MyEpitomeCliché
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Just picked this up at K-Mart for a fiver and some change. Looking forward to it.
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Alice: Madness Returns |OT|
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StevePharma
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ShockingAlberto said:
For the next-gen, que up another spreadsheet of 30 something Antonio Banderas/Fabio style male protagonists....
Got the trophy today for floating 7 minutes onto a vent. I loaded up chapter 4, got Alice on a vent and enjoyed the scenery for 7 minutes, so relaxing....
SpiderJerusalem
Banned
I just finished it. I loved it, the whole thing. Best surprise in a while.
CadetMahoney
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Emonga said:
for a moment I thought the syringe said "Kinect me" -_-
drugs are bad mmmkay.
Totobeni said:
I'd buy that game. McGee and his artists nail an unnerving atmosphere without almost even trying just in their depiction of Victorian London. I spent a bit of time going into that first-person mode and just staring at all the faces of the various "humans." They're no less creepy and off-putting than anything found in Wonderland itself, if not even more, which is clearly purposeful and very effective.
Nemesis556 said:
The hair is probably the best I've ever seen in a game. The dress, not so much. Looks weird the way it bunches up.
Those fucking oysters crack me up in this game
Emonga said:
I am against injecting shit on principle but I would so inject shit if it let me go to Wonderland.
JohngPR said:Has anyone else ordered the art book directly from the Alice store, and if so has it shipped?
They had said that they would ship on the 24th and my order still says "Pending Fulfillment".
Well..it's available on stock at Amazon.com now, can't you cancel it from Alice Store and get one from Amazon.com?
I finished Alice: Madness Returns earlier last week. The game is this year's Darksiders for me, just a very well made game that does a lot right, and sort of came out of nowhere.
I only have a few complaints with Alice. One of which, is the voice acting. While the performances weren't bad by any means, all the characters' performances just came across as sort of forgettable.
And one or two of the levels overstayed their welcome by a little. Also, the two sections in chapter 5 where you play as the rolling head probably should have been left out.
Other than that, I couldn't recommend the game more to people who are looking for something that's not just another shooter.
I only have a few complaints with Alice. One of which, is the voice acting. While the performances weren't bad by any means, all the characters' performances just came across as sort of forgettable.
And one or two of the levels overstayed their welcome by a little. Also, the two sections in chapter 5 where you play as the rolling head probably should have been left out.
Other than that, I couldn't recommend the game more to people who are looking for something that's not just another shooter.
Attackthebase
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Thanks for anyone who found that Amazon's deal. I purchased Alice for the PC. I kind of fixed my PC. I'm using the other graphic card (I have a dual-card build). I'm hoping this card will be able to play Alice well and with the pretty flairs.
Totobeni said:
My wife ordered it for me for Father's Day. I suppose I could have her cancel it and order it on Amazon...but I did kind of like that the Alice Store version she ordered comes signed by American Mcgee and Ken Wong.
I noticed that they have since stopped taking orders for the signed version of the art book so it'd be kind of cool to have a signed copy.
http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/search_1...adness+returns&viewItems=25&autoRedirect=true
$34.99 @ kmart this week. sorry if old, but its a great deal
$34.99 @ kmart this week. sorry if old, but its a great deal
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
JohngPR said:Has anyone else ordered the art book directly from the Alice store, and if so has it shipped?
They had said that they would ship on the 24th and my order still says "Pending Fulfillment".
The 24th date changed to the 28th the day after I ordered a signed copy of the art book. Hope it ships next week then, I want a signed copy of that art book.
Amir0x said:
Those goddamn oysters (nude-looking oysters with garterbelts!) disturbed me more than anything else in the game so far :lol
Vampire On Titus
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Saw a new issue of Game Informer at a friends house, I checked it out to see if they had reviewed "Madness Returns", they had, and it was embarrassing to read.
It takes the reviewer forever to get to anything relevant, he only starts talking about jumping controls in the 6th (of 8) paragraphs. He calls the combat simple, because it doesn't have air combos like Devil May Cry or God of War.
Then, after he finally gets around to assessing jumping controls, you know, in a review for a platformer. He says the game gets too hard at the end because you have to "milk every bit of distance out of the glide" and the "triple jump".
There's actually a quadruple jump, at this point I can't tell if he's failing to properly describe the move-set or if he actually failed to ever use his last jump, throughout the entirety of the game. Either way it doesn't end up looking very good for him, either he can't count to four or he wrote that review with a great fundamental misunderstanding of the mechanics at play.
I wonder if he would've been less frustrated, and would've wrote a more positive review had he known. I also wonder how many other reviewers made the same mistake.
Everyone buy Alice and tell your friends, if they like having fun, they should buy it too!
It takes the reviewer forever to get to anything relevant, he only starts talking about jumping controls in the 6th (of 8) paragraphs. He calls the combat simple, because it doesn't have air combos like Devil May Cry or God of War.
Then, after he finally gets around to assessing jumping controls, you know, in a review for a platformer. He says the game gets too hard at the end because you have to "milk every bit of distance out of the glide" and the "triple jump".
There's actually a quadruple jump, at this point I can't tell if he's failing to properly describe the move-set or if he actually failed to ever use his last jump, throughout the entirety of the game. Either way it doesn't end up looking very good for him, either he can't count to four or he wrote that review with a great fundamental misunderstanding of the mechanics at play.
I wonder if he would've been less frustrated, and would've wrote a more positive review had he known. I also wonder how many other reviewers made the same mistake.
Everyone buy Alice and tell your friends, if they like having fun, they should buy it too!
BMX Bandit
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Yeh. Should ring up as 35$ instore as well.painey said:
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Reviewers really seem to be out of touch on this game (and, arguably, on Duke Nukem Forever too).
Duke Nuke Forever is actually a pretty bad game. Any critic who says something to the effect of "if you enjoy this game you are a piece of shit," as some have, is a total asshole, but that is just not a good game.
Alice, on the other hand, is a legitimately strong title getting shafted for strange reasons inconsistent with the way other games are appraised, but hey.
Alice, on the other hand, is a legitimately strong title getting shafted for strange reasons inconsistent with the way other games are appraised, but hey.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Zeliard said:
It's not a great game by any means, but it's nowhere near 3/10 levels of bad. It's closer to something like 6/10 IMO.
jim-jam bongs
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Combichristoffersen said:
Game reviewer 6/10 or actual 6/10? Because game reviewer 6/10 is actual 3/10
Combichristoffersen said:
If we're using the full scale I honestly think it is closer to 3/10. The game does not do a single thing well, and I was a big Duke3D fan. I even jumped into Duke Nukem Forever after it had been trashed to hell and back, thinking, "well I'm sure I'll find something of worth here." Nope. The humor is awful, level design is several steps back, they picked up the dogshit FPS trends like regen health and 2-weapon limits, and it generally just feels half-baked in every respect.
Judging it given its crazy development, I wouldn't be nearly as harsh given what it went through, but as a $50/$60 product it is just poor.
The problem with the Duke Forever reviews isn't the low scores, it's the content, specifically the ones who feel the need to disparage anyone who does enjoy the game. That's far more obnoxious than anything found in the game itself.
MrMephistoX
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Is this just a sale on Amazon or is the $40 drop permanent? I'm worse than my shoe fetishist wife with game sales!
sixteen-bit
Member
Tempted by the price.
Vampire On Titus
Member
All the price drops really make me feel like this game must not be selling well . Wasn't the first one a hit? I really hope that this can be a slow burn success, through word of mouth.
. Wasn't the first one a hit? I really hope that this can be a slow burn success, through word of mouth.EchosMyron1 said:All the price drops really make me feel like this game must not be selling well
It probably isn't selling well. It's inherently niche and it's gotten raked over the coals by game reviewers. The metacritic for the 360 version, which has the most reviews, didn't even hit 70.
This is a game that will have to live by whatever positive word-of-mouth it can garner on places like GAF and elsewhere, as well as various sales. It's unfortunate but it's just the reality of it.
FrenchMovieTheme
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slit said:
i'm not even sure how someone can hate this game. well, i suppose if you absolutely hate platforming games you might. if you can tolerate them at all then i can't see any hate for this game
Nocturnowl
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All the praise around here is making me consider this, that and the whole 3D platforming thing which I don't see enough of nowadays. But my accursed cheapskate side is telling me to wait for a price drop.
MrMephistoX
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Bought because of the sale but I hope the price drop boosts sales overall. It might be a nice signal to devs that certain games shouldn't have a $60 tag out of the gate. $50 was fine for triple and double A alike last gen. Now if Child of Eden would just take the hint...EchosMyron1 said:All the price drops really make me feel like this game must not be selling well
jim-jam bongs
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Yeah I don't think you can assume anything from price drops considering that most games drop by $10 - 20 within a fortnight of release. Hell most games I buy on Steam are on sale from the day of release, it doesn't mean much.
Nocturnowl said:
There has been one.
Alice is $29.99 on Amazon right now:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004CD9X2W/?tag=neogaf0e-20
PC version
Console versions are $10 more, as they almost always are at release anyway.
jim-jam bongs
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Nocturnowl
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I should have mentioned that i'm in Europe here, no doubt it will go down in a week or two anyway.Zeliard said:
ShockingAlberto
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So while I think the reviews were definitely off, I think there are a few legitimate complaints about the game.
Like, I feel the lock-on system is crazy. It should center the camera on enemy and then make them the focal point, so I'm circle-strafing around them. This would make general crowd control so much easier. I find sometimes that I died because I bothered to target an enemy and couldn't get the camera to show me everything else.
I also think the game kind of needs to take it easy on the off-screen AI. Enemies will occasionally just leap from ten feet away with an attack. Yeah, it's part of the difficulty, but it's contradictory with the way the battle system works a lot of the times. It's even possible to get stun-locked when there are enough enemies.
Like, I feel the lock-on system is crazy. It should center the camera on enemy and then make them the focal point, so I'm circle-strafing around them. This would make general crowd control so much easier. I find sometimes that I died because I bothered to target an enemy and couldn't get the camera to show me everything else.
I also think the game kind of needs to take it easy on the off-screen AI. Enemies will occasionally just leap from ten feet away with an attack. Yeah, it's part of the difficulty, but it's contradictory with the way the battle system works a lot of the times. It's even possible to get stun-locked when there are enough enemies.
I've seen a lot of praise for chapter 5... but I really, really disliked it.
All around unappealing to me, at any rate, and I'm glad to be done with it. The first unfun time I've had with the game so far. :\
The 'above ground' parts with the dull colors were really unappealing visually, and the 'under ground' parts with the wood and dark areas were I guess a little more interesting but still fairly boring after a while.
Knux-Future
Banned
Chapter 5 lives off of it's atmosphere alone.
The gameplay starts to get kinda stale by the end of it.
The gameplay starts to get kinda stale by the end of it.