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Alanah Pearce - It's going to get worse
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gaming_again
Member
'Worse'?
I don't care about AAA. This clear-out has been due for a while. Talent will still find work. The psychos making terrible decisions will go to another industry. Creative destruction is necessary sometimes.
I don't care about AAA. This clear-out has been due for a while. Talent will still find work. The psychos making terrible decisions will go to another industry. Creative destruction is necessary sometimes.
Soodanim
Gold Member
This thread is embarrassing, and for once the simps horny for AI pictures are not the embarrassing part.
It's the ones who find a reason to dismiss what she's saying even if they agree with her.
It's the ones who think that anyone who criticises the pitfalls of capitalism in its current form want the entire system to be scrapped and/or are unable to acknowledge the benefits.
It's the ones who find a reason to dismiss what she's saying even if they agree with her.
It's the ones who think that anyone who criticises the pitfalls of capitalism in its current form want the entire system to be scrapped and/or are unable to acknowledge the benefits.
tmlDan
Member
Don't worry, I don't think you are lol
I do agree with you that the profit motive exists, but the current state of capitalism is not run how the core of capitalism should. There is too much reliance on perceived value and no actual capital growth, Tesla is a great example of this, they sell a miniscule amount of vehicles compared to Toyota but their share value is insanely high. Companies like MS, also, aren't even close to the highest earning in terms of revenue and profit margins but somehow they're valuated as the biggest? That's insane to me. I put more blame on humans and their need to be wealthy than the system its built on, that's all I'm saying. I believe without the stock market capitalism would be in a much better state, I'm no expert mind you so if I come off as uninformed I apologize.
I'm not sure how we fix it in a free market, any global or national policies reining in these flaws would eliminate the idea of a free market. Either way, it's a complex issue but I don't like blanket statements blaming it entirely on one thing (What Alanah does).
Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
This was a good chat
The Wheel of Fortune
Member
I agree, as shown by me making time to play Genshin every single fucking day even though I’m busy as hell.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
That's exactly my thought. Ofc this isn't easy or cheap, but theoretically, it should be possible to start a private company (that's not publicly traded) producing it's own traditional, physical media based console - sold for a profit, of course. It can be designed to have no online and limited technical capabilities to keep games simple and clean. This company would make money from hardware sales, royalties, merch and so on only. It wouldn't be attractive to investors, obviously, but I can still see it grow slowly and organically. There is a global audience for something like this, the market is big enough to support such a niche machine. I'd also bet gen z would be all over it.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
But then you’re in Florida, the cesspool of America.
midnightAI
Member
Meh, some things are right and some things are wrong, some things are obvious (in my opinion of course)
(And some of this has been going on since game development began and is pretty normal)
(And some of this has been going on since game development began and is pretty normal)
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VitoNotVito
Member
All this outcry - not just from her - can be summarised by a single statement: buy your games if you want the studio to survive. Nobody will kill the goose laying the golden eggs! It is really that simple.
brock sexy lesnar
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Hawking Radiation
Member
Just give me a good AAA live service game and you can have all my money. Zombie apocalypse survival multiplayer game like Days Gone but with The Division 2 elements.
Hudo
Member
That's why I clicked on this thread.
Randall365
Member
I don’t share her pessimism. There’s never been a better time to be a gamer. We were paying £300 for consoles in 1997 with the top games costing £50 - now we are paying £400 for consoles and the top games cost £70, over 25 years later - and the quality is about ten times better.
In addition, at present, you have a whole generation of gamers who love good single player games, who will have time and money as they approach their 60s, 70s and 80s. Nobody those ages play games consistently these days, so the market will likely increase.
It was always a bit shit being a ‘creator’ - Ron Gilbert always says he never saw a dime from Monkey Island until the latest one - and those games must have made a fortune in the nineties. We just hear about it on social media now.
In addition, at present, you have a whole generation of gamers who love good single player games, who will have time and money as they approach their 60s, 70s and 80s. Nobody those ages play games consistently these days, so the market will likely increase.
It was always a bit shit being a ‘creator’ - Ron Gilbert always says he never saw a dime from Monkey Island until the latest one - and those games must have made a fortune in the nineties. We just hear about it on social media now.
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Sintoid
Member
Accurate cost/revenue control among studios and publishers
Fewer games published but with better audience targeting
Better Quality Assurance of final product
Less discounts
Death of Gamepass
You pay the right price for a good game
That's my idea of the next few years of PC/Console gaming
Fewer games published but with better audience targeting
Better Quality Assurance of final product
Less discounts
Death of Gamepass
You pay the right price for a good game
That's my idea of the next few years of PC/Console gaming
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
She's absolutely right.
There isn't just one thing to blame there's a lot. Every studio was just doing what they thought could work for them in this clearly fucked up industry and its caused a number of issues.
Compile that with a lot of snowflakes that want to work from home and throw a sissy fit everything their feelings get mildly hurt and you have a workplace mine field.
The only good thing for me personally is I've refund my love for Japanese games and tinkering with my car and other external hobbies like going to gigs etc.
When every big triple A game is basically a rehash of assassin's creed I don't need to buy them...and it seems many others don't either.
There isn't just one thing to blame there's a lot. Every studio was just doing what they thought could work for them in this clearly fucked up industry and its caused a number of issues.
Compile that with a lot of snowflakes that want to work from home and throw a sissy fit everything their feelings get mildly hurt and you have a workplace mine field.
The only good thing for me personally is I've refund my love for Japanese games and tinkering with my car and other external hobbies like going to gigs etc.
When every big triple A game is basically a rehash of assassin's creed I don't need to buy them...and it seems many others don't either.
Senua
Member
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
If the industry gets worse, and morale gets lower and lower which leads to poor quality games with inflated prices it just means I'll be saving a lot of money.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Talking about the "pitfalls of capitalism" in relation to a thing (videogames) that is exclusively a product of capitalism will never fail to make me chuckle!
Icymanipulator
Member
Well good thing backlogs exist, there are literally dozens of games I want to play but have never gotten around to. If new games don’t come out all the time, I’ll be just fine. Also Monster Hunter Wilds in 2025. Nothing else will matter anyway.
vaibhavpisal
Member
LMAO what type of clown show has the industry become.
Hopefully this is bullshit.
CuteFaceJay
Member
When the money gets devalued so much that the only option eventually becomes Games as service.
Soodanim
Gold Member
Fess
Member
Do it.
Go for a case with design you can accept to have in the living room, or hide it, and go for quiet parts, and setup Steam to launch in big screen mode directly when you power it on. Get a wireless keyboard with a touch pad and have it tucked away out of sight as plan B if you need mouse and keyboard to login or whatever.
I did this in March and it feels very much like having a console, just a whole lot better.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
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Laptop1991
Member
They can try and keep me engaged to spend money all they want with their GAAS games, they won't get it!, i only buy and play good SP games, i don't buy live service cash cow games with inferior gameplay and grind, i never have and never will, what a waste of money and my time. making more gaas games won't work.
Fabieter
Member
We have quite a few of good games bombing all the fucking time so no its not that easy sadly. One way of fixing it is to blame the consumer sadly. If a game looks interesting to you and have the money to support it do it day one or expect no sequel anytime soon if you don't. It's that easy.
dDoc
Member
There are too many AAA games. There was huge overinvestment in the market and this is the unfortunate correction.
It just is what it is. The market is very big, but not as big as the geniuses holding the purse strings thought. The only real victims will be the developers who lose their jobs, but even there the overinvestment has given thousands of young developers at least a CHANCE in the industry they never would've had otherwise.
It just is what it is. The market is very big, but not as big as the geniuses holding the purse strings thought. The only real victims will be the developers who lose their jobs, but even there the overinvestment has given thousands of young developers at least a CHANCE in the industry they never would've had otherwise.
crackajack
Member
Some might not like were the industry is heading, but money talks. It's a hardly a perfect system, but the best we have.
As a customer you can only buy the games you like and hope that there will be more similar ones coming, evolve in a direction you like.
Devs/publishers will need to figure out what still sells and if chasing trends is wise when everyone else does that too. Maybe better aim for some niche no else does. But that's their problem.
As a customer you can only buy the games you like and hope that there will be more similar ones coming, evolve in a direction you like.
Devs/publishers will need to figure out what still sells and if chasing trends is wise when everyone else does that too. Maybe better aim for some niche no else does. But that's their problem.
The SOLUTION? We are all the beneficiaries of incredibly diverse and cheap entertainment. That's not a problem in need of a solution. Fucking obviously.
Cyborg
Member
Maybe you should return the favor then and once in a while write something intelligent.
fallingdove
Member
Nothing you said was wild — just tone deaf and completely illogical for most gamers.
—>Buy into a continuous lifelong rental subscription at a low cost per month now, a much higher cost per month later for 1, maybe 2 games a year you are interested in.
This makes absolutely no sense, but you and your green rat friends didn't want to hear about it. You hand waved arguments because “best deal in gaming”.
Heaven Angel
Member
As a customer the only thing we can do is STOP BUYING LIVE SERVICE GAMES AND IT'S MONETIZATION.
SUPPORT SINGLE PLAYER GAMES.
Things will change.
SUPPORT SINGLE PLAYER GAMES.
Things will change.
Wildebeest
Member
A lot of us grew up in times when there was no social media, so we don't really get how for many the games are not the main thing any more.
Varteras
Member
To be fair, it is a highly entertaining cesspool.
Varteras
Member
Lucifers Beard
Member
Live service games can stick around, I'm not going to be buying them since most of them are utter shite and have no respect for my time. That's OK though, I have so much to play anyway and I'm fine with not spending more money on games.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
You described forspoken. And it closed down the studio lol. Gameplay king game with no gaas. Not even sbi included.
people want gaas crap games. Gamers are broken.
I hope Stellar blade sells great. It deserves all of it. It’s the best game I played in a long time
Dr.Morris79
Member
The video.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
I disagree about the point regarding publishers focusing on more live service games. Sony have recently halved their planned number of live service games, or we have Sega who killed Hyenas before it was finished.
I don't agree that shutting talented development studios who make great games is a new trend. It's been happening for decades. See Westwood, Cavedog, Bullfrog etc etc.
I point about indy devs isn't more complex. It's a lot easier now to make a video game, but most start ups still need publisher funding. However, because we're being flooded with video games like never before, publishers need to be selective on which projects get their funding.
I don't agree that shutting talented development studios who make great games is a new trend. It's been happening for decades. See Westwood, Cavedog, Bullfrog etc etc.
I point about indy devs isn't more complex. It's a lot easier now to make a video game, but most start ups still need publisher funding. However, because we're being flooded with video games like never before, publishers need to be selective on which projects get their funding.
CuteFaceJay
Member
Anyone with a rack that good doesn't working in this industry that much is fact!