INC
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So you're saying all these reports are wrong then?
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So you're saying all these reports are wrong then?
Romulus
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-A group of 4 fighter pilots minds are all glitching out about the same exact event.
-Radars are also glitching out
-Sonar is glitching out(per the fire controlman)
-Other countries that have observed and chased objects with radar tracks too for decades, also wrong.
I watched the skeptical video you posted too. It really just focuses on the videos being meh, which is absolutely true. However far better videos will be meant with equal skepticism. Then the cgi card will be pulled immediately, count on it. Government conspiracy/hoax.
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INC
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I mean if ts a hoax, its a pretty meta one......so bravo! if so
Wheeljack539
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Assuming that this is not already the case the idea that they are "real now" is also a sign to people that the ability to make those things is actually feasable which would have a great deal of people trying to push the envelope on how to mimic such tech and pushing new ideas.
INC
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Well the CIA are in the business of disinformation
I'm on board for anything at this point
Wheeljack539
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Why we have trouble trusting what the powers that be say:
CIA Official Statement - This "_______"shit works. <<It really works!>>
CIA Official Statement - This "_______"shit doesn't work. <<It didn't work>>
Also CIA -
CIA Official Statement - This "_______"shit works. <<But it really doesn't. May our foes have fun wasting money.>>
CIA Official Statement - This "_______"shit doesn't work it all. <<Oh fuck it works, it works but we can't let anyone know and silence the mundane that try>>
noonjam
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POLITICO London Playbook: Bordering on farce — V.O.C.’d it up — Burger bunfight
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Romulus
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Yeah, at that point, it would need to be a coordinated effort between the CIA, MI6, KGB etc all in on it because of the scope of the phenomena. And it would need to be extremely old in origin, planning it from the 1940s.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
If Obama say they are real then they got to be right? Lol. It wouldn't surprise me if all this gradual disclosure by Obama and others is prepping us for next month. Here's hoping my guys.
INC
Member
If Obama say they are real then they got to be right? Lol. It wouldn't surprise me if all this gradual disclosure by Obama and others is prepping us for next month. Here's hoping my guys.
The fact he didn't stutter, shows how scripted it was
Romulus
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Translation
The radio chatter emphasizes on asking how many there are, and what their altitude is. The pilots count them, and I think the final count is 8. Then they say they are traveling at very fast speeds, and that their altitude is the same (as the aircraft).
They refer to them as objects.
The end is rather spooky, with one of the pilots saying: "why are they following us?" in a genuinely concerned tone.
The radio chatter emphasizes on asking how many there are, and what their altitude is. The pilots count them, and I think the final count is 8. Then they say they are traveling at very fast speeds, and that their altitude is the same (as the aircraft).
They refer to them as objects.
The end is rather spooky, with one of the pilots saying: "why are they following us?" in a genuinely concerned tone.
Shadowplay1979
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This was debunked ages ago as oil rigs which happen to be the same exact distance from eachother and placement as the same exact number of oil rigs in the same spot. it makes perfect sense when you see the oil rigs in the location and distance on a map. Also youll notice that these "lights chasing them" are all perfectly spaced and never change their spatial relationship to eahother as stable large objects would be in the distance.
general rule of thumb with this stuff , if you see a video and the fleet of UFOs are only moving perfectly horizontal ...theres usually easy explanations for it. Ive seen tons of the "ufos over fukashima" which when you stop and look realize its ships on the horizon of the sea.
Im glad the latest corbell video has something moving vertically but at the moment i see a thing slowly ( when you stabilize the camera its moving very slowly) downward and then splash into the ocean...it doesnt look like anything other then a test balloon/drone and no one in the video sounds suprised.
Wheres the video of these things ever shooting up at impossible angles that everyone in the corbell camp keeps mentioning....would have liked to see in that latest video something come back up out of the water and go straight up.
Maybe something in June? I dont see the military releasing offcial radar data because a lot of radar and tech capabilities are classified from foreign audiences.
Shadowplay1979
Gold Member
also for the love of all that is holy can people stop posting autoplay reddit videos
Romulus
Member
Do you have a link? I've seen a fair amount of debunking videos that were later debunked themselves. That is funny though that a group of military pilots mistaken the objects as chasing them and also got the altitude and speed completely wrong.
Also, just thinking about being in planes myself for years. I can't imagine thinking a row of stationary lights were chasing me. How do you even begin to fuck that up?
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Fighter pilots are mistaken about what they see (which has happened over and over) vs. we are wrong about the laws of physics.
INC
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Not just fighter pilots tho, these cases were investigated, so thats a lot of people getting it wrong
Humans are subject to error no doubt, andnim all for that, but to go from having pilots mis-identify to now going on world news and announcing yes there 100%
Big step isn't it? Considering they're what......oil rigs?.
This feeds more into its a false flag situation if true
Or the whole world military, have no idea how to use any of their equipment
I'm sure your reasons make more sense, the more fantastic situation is generally the most unlikely here, and its generally the simple explanation
But what if you're wrong? Out of interest, what would it take to convince you? Not calling you at all, just interested.
I'm always gonna lean into the ufo explanation, because I'm biased and I want that to be true, but i can be objective and rational about it, its all a pinch of salt with this shit, I mean I still struggle with the idea that policy was denial for 70 years, now all of sudden, hay we were wrong, they're actually real, trust us
I find that the most unexplainable thing at the moment
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Shadowplay1979
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How the hell do i stop the awful screeching spanish everytime i come to this page....freezing the video doesnt stop it, theres no buttons
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Eh if you believe historical accounts like the battle over that German city, that would’ve mean they knew before radio was invented.
Heck, we can spot planets potentially capable of harboring life and we’re still trapped on earth’s gravity well.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
The crash looks suspect: it’s all white chunks as if it was a solid piece of white plastic.
INC
Member
Exactly, or like white hot ceramic exploding
Again could be a drone, just a cool video tbh
INC
Member
For anyone interested in the ancient cataclysmic event, check out some of these JRE videos,neither Randall Carson
It also has Michael Shermer a full time skeptic
Theres a few more the subject too
#606, #872, I believe there's another one too
Interested subjects that could account for stories like the great flood in the bible
It also has Michael Shermer a full time skeptic
Theres a few more the subject too
#606, #872, I believe there's another one too
Interested subjects that could account for stories like the great flood in the bible
Bragr
Banned
Yeah but it takes hundreds maybe thousands of years to travel the galaxy, and who knows what sort of decision-making aliens would have or what they want.
Bragr
Banned
Didn't Hancock lose his mind recently? I heard the most absurd things from him the last year or two.
INC
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Hes back on the weed and DMT
Romulus
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But we are wrong about the laws of physics. Just recently we discovered that even modern times we have it wrong. Not sure how we can think we've got anything figured out.
MilkyJoe
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Was a bit pisssed up in my garden a few weeks ago and i looked up and saw a single, much larger and brighter than normal satellite fly past, then a few seconds later a cluster of 5 more bright white lights flew across the sky like this
. I went to get my missus and I said there, what do you make of that? She unsurprisingly wasn't interested, just watched it for a few seconds then went back indoors.
About 5 seconds later this happened
I was like for fuck sake
I had no idea what it was , all I thought was "this is so 2021"
. I went to get my missus and I said there, what do you make of that? She unsurprisingly wasn't interested, just watched it for a few seconds then went back indoors.
About 5 seconds later this happened
I was like for fuck sake
I had no idea what it was , all I thought was "this is so 2021"
infinitys_7th
Member
Are the radar waves that corroborate the pilots wrong too, or did those EM physics just decide the rest of physics was wrong?
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Was a bit pisssed up in my garden a few weeks ago and i looked up and saw a single, much larger and brighter than normal satellite fly past, then a few seconds later a cluster of 5 more bright white lights flew across the sky like this
. I went to get my missus and I said there, what do you make of that? She unsurprisingly wasn't interested, just watched it for a few seconds then went back indoors.
About 5 seconds later this happened
I was like for fuck sake
I had no idea what it was , all I thought was "this is so 2021"
Fucking Elon Musk.
People stan for that douche while he’s destroying the night sky.
MilkyJoe
Member
And nearly gave me a fucking hear attack
V4skunk
Banned
The problem is that drones don't accelerate to 14,000mph in 1 second.Thank you
They are lying. The Pentagon only ever confirms authenticity of videos. The videos are real. The devices are military drone prototypes. Thats why they mostly fly around at military bases and not in Paris or Los Angeles.
Turkey has shown that advanced drones are the future of warfare when Azerbaijan decimated Armenia with their new technology. You think DARPA isn't experimenting with drones?
‘Like horse-mounted cavalry against tanks’: Turkey has perfected new, deadly way to wage war, using militarized ‘drone swarms’
From Syria to Libya to Nagorno-Karabakh, this new method of military offense has been brutally effective. We are witnessing a revolution in the history of warfare, one that is causing panic, particularly in Europe.www.rt.com
UK wants new drones in wake of Azerbaijan military success
MoD wants to procure cheaper armed drones for UK as it studies lessons from recent conflict in Nagorno-Karabakhwww.theguardian.com
The russian air defense systems were completely useless against them.
Every country on this planet will start experiment with drones so its only logical that videos like that will pop up everywhere.
Romulus
Member
Yeah and that's just what we know. I highly doubt that's anywhere near their maxuim capability.
INC
Member
Theyre all radar glitches
Romulus
Member
Anything is possible.
noonjam
Member
Former senator Harry Reid wrote an article for the New York Times.
www.nytimes.com
Harry Reid: What We Believe About U.F.O.s (Published 2021)
We still don’t know what they are — but we may be close to finding out.
Harry Reid: What We Believe About U.F.O.s
We still don’t know what they are — but we may be close to finding out.
S
Shodan09
Unconfirmed Member
Not sure about Zodiac unfortunately. Has Lue ever commented on Bob Lazar?
I don't know anything about Zodiac, does anyone else?
Romulus
Member
no idea
Shadowplay1979
Gold Member
Yea, pilots see things, they make mistakes, just like the most professional sailors do even with complex instruments sailors can be confused by simple mirages. Doesnt mean its every example, but it does happen often. Remember the UFO in Peru or Chile dumping magic alien gas out of its ass that everyone into ufos touted as huge evidence because it was from a military pilot....but turned out to just be a drug smugglers plane dumping fuel. again look at the lights...REALLY look at them, they never change spatial relationship but as the camera moves down the line horizontally you'll see some lights change from 2 to 3 always in the same way as the angle changes.
http://web.archive.org/web/20130329164341/http://www.alcione.org/FAM/FLIR_CONCLUSION.html
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Shadowplay1979
Gold Member
man you know what would have been cool...a game set in the 50s, open world la noir style where you are a detective uncovering ufo mysteries xfiles style....but you only ever stay on the very edge of the mystery. That would be fun.
Romulus
Member
Big difference between top tier pilots and the Mexican air force I think. Most people didn't even know they had an air force. Lol
But it is crazy to imagine anyone in a plane would mistake stationary lights for UFOs. Its like, not only did they mistake everything they had obviously never been there before either.
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Shadowplay1979
Gold Member
Yea but you go into these videos not knowing anything about the pilots, what their current state of mind is, what they ate for breakfast. Everything matters in context..hell these could have been a bunch of guys fucking with eachother up there.....which is super common in non confrontational situations. Sometimes people just mistake things....or the mexican airforce just really sucks
Romulus
Member
Yeah that's why the most credible ones for me are with multiple pilots and/or other instrument data. Mexican dude could have been high too.
I listened to one priopr to that with just Graham and Randall and it was an amazing listen
Romulus
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INC
Member
As crazy as it sounds, that makes the most sense, if you add up all the accounts and history of the subject
I mean why not
I'm Ready for some fucked up new reality
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