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Alice: Madness Returns |OT|
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Square Triangle
Member
So I paused the download of BG&E HD and then Alice starts up. Wtf.
For those who remember or don't I had an ATI 5850 with a 8600GT for physx processing. I wanted better FPS's in games that used physx, so I put my old 8800GTX in for physx only. In Alice I see no improvements. If I use the gun my FPS drops to the 20's on medium physx with everything on high at 1920x1200.
Yet if I go to other games such as Batman AA which I could only run the game on medium physx and crank it to high and max everything out I get 60 FPS at 1920x1200 which never happened before.
In short unless there is a work around for the gun what a horrible implementation of physx on Alice.
Yet if I go to other games such as Batman AA which I could only run the game on medium physx and crank it to high and max everything out I get 60 FPS at 1920x1200 which never happened before.
In short unless there is a work around for the gun what a horrible implementation of physx on Alice.
JRW
Member
hlhbk said:
Ive heard other people complain that Alice isnt using dedicated physx properly, I have a GTX 260 in another PC here I could try running it as the dedicated physx card along with my GTX 480 to see if it helps PhysX performance, I played from start to finish with PhysX on High (GTX 480 doing everything + physx) and I did see it drop into the 25 fps range occasionally (heavy battles + the pepper grinder seem to be worst offenders) but otherwise usually maintained 60fps (1920x1080 / Vsync & Anti aliasing enabled / i7 920 @ 3.6ghz).
I'll most likely give it a try tomorrow.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Grisby said:
Dammit, I'm still waiting for my signed artbook to ship :< But according to the response I got from the customer support at the Alice 2 store yesterday, my order should be shipping within 24 hours. Hm..
Oh, I did watch Tim Burton's movie btw and while there were a few nicely shot scenes I have to agree with most people calling it plain, or soulless. Maybe thats a harsh word but the whole thing felt devoid of a pulse.
The CG also had a soft look to it, which at times made it look a little out of place. That was a classic example where the story was complimenting the CG, not the other way around.
The CG also had a soft look to it, which at times made it look a little out of place. That was a classic example where the story was complimenting the CG, not the other way around.
Rahxephon91
Banned
Did anyone get this strange bug of "someone" appearing during the sequences where you control the doll head?
Strangest bug I've encountered. Well the only one really.
Strangest bug I've encountered. Well the only one really.
Attackthebase
Member
Donthizz# said:
The art director should be given a medal. I ADORE the art direction in Alice.
semiconscious
Member
finished. this game's a gem - not quite psychonaut-level demented, but more than demented enough. super-cool heroine, well told story, gorgeous, hallucinatory landscapes, some mind-bogglingly memorable (beginning of chapter 4) set pieces, & tons of collectables that're actually worth collecting...
preferred the first, third (my favorite), & 5th chapters, myself. please do buy & enjoy this excellent, beautiful game...
preferred the first, third (my favorite), & 5th chapters, myself. please do buy & enjoy this excellent, beautiful game...
Square Triangle
Member
Just finished Chapter 2.
That whole end scene was freaky as fuck. All of the dead peoplefish and then being eaten.
Amir0x said:
Weak platforming and not good use of 3D space according to this crazy dude
Metro UK said:
lolz
It's sad that these professional reviwers now gave all the developers and publishers a warning saying" if you make a 3D platformer we will shit all over it, don't do it" , instead of fighting the good fight and encourage these kind of games that bring the old magic and soul of games.
Wait for David Cage's Alice made by Ninja Theory (QTE shooter ) it will automatically get 9000% at Metacritic and will be game of the forever for these joke reviewers.
InVinoVeritas
Member
This started happening to me too. I checked gamefaqs (yeah, I know...) and it's happening to other people too. I have an old 60GB PS3 and was wondering if that is the problem. The first time it happened, I deleted the game data, and it worked immediately after that. The second time it still wouldn't load up until the 5th or 6th try. I'm not sure if I should try to exchange it for another copy or if it's not a problem with the disc...Square Triangle said:
For the sake of devil's advocacy, Alice doesn't have particularly adventurous or interesting level design (not to be confused with environment design), nor does it make good use of 3D space. It's fair to call it overextended, too, although personally I think the languorous pacing is a big part of the experience.
Calling the mechanics bad is bonkers, though. The only problem is that you don't really need to use them to their fullest outside of Chapter 5.
Calling the mechanics bad is bonkers, though. The only problem is that you don't really need to use them to their fullest outside of Chapter 5.
canadian crowe
Member
Great game so far. My only comment is that the Alice in Wonderland theme was more of a detriment than an asset.
it seems like most of the chapters have little to do with wonderland in the first place- underwater and far east to be exact.
bloodforge
Member
Grabbed this for $30 for PC today. I'm enjoying much more than I thought I would.
Trent Strong
Banned
semiconscious said:
The beginning of chapter 4 is fucking incredible looking.
jim-jam bongs
Member
Yeah I didn't need drugs to enjoy that. Just to enhance it.Trent Strong said:
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
My t-shirt and signed art book shipped today, can't wait for delicious Alice art unf unf unf
darkjedi187
Member
this wasn't on my radar but for $30 after $5 off coupon. I just might have to pick this up.
Just picked it up, looking forward to playing it. I wanted to vent about the box a little though. I know it's money saving, but I feel like giving you a plain white interior with an awful looking booklet is really uncool. It feels cheap. And certainly with a game as nice artistically as this it's a shame. It's a little thing, and not worth getting irritated about, but it's unfortunate.
Square Triangle
Member
InVinoVeritas said:
not sure if you read my second post on this but I had BG&E HD downloading in the background and I paused the download and the game worked fine. idgi.
This game make a very good first impression. Moving around town the performance was really rough, I was pretty concerned, but once in the game it's fine. It looks nice too.
It doesn't seem that adventurous, maybe that was what the press was disappointed by, but it feels great, and so far it's a lot of fun.
It doesn't seem that adventurous, maybe that was what the press was disappointed by, but it feels great, and so far it's a lot of fun.
semiconscious
Member
mucking around looking for missed memories, & am finding myself getting a huge urge to replay psychonauts 
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...InVinoVeritas
Member
Square Triangle said:
Oh I didn't notice your post, thanks I'll give that a shot. I read on another forum that people who had dynamic themes activated found that when they switched to a static theme, the game started up fine. Weird stuff...
Anticitizen One
Banned
Just got the Art book in the mail. It's amazing. I'm kinda sad that alot of the cool ideas couldn't make it in the game. There were originally more boss fights like with the dutchess cook, a giant jabba the hutt looking Mr.Toad, etc. and whatever happened to that fight with the giant steampunk snail that was used as the first piece of art to go along with the press release?
Vampire On Titus
Member
If that's the case, the press should be a lot more disappointed with many other titles, who are neither unique in game-play design or aesthetic.
Though, a game doesn't need to have unique game-play to be great or to get a great critical reception. So I really don't think that was a factor in why the reviews are as off base as they are.
It's a very well designed 3D platformer, a rarity these days. The fact that that's so is a shame, but I doubt critics knew what to make of it. That's why you get "would be hilarious if they weren't so sad" review quotes like the ones in this thread.
Alice does have interesting level design, combat scenarios mapped out across differing degrees of verticality, playing into the range and tactics you need to engage enemies. Hidden paths you need to seek out that often have interesting platform sequences, as well as collectibles. Alice's levels aren't just aesthetically pleasing, they're also fun to play.
As far as handling 3D space is concerned, how does it not use 3D space well? It uses 3D space well for all it's platforming sequences, many of which are outstanding. (especially in chapter 5)
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
JohngPR said:
Good to hear. Finally we'll both be able to
Amir0x said:
Enjoy what left of the game,it's most likely the team last console game, since they signed with Popcap to make iPhone games and stuff.
Anticitizen One said:
Alice 1 got criticized heavily because of the boss fights ( especially Jabberwocky and Queen fight) so I think that why they didn't want boss fights here.
Speaking of the Art book, there are many little sweet things, like They wanted to make more "events" in London, not only that but platforming level based on London ( Page 68 and 69 ) but I guess that didn't work with the story,also in Page 50 the first Alice 3d model was made by Epic Game China,it look really old 3D render like from 2005 or something, maybe McGee wanted to work with Epic China before he opened Spicy Horse.
it's ok iOS is garbage. And that pretty much ensures they'll be relegated to making fourth tier games for the rest of their lives.
Such a sad story
Eh like all games the story does nothing for me as it carries all the typical game storytelling problems. I hope it has a nice cutscene though. The cut out style they have is very attractive.
Such a sad story
Yurt said:
Eh like all games the story does nothing for me as it carries all the typical game storytelling problems. I hope it has a nice cutscene though. The cut out style they have is very attractive.
StuBurns said:
I really doubt that..
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/13/spicy-horse-receives-3m-in-funding-working-with-popcap/
The entire studio going for online games (browsers based ) and iOS casual games from now on.
jim-jam bongs
Member
StuBurns said:
<3 jellyfish dress, love the little "tail" which is the lure appendage of one of those deep sea fish with the scary teeth.