control Ward through the gem just like Lorelei dominated him in an earlier episode. The Baron seems to also be controlling Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch with it. It could be that Ward will be the lead bad guy in the show until a possible redemption in season 2, once the Avengers take care of Strucker and Ultron in Avengers 2.
Oh, and I'm glad Bill Paxton will still be around.
Yeah, I mentioned the same thing, yesterday morning (HULU). Nice crossover.
firehawk12
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Maybe. I just don't think this show has the guts to permanently change a character like that - at least not a member of the starring cast. I don't know what would bother me more though, a redemption arc or a double/triple-agent arc.
So you did, I looked back the past couple of pages to see if anyone caught it. I guess I didn't go far back enough.
People are spoilering episode stuff and not spoilering TWS.
Also, regarding Coulson's freak out during the opening moments of the episode... it's nice seeing him being more human over time. For the first half of the season, his character was basically the one dimensional smug he's been in every Marvel movie. All he used to do was walk around making this face:
That was an awesome episode.
Hail HYDRA!
I think Ward is going undercover to infiltrate HYDRA. The look between him and Coulson. The "killing" of Victoria Hand and the SHIELD agents was to convince Garrett.
Basically, I just want Victoria Hand not to be dead.
The show is good now. Anyone saying otherwise really have unrealistic expectations of a 22-episode network show.
Hail HYDRA!
I think Ward is going undercover to infiltrate HYDRA. The look between him and Coulson. The "killing" of Victoria Hand and the SHIELD agents was to convince Garrett.
Basically, I just want Victoria Hand not to be dead.
The show is good now. Anyone saying otherwise really have unrealistic expectations of a 22-episode network show.
Napoleonthechimp
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It was a pretty good episode.
But I don't care for Clark Gregg's overwrought emotional acting, or Ward and Skye getting together.
With their predictable reliance on fake-outs I can't imagine the show runners would leave Ward as a double crossing Hydra agent. So, with all the talk of SHIELD's soul Ward is either a full on psychopath or he setup that entire thing beforehand just so he could rout out the rest of Hydra.
But I don't care for Clark Gregg's overwrought emotional acting, or Ward and Skye getting together.
With their predictable reliance on fake-outs I can't imagine the show runners would leave Ward as a double crossing Hydra agent. So, with all the talk of SHIELD's soul Ward is either a full on psychopath or he setup that entire thing beforehand just so he could rout out the rest of Hydra.
Statue of Limitation
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Hands Hydra test is not day 1 shield initiation - its the organisation getting firebombed and her trying to gather some sort of 100% loyal force, she intends to burn through a lot of innocent agents but that's the price of survival.
Yeah the acting in those WardXSkye scenes and the Coulson freak-out were terrible. I'm going with Ward being a total psychopath. If you remember the episode where they reveal his childhood trauma it turned out Ward was the tormenter who nearly killed his brother by throwing him down a well.
Velcro Fly
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Ward/Skye seems like an awful idea. I at least enjoy Fitz/Simmons where it's obvious there is something there but nothing ever really happens. It seems almost as forced as the brief "love story" that happened earlier this season in Person of Interest.
Jables Swan
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I mentioned it as soon as the show ended, but this was an awesome moment:
Amazing. Great episode.
Hours Left
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Might still be too fresh a spoiler, though it would be cool. I think next week it could be changed, and maybe we can stop tagging TWS spoilers.Damn, it should have been Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. |OT| Tahiti is a Magical Place (To HAIL HYDRA!) like someone suggested a page or so back.
HAIL HYDRA!
They wanted to ensure that the general public would stop watching the show and only the die hard Marvel fans would remain. That way, they could show an episode filled with spoilers for a movie that had been released less than a week prior, and not run the risk of ruining the movie for too many people.
Hours Left
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Next season needs to be 13 episodes.
But Loeb's comments about "stories" and demographics don't fill me with much confidence.
Napoleonthechimp
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I can't believe that still guy gets work let alone be in the position he currently holds.
Wow, watched TWS last night before watching this episode. Totally worth it. I just hope that if it's still around for a season 2, they make it stand on its own without needing movies as a crutch. Otherwise, I like how this all played together.
Sucks for those who didn't see the movie... since they mentioned the carriers, deflating any tension the movie may have held for those who have yet to see it.
Sucks for those who didn't see the movie... since they mentioned the carriers, deflating any tension the movie may have held for those who have yet to see it.
More or less each trailer for the TWS had those carriers, clearly shown crashing down.
Hours Left
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So facepalm worthy. At least Bell throws in the comments about dudes too.
I hope Marvel sees why the show is finally getting buzz and takes the necessary... steps.
thecouncil
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His delivery of that line with a shrug was great.
It is funny because I read that as Bell going "oh shit what did he just say, quick how do I save this one!"
Hours Left
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So my nephew sent me a message saying that I better see Captain America before watching last night's episode...? I got it on DVR(TV show of course) but how bad are the spoilers or is it just the understanding of one of the two I will miss if I dont go and see CA(which I have no intention of seeing yet)? ...I hope this doesnt become a trend.
Well something major happens in Captain America: The Winter Soldier. So you will miss a ton if you don't see it.
mugurumakensei
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Not necessary to watch cap, but it does enhance the experience if cap is watched first.
You will understand the episode just fine but it spoils several major plot points for Cap and the episode is definitely enhanced if you've seen the movie.
You know...I think it'll make Cap 2 better in some way by watching this episode first.
EscoBlades
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When they did the closeup focus on Hand's...well, hand, i was really hoping one of her fingers would twitch. Just to signify life.
fallengorn
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Pinch one loaf, two shall takes its place.
Just be glad that everyone on the show is moron and audience did not build and meaningful connections with them.
Whedon mastered the craft of creating very likable characters and then making them suffer/die in incredibly brutal ways. SHIELD showrunners are still far from that level of mastery.
Napoleonthechimp
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It got to me, but in a way that made me think less of him. That guy should really grow a spine.
Big spoilers. The fate of characters and what happens during the events of TWS are spelled out in the episode.
Jest Chillin
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While I'm sure people will dispute this.. I'm sure Jed and Maurissa can do it if they wanted to. However killing off popular/likable characters isn't something they'd likely do for a show trying to reach a large audience.
Goons are a dime a dozen, brains are not.
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