CloudyTuba
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I'm expecting Ward to come back around, though I wish that the show had the balls to stick to their guns and keep him Hydra. We'll see.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. |OT| Tahiti is a Magical Place (to...Hey guys, I found it!)
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fallengorn
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Reading TWS interviews
they considered it, but they wanted to keep TWS grounded. Having Pierce reveal himself as the Red Skull throws that out the window. The Skull is basically "dead" until they need him as a villain again.
dead souls
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Sure but DVR viewers aren't making ABC any money.
Jest Chillin
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Ratings are compiled by special boxes that certain people/families have that track their viewing. As apart of that, these viewers have their ages and sex tracked. So when you see the ratings number, it doesn't represent the raw number of viewers but the amount of viewers with the special boxes that are within the age/sex range that the show's advertisers want to market to. I think the most common group is Men 18-49? But it can vary depending on the show and network.
While that's true, DVR does represent the overall popularity of the show and can be useful in other ways. It's pretty clear that Marvel/Disney is looking to play the long game with regards to the MCU, so AoS can still recover once people see how the tone and pace of the show is evolving. Arrow saw this happen when it's first season was added to Netflix leading into S2.
they do track dvr views also
like ratings for revenge are around 6-7 million and 1-1.5 million on dvr
i thought dvr ratings count
TacticalFox88
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Depends entirely on the network and type of show.
For example, if the CW got 4.9 million to watch Arrow, they'd be throwing champagne and partying it up.
For AoS...that's....okay.
Not bad by any means, but compared to the pilot's ratings, absolutely god awful.
Weapxn
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DVR and online streaming actually matter a lot nowadays depending on the network, show, etc. It's saved quite a few low performers the past few years.
dead souls
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Like what?
Online streaming is still a tiny drop in the bucket and all the hype around things like Live+7 DVR numbers is just PR spin. If you aren't watching the commercials within three days advertisers aren't paying any money for you and you're basically irrelevant as a viewer.
The Outsider
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[TWS]
Small correction: Alexander Pierce is his own character in the comics, an agent of SHIELD with no HYDRA connections. You might be thinking of Aleksander Lukin, whose mind Red Skull inhabited. That said, there's definitely aspects of Lukin that were integrated into Pierce's character, so maybe that's what you were getting at in the first place.
Darth Pinche
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Dammit Hydra, they took over the rating boxes to create more chaos and disorder!
Just a bad night for ABC, where I think they finished behind Univision in total ratings for the night.
The Outsider
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Happy about this.
Yes! Jackson and Smulders on this show.
Lone_Prodigy
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Ward will do anything to sleep with Skye.
I liked how Garrett's story in the tag is the exact same one he told to Coulson.
I liked how Garrett's story in the tag is the exact same one he told to Coulson.
Great news.. Although she needs to be a series regular.
Mutanthands
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I think that Hydra is an equal opportunity oppressor these days. They made the point in the first Captain America film that Hydra was breaking away from the Reich, and I imagine that the Marvel Cinematic Universe will not include any lingering Nazi ideology in Hydra going forward. I bet that
Baron Strucker is not a Nazi.
Neo-Nazis are kinda pathetic, to be honest.
Lone_Prodigy
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It's like every rogue organization. They target the disillusioned members, ply them with promises of a promotion/a better world, use a high ranking officer to sell it, and then they're recruited.
Also limits the ability to sell the show in Germany.
As for the rating, I'm guessing we're going to be seeing some MASSIVE retooling between seasons. I wouldn't be shocked to see them dump at least one cast member and maybe add a new person.
We give them a better benefits package, it also includes dental plan.
COBRAAAAA...... i mean HAIL HYDRA!
Yeah, they're just opportunistic fascists now.
SquiddyCracker
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Severance package is generous...
... in bodily severing.
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Gemüsepizza
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So you are ok with executing innocent people? Then you and Victoria Hand are no better than Hydra.
EscoBlades
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Hydra Intensifies
I'm cool with this. But like everyone else, I want Hill as a regular.
BronsonLee
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This one kind of makes sense to me. They've made it very clear that watching this spoils Winter Soldier, so people may be waiting.
I think ABC must be expecting it. Aren't they airing this week's episode again before next week's?
Rafa=FedKilla
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They can try to rationalize the low ratings all you want but if you hang your hat on a hot side character Loeb, then well I have a show on ghe CW to sell you. It's just not a viable strategy in the era of Facebook stalking.
This should've been a midseason show with 13 episodes and no repeats. Premiere in late February or early March with a few episodes introducing the characters and leading into Cap 2, then an action-packed back half that keeps the momentum going.
BronsonLee
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Possibly..It's a bit weird. The interconnected stuff with the MCU does kind of put the show in a bit of a bind, though I think they're thinking more long term with it if they're connecting it to everything.
The new side character in Agents of SHIELD Season 2 is Renee Young
Pai Pai Master
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Funny, I absolutely hated Ward but am totally fine with him sticking around as a HYDRA baddie. Will be pissed if there's some stupid redemption arc.
Wish Hand was sticking around longer though. I know she's been dead in the comics for a minute now but there were some interesting places they could have taken her.
Wish Hand was sticking around longer though. I know she's been dead in the comics for a minute now but there were some interesting places they could have taken her.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Aw, that sucks. This episode was genuinely awesome. When will DVR numbers be in?
There's potential here. Now it feels like the show is on the right track.
Yes!
Lone_Prodigy
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It's possible Ward and Hand are in on it, though Hand's death looks pretty convincing.
Best way to infiltrate a secret organization is to make a captured enemy escape and lead them to their leaders.
Best way to infiltrate a secret organization is to make a captured enemy escape and lead them to their leaders.
BattleMonkey
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You purposely don't want people to avoid watching your show live. It sends a bad message to advertisers and lessens the value of your slot.
They would not have shown
Hand's body if they did not intend to mislead us. The whole scene was unrealistic. I mean... a professional agent asking another to just "finish the job" instead of a thorough questioning process at least before the traitor is locked away?
They had to be faking it in order to truly get in, double agent-style.
I expect "I might be a double agent, but there is no redemption for me" line from Ward and pity sex from Skye in the next season.
They had to be faking it in order to truly get in, double agent-style.
I expect "I might be a double agent, but there is no redemption for me" line from Ward and pity sex from Skye in the next season.
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